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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 05:12 AM Sep 2013

360,000 Gun Deaths Since 9/11-From Outside It Looks Like America Is a Country Gripped by Civil War

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/us-death-toll-firearms-suggests-america-country-gripped-civil-war

Last week, Starbucks asked its American customers to please not bring their guns into the coffee shop. This is part of the company's concern about customer safety and follows a ban in the summer on smoking within 25 feet of a coffee shop entrance and an earlier ruling about scalding hot coffee. After the celebrated Liebeck v McDonald's case in 1994, involving a woman who suffered third-degree burns to her thighs, Starbucks complies with the Specialty Coffee Association of America's recommendation that drinks should be served at a maximum temperature of 82C.

Although it was brave of Howard Schultz, the company's chief executive, to go even this far in a country where people are better armed and only slightly less nervy than rebel fighters in Syria, we should note that dealing with the risks of scalding and secondary smoke came well before addressing the problem of people who go armed to buy a latte. There can be no weirder order of priorities on this planet.

That's America, we say, as news of the latest massacre breaks – last week it was the slaughter of 12 people by Aaron Alexis at Washington DC's navy yard – and move on. But what if we no longer thought of this as just a problem for America and, instead, viewed it as an international humanitarian crisis – a quasi civil war, if you like, that calls for outside intervention? As citizens of the world, perhaps we should demand an end to the unimaginable suffering of victims and their families – the maiming and killing of children – just as America does in every new civil conflict around the globe.

The annual toll from firearms in the US is running at 32,000 deaths and climbing, even though the general crime rate is on a downward path (it is 40% lower than in 1980). If this perennial slaughter doesn't qualify for intercession by the UN and all relevant NGOs, it is hard to know what does.
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360,000 Gun Deaths Since 9/11-From Outside It Looks Like America Is a Country Gripped by Civil War (Original Post) xchrom Sep 2013 OP
That would be a strange war... Decaffeinated Sep 2013 #1
maybe it is an internal conflict... Niceguy1 Sep 2013 #2
facts do not matter Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #3
It does seem contrived that they failed to mention 63% were suicides seveneyes Sep 2013 #5
Most anti-gun advocates resort to that kind of misrepresentation Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #6
kick xchrom Sep 2013 #4
 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
5. It does seem contrived that they failed to mention 63% were suicides
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 08:28 AM
Sep 2013

Honesty is always the best policy.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
6. Most anti-gun advocates resort to that kind of misrepresentation
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 08:49 AM
Sep 2013

And then get mad when you call them out on it.

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