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lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
1. Everything else being equal women could expect a 15% decrease in their premiums.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:40 PM
Sep 2013

... and men expect a 15% increase due to the elimination of sex as a rating criteria.

That's one of the main reasons that people complaining about "ACA raised my insurance premiums!!!" posts should have context.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
2. If it's "insurance", then rates should be based on actuarial principles. That means women should
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 03:54 PM
Sep 2013

pay rates based on how much healthcare they use.

That's how insurance works.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
3. How many actuarial criteria are enough?
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 04:14 PM
Sep 2013

If diabetic poorly-educated female cancer survivors of child-bearing age pay a rate that reflects the costs experienced by their peers, they wouldn't be able to afford it. It becomes a system in which the only people who are insured are those who won't need it.

The whole point was reducing the number of uninsured. Limiting the number of rating criteria to two (smoking/nonsmoking and age) was an important step. I'd argue that there should be only one - age.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
4. The point is that it is utterly illogical to keep the for-profit part but abandon the actuarial part
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:56 PM
Sep 2013

Your very question begs its premise--that for profit insurance is the goal. We shouldn't mandate for-profit insurance in the law, then (bizarrely!) complain about how insurers charge more to those who use more.

We should cut for profit insurers out entirely.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
5. Don't really disagree with the last sentence.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 06:58 PM
Sep 2013

But insurers can consolidate "the actuarial part" to fewer criteria without abandoning it.

If you're 25, I think it's reasonable to pay a different rate of insurance than me at fifty-something, and I also think there are some good policy reasons to do so.

Is it reasonable to pay less because I'm a man? YMMV. I don't see many really compelling public policy reasons to keep that criteria.

... however, I don't see any good reasons to pretend that we're doing something other than what we are actually doing; Charging men extra to subsidize women's medical care.

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