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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 08:17 AM Sep 2013

'Massive fraud' at center of trial against BofA over U.S. mortgages

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/24/us-bankofamerica-hustle-idUSBRE98M11H20130924

(Reuters) - Bank of America Corp's Countrywide unit placed profits over quality in a "massive fraud" selling shoddy mortgages to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, a U.S. government lawyer said on Tuesday.

The claim came at the start of the first case by the government to go to trial against a major bank over defective mortgage practices leading up to the 2008 financial crisis.

Pierre Armand, a lawyer in the civil division of the U.S. Attorney's Office in Manhattan, said Countrywide made $165 million selling loans that it promised were investment quality to Fannie and Freddie.

"What documents and witnesses will show is that the promise of quality was largely a joke," Armand said.
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'Massive fraud' at center of trial against BofA over U.S. mortgages (Original Post) xchrom Sep 2013 OP
I know BofA if probably just biding their time with this trial knowing they will, as always, AllyCat Sep 2013 #1
except it was NOT Bank of America hfojvt Sep 2013 #3
I still can't believe they will suffer much from this, no matter who started the mess. AllyCat Sep 2013 #4
why should they? hfojvt Sep 2013 #5
Then I defer to "what goes around, comes around". AllyCat Sep 2013 #6
Of all the horrible companies out there - TBF Sep 2013 #2

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
1. I know BofA if probably just biding their time with this trial knowing they will, as always,
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 09:29 AM
Sep 2013

avoid conviction. But I do like to see this stuff come out so consumers can know they are terrible.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
3. except it was NOT Bank of America
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 12:34 PM
Sep 2013

it was Countrywide.

Bank of America purchased Countrywide as part of TARP.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303561504577495332947870736.html

"Countrywide saddled Bank of America with hundreds of thousands of delinquent borrowers, thrust it into the middle of a foreclosure-paperwork scandal and exposed the bank to countless lawsuits from mortgage-bond investors and insurers. The number of people handling poor-performing real-estate loans for Bank of America ballooned from 5,000 at the time of the Countrywide purchase to 50,000. Those people occupy at least 4.5 million square feet of office space around the country, the equivalent of 78 football fields. "

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
4. I still can't believe they will suffer much from this, no matter who started the mess.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:19 AM
Sep 2013

B of A is not a good guy. They won't see much more than a few fines. Certainly no jail time. They'll still make a mint.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
5. why should they?
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 01:15 PM
Sep 2013

Since they are not the ones who did it? They bought Countrywide in 2008 for $2.5 billion, and THAT boneheaded move has already cost them $40 billion.

The person or persons responsible for this fraud, which happened BEFORE 2008, walked away with $2.5 billion - a nice tidy little sum. Not $40 billion in losses and more trouble. Since they are the ones responsible, perhaps somebody should go after their $2.5 billion, or does selling a worthless company mean never having to say you are sorry?

Bank of America, for all their being one of those evil TBTF entities, has already paid quite a bit for the purchase of Countrywide. AND, I would point out, their purchase of Countrywide helped to stop the economic meltdown that was happening at the time. True, they thought they were getting a bargain - maybe a $5 billion company for a mere $2.5 billion, but they also knew there was some risk.

That's what I get from the article I linked. Of course, that article is from the Wall Street Journal, that bastion of populist working class journalism. So maybe somebody should pass the salt.

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
6. Then I defer to "what goes around, comes around".
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 09:10 AM
Sep 2013

BofA may be pure as the driven snow on this one, but they have done enough other things to hurt our economy and their clients that one has to wonder if they have made their own bed.

TBF

(32,060 posts)
2. Of all the horrible companies out there -
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:04 AM
Sep 2013

this is the one I would most like to see fail.

Totally taking advantage of folks who could least afford it - worst of the big banks imo.

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