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Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 08:20 AM Sep 2013

Hacker Busters: An idea for a start up.


Now that we know the NSA is spying on us, would it be a stretch to assume they're not the only ones? Doesn't the uncertainty call for a private service that can come to your house and check to see that no one has tapped into your line? They should be able to check from the main box to your house to see if there are any extra connections as well as determine how many people are accessing your wireless.

But the real prize would be if they could determine if someone at the main ISP is looking into your email. Maybe there could be some built in software that can get back to you each time someone opens your mail?
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Hacker Busters: An idea for a start up. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 OP
Really? Maybe in 1950 Android3.14 Sep 2013 #1
I have enough of an understanding to see opportunities. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #2
Opportunities? Perhaps for people who want to defraud others Android3.14 Sep 2013 #3
We're already sitting ducks or fish in a barrel. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #4
Whatever Android3.14 Sep 2013 #5
These features are already available a la carte. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #6
I'm sorry, but you are incorrect. Android3.14 Sep 2013 #7
I have every bit of confidence that someone will come up with Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #8
Most modern firewalls defeat any entry attempts to your computer. Dash87 Sep 2013 #9
Here's the thing... Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #10
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
1. Really? Maybe in 1950
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 08:41 AM
Sep 2013

You might want to think this whole thing over again. Your grasp of how modern communication works is...in need of an upgrade?

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
2. I have enough of an understanding to see opportunities.
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 09:17 AM
Sep 2013

For instance, my router tells me how many people have logged in through the guest setting. I know that Meta geeks has a program that can already identify the other wireless routers in the area. I know a Netgear I once had logged all the attempts that were made to get into the router. How much more can it take to tie in all the features so you can know just who is trying to pay you a visit?

As for email, there are features today that will send you a notification each time someone opens your sent email. I went to archive emails that were sent a year ago and accidentally triggered that feature and the person who wrote the letter received a notification.

Anything is possible.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
3. Opportunities? Perhaps for people who want to defraud others
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 11:53 AM
Sep 2013

Each of the functions you describe, a moderately seasoned hacker could overcome. A government-funded hacker/spook could write trojans that would log your every key stroke, and you would never know.
There is a criminal opportunity here, sort of like those IED detectors the crook was selling in Afghanistan, in which the scammer could claim they had the ability to detect government/corporate/private snooping but it would be joke as far as actual capabilities.
The ubiquitous 'they' can spy on your digital communications easily without leaving traces, especially when the 'they' is the same people who maintain the infrastructure upon which you are communicating.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
4. We're already sitting ducks or fish in a barrel.
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 12:34 PM
Sep 2013

Why would you object to allowing us to see who is doing the intrusion? Methinks doth protest too much.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
5. Whatever
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 02:22 PM
Sep 2013

The product you describe is unfeasible at this time. I object to it about as much as I object to a Star Trek transporter. Methinks doth knows shite.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
6. These features are already available a la carte.
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 04:40 PM
Sep 2013

We just need someone to put all the pieces together for us.

It's like caller I.D., but for our computers.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
7. I'm sorry, but you are incorrect.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 06:28 AM
Sep 2013

If you think software or hardware can detect government spying because "It's like Caller ID", then there is little use in continuing this conversation.
I would suggest you educate yourself on the basic structure of internet communications and architecture.
Good bye.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
9. Most modern firewalls defeat any entry attempts to your computer.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:24 AM
Sep 2013

Checking for wireless usage would be fairly pointless if you have a wireless password. Wireless signals are encrypted, so the common hacker wouldn't be able to grab your packets and make use out of them.

Physically tapping into your line (bugging) wouldn't happen unless if you're being investigated for some big crime. It's not like the FBI/NSA has time or the ability to bug even .05% of American households. Civilians would never do something like that, as they don't know how. Even if they did, without a purpose, it would be a waste of time and money (or, a "wombat&quot .

As for external software checking to see if your mailbox was opened, that wouldn't be possible. Your mailbox is only an interface that gets information from a company (like Google)'s server. You can't monitor Google's servers for access to your mail. That would in itself be a horrendous security hole. If you want a mailbox that monitors sign-in locations, though, try Google. Someone tried to hack my email from China.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
10. Here's the thing...
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 11:00 AM
Sep 2013

... when you live in a corrupt, small community where there has been known collusion between the leaders of the public and private sector the concern is that these federal government lapses only embolden the local boys.

I live in a Republican community where a "circle of friends" has protected secrets with the help of legal malpractice, public malfeasance and bullying by community leaders. So, it wouldn't be unfeasible to expect them to infiltrate the only cable company in the area. Not such a huge leap when one of the main architects of that corruption represents the company.

So, maybe there is an area that needs attention. As for passwords on wireless routers, there is a backdoor to every router, which is presumably null once you set your own personal password. But how do we really know there is a second way in, built by the company?

All these unknowns. I don't think I have an issue with the federal agencies. I'm concerned with what the local talent might come up with. Stop and ask yourself how could all the fail safes be undermined by corrupt Republican-owned private corporations, and you will get a clear picture of the problem.

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