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interesting suffrage posters, etc (Original Post) niyad Sep 2013 OP
Thanks for posting this theHandpuppet Sep 2013 #1
you are most welcome. if I recall, wyoming was the first state to give women the vote. now niyad Sep 2013 #8
this is a keeper. thanks. nt seabeyond Sep 2013 #2
you are welcome niyad Sep 2013 #9
Those women fighting for suffrage in England became terrorists Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #3
they were finally fed up with the treatment they were receiving. have you ever seen "shoulder to niyad Sep 2013 #10
Love these! DesertRat Sep 2013 #4
you are most welcome niyad Sep 2013 #11
force feeding hunger strikers riverwalker Sep 2013 #5
but, we are supposed to ask nicely! niyad Sep 2013 #12
These are great! whathehell Sep 2013 #6
you are welcome niyad Sep 2013 #13
wow. I'd love to see what ass would label these troublemakers harpies. bettyellen Sep 2013 #7
you know, if people really knew what harpies were, probably would not call women that, strictly niyad Sep 2013 #15
Danger! Women's suffrage would double the irresponsible vote! DefenseLawyer Sep 2013 #14
great goddess, I had forgotten that one--thanks niyad Sep 2013 #16
Pretty shocking, but I suppose they should get points for honesty DefenseLawyer Sep 2013 #19
a very accurate point niyad Sep 2013 #20
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Thank you Niyad Liberalynn Sep 2013 #22
you are most welcome niyad Sep 2013 #23

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
1. Thanks for posting this
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 12:44 AM
Sep 2013

So many interesting pics and stories I will have to explore it much more tomorrow. Wanted to make one comment here about a particular map shown there:
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/278660295666572223/

Notice how women's rights were so strongly supported in the western and plains states? Now most of those states are redder than a fire engine. My, how things change....

niyad

(113,315 posts)
8. you are most welcome. if I recall, wyoming was the first state to give women the vote. now
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:20 AM
Sep 2013

it has the darth cheney clan.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
3. Those women fighting for suffrage in England became terrorists
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 12:47 AM
Sep 2013

Bombing buildings, breaking windows...they were not taking any more delays!!

I saw some original documents in the British Library in London covering this topic and found it fascinating.

niyad

(113,315 posts)
10. they were finally fed up with the treatment they were receiving. have you ever seen "shoulder to
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:23 AM
Sep 2013

shoulder"?? pbs series on the suffrage movement in england. fascinating. still has not been released to dvd, which makes no sense to me at all. that, and "iron jawed angels" should be seen by everyone who even hopes to understand the nature of the fight for women's rights, as witness all those who are whining that the reason we don't get anywhere is because we don't ask nicely. makes me want to heave.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
5. force feeding hunger strikers
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 03:28 AM
Sep 2013

just like at Gitmo.




“Forcible feeding” of British suffragists, engaged in hunger strikes in British prisons, aroused great sympathy for the women's movement in both Britain and the United States.

niyad

(113,315 posts)
15. you know, if people really knew what harpies were, probably would not call women that, strictly
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:30 AM
Sep 2013

out of a decent sense of self-preservation:


Harpies stealing the food of King Phineus | Athenian red figure hydria C5th B.C. | J. Paul Getty Museum, Malibu
King Phineus & the Harpies, Athenian red-figure hydria
C5th B.C., The J. Paul Getty Museum, Malibu

THE HARPYIAI (or Harpies) were the spirits of sudden, sharp gusts of wind. They were known as the hounds of Zeus and were despatched by the god to snatch away (harpazô) people and things from the earth. Sudden, mysterious dissappearances were often attributed to the Harpyiai. The Harpies were once sent by Zeus to plague King Phineus of Thrake as punishment for revealing the secrets of the gods. Whenever a plate of food was set before him, the Harpies would swoop down and snatch it away, befouling any scraps left behind. When the Argonauts came to visit, the winged Boreades gave chase, and pursued the Harpies to the Strophades Islands, where the goddess Iris commanded them to turn back and leave the storm-spirits unharmed. The Harpies were depicted as winged women, sometimes with ugly faces, or with the lower bodies of birds.
PARENTS
[1.1] THAUMAS & ELEKTRA (Hesiod Theogony 265, Apollodorus 1.10, Hyginus Preface)
[1.2] THAUMAS & OZOMENE (Hyginus Fabulae 14)
[2.1] TYPHOEUS (Valerius Flaccus 4.425)
NAMES
[1.1] OKYPETE, AELLO (Hesiod Theogony 265, Apollodorus 1.10)
[1.2] PODARGE (Homer Iliad 16.148, Stesichorus Frag 178)
[1.3] OKYPETE-OKYTHOE-OKYPODE, AELLOPOS-NIKOTHOE (Apollodorus 1.121)
[1.4] OKYPETE, PODARKE-AELLOPOS, KELAINO (Hyginus Preface, Hyginus Fabulae 14)
OFFSPRING PODARGE
[1.1] XANTHOS, BALIOS (by Zephyros) (Homer Iliad 16.148, Quintus Smyrnaeus 3.743)
[2.1] PHLOGEUS, HARPAGOS (Stesichorus Frag 178)
[3.1] AREION (Quintus Smyrnaeus 4.569)
OFFSPRING AELLOPOS
[1.1] XANTHOS, PODARKES (by Boreas) (Nonnus Dionysiaca 37.155)
ENCYCLOPEDIA

HARPYIAE (Harpuiai), that is, "the swift robbers," are, in the Homeric poems, nothing but personified storm winds. (Od. xx. 66, 77.) Homer mentions only one by name, viz. Podarge, who was married to Zephyrus, and gave birth to the two horses of Achilles, Xanthus and Balius. (Il. xvi. 149, &c.) When a person suddenly disappeared from the earth, it was said that he had been carried off by the Harpies (Od. i. 241, xiv. 371); thus, they carried off the daughters of king Pandareus, and gave them as servants to the Erinnyes. (Od. xx. 78.) According to Hesiod (Theog. 267, &c.), the Harpies were the daughters of Thaumas by the Oceanid Electra, fair-locked and winged maidens, who surpassed winds and birds in the rapidity of their flight. Their names in Hesiod are Aëllo and Ocypete. (Comp. Apollod. i. 2. § 6.) But even as early as the time of Aeschylus (Eum. 50), they are described as ugly creatures with wings, and later writers carry their notions of the Harpies so far as to represent them as most disgusting monsters. They were sent by the gods as a punishment to harass the blind Phineus, and whenever a meal was placed before him, they darted down from the air and carried it off; later writers add, that they either devoured the food themselves, or that they dirtied it by dropping upon it some stinking substance, so as to render it unfit to be eaten. They are further described in these later accounts as birds with the heads of maidens, with long claws on their hands, and with faces pale with hunger. (Virg. Aen. iii. 216, &c.; Tzetz. ad Lycoph. 653; Ov. Met. vii.4, Fast. vi. 132; Hygin. Fab. 14.) The traditions about their parentage likewise differ in the different traditions, for some called them the daughters of Pontus (or Poseidon) and Terra (Serv. ad Aen. iii. 241), of Typhon (Val. Flacc iv. 428, 516), or even of Phineus. (Tzetz. ad Lycoph. 166, Chil. i. 220; Palaephat. 23. 3). Their number is either two, as in Hesiod and Apollodorus, or three; but their names are not the same in all writers, and, besides those already mentioned, we find Aëllopos, Nicothoë, Ocythoë, Ocypode, Celaeno, Acholoë. (Apollod. i. 9, 21; Serv. ad Aen. iii. 209; Hygin. Fab. Praef. p. 15, Fab. 14.) Their place of abode is either the islands called Strophades (Virg. Aen. iii. 210), a place at the entrance of Orcus (vi. 289), or a cave in Crete. (Apollon. Rhod. ii. 298.) The most celebrated story in which the Harpies play a part is that of Phineus, at whose residence the Argonauts arrived while he was plagued by the monsters. He promised to instruct them respecting the course they had to take, if they would deliver him from the Harpies. When the food for Phineus was laid out on a table, the Harpies immediately came, and were attacked by the Boreades, Zetes and Calais, who were among the Argonauts, and provided with wings. According to an ancient oracle, the Harpies were to perish by the hands of the Boreades, but the latter were to die if they could not overtake the Harpies. The latter fled, but one fell into the river Tigris, which was hence called Harpys, and the other reached the Echinades, and as she never returned, the islands were called Strophades. But being worn out with fatigue, she fell down simultaneously with her pursuer; and, as they promised no further to molest Phineus, the two Harpies were not deprived of their lives. (Apollod. i. 9. § 21.) According to others, the Boreades were on the point of killing the Harpies, when Iris or Hermes appeared, and commanded the conquerors to set them free, or both the Harpies as well as the Boreades died. (Schol. ad Apollon. Rhod. i. 286, 297; Tzetz. Chil. i. 217.) In the famous Harpy monument recently brought from Lycia to this country, the Harpies are represented in the act of carrying off the daughters of Pandareus.

Source: Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology.
http://www.theoi.com/Pontios/Harpyiai.html

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
19. Pretty shocking, but I suppose they should get points for honesty
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 02:32 PM
Sep 2013

"We don't want women to vote because... we don't want them to vote!" Much more honest than the current voter suppression efforts, which are done in the name of fighting the problem of "voter fraud" (which essentially doesn't exist), when in fact their real reason is just the same: "we don't want those people to vote!"

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