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senseandsensibility

(17,090 posts)
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:49 PM Mar 2012

Yes. We. Are. Better. Than. That.

Breitbart was a propagandist and a flamethrower who definitely hurt people. I have no sympathy with him. However, he was not Hitler. And even if he was, should we wish for his death?

We are progressives. Many of us don't even believe in the death penalty for heinous, violent criminals.

Yes, we are better than Breitbart and better than "conservatives." Let's start acting like it.

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Yes. We. Are. Better. Than. That. (Original Post) senseandsensibility Mar 2012 OP
Better Than a Lying Sack of Shit, Yes Indeed we can do it Mar 2012 #1
yes, we are better than that. unblock Mar 2012 #2
I didn't kill him in fact I didn't even wish someone else would tularetom Mar 2012 #3
+1 n/t zappaman Mar 2012 #4
Well, your response is reasonable so there's no need to apologize. senseandsensibility Mar 2012 #6
Point to a poster "turning cartwheels" Stinky The Clown Mar 2012 #17
Fuck Andrew Breitbart. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #5
Never called him "Hitler." I'll settle for "Goebbels". n/t markpkessinger Mar 2012 #7
K&R You're Right! His family have my condolences... DianaForRussFeingold Mar 2012 #8
Uh. No. We. Are. Not. UTUSN Mar 2012 #9
You're "better" than me, but I think my values have more long-term survival value saras Mar 2012 #10
I'm not asking you or anyone else on this board to show compassion for Bretibart. senseandsensibility Mar 2012 #15
Wishing for his death- digonswine Mar 2012 #11
Agreed. senseandsensibility Mar 2012 #16
No, he has to be remembered in the same fashion he eulogized Ted Kennedy. rustydog Mar 2012 #12
Hatred and vile in a person doesn't come in a vaccuum me b zola Mar 2012 #13
Fuck better - I want blood Taverner Mar 2012 #14
I never actually wished he was dead Downtown Hound Mar 2012 #18
I'm not! pokerfan Mar 2012 #19

unblock

(52,277 posts)
2. yes, we are better than that.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:57 PM
Mar 2012

but for breitbart, i'm willing to make an exception.

actually, much of an exception as i take no glee in his death, nor do i lack sympathy for his family.

i do, however, want to make sure he is remembered properly.

was he hitler? of course not.
but goebbels? i'm not so sure.
he propagandized lie after lie to the detriment of hard-working and decent people and institutions.

let's just hope against hope that they decide to honor him by not replacing him.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. I didn't kill him in fact I didn't even wish someone else would
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:59 PM
Mar 2012

To tell you the truth the only time I even thought about him was when I saw him on TV.

Nevertheless he was a vile and repulsive human being who deliberately harmed innocent people and appeared to take joy in doing so. All you have to do is read his tweets at the time of Sen. Kennedy's death to understand what he was.

So while I'm not turning cartwheels because he croaked, I'd have to say that the world is definitely a better place with him no longer in it. And I apologize to nobody for that opinion.

senseandsensibility

(17,090 posts)
6. Well, your response is reasonable so there's no need to apologize.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:02 PM
Mar 2012

However, some posters are "turning cartwheels."

Stinky The Clown

(67,816 posts)
17. Point to a poster "turning cartwheels"
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:44 PM
Mar 2012

Many are glad he's gone. He's gone because he's dead.

No one wished for his death. But no one should have to reticent to say what they feel, either.

The last time I thought about him was that rant at OWS.

The next time I thought of him was today, when I read of his death. I am glad he's gone. He's gone because he's dead. So be it.

The request in the title of this post wasn't rhetorical.

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)
5. Fuck Andrew Breitbart.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:00 PM
Mar 2012

I'll be happy like I was happy when Bin Laden kicked the bucket. And that only makes me 1/10000th as bad as him.

UTUSN

(70,720 posts)
9. Uh. No. We. Are. Not.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:09 PM
Mar 2012

We are (all) merely human, a MIX of the whole spectrum of good-to -evil /monster.


Plus, over the past decade whenever I've been/seen the most vicious flaming here at a discussion (OPINION) board, OVER OPINIONS, I have often wondered where all the kind threads pleading for civility are.


(Reposting my post from this other thread: )

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002370538

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
10. You're "better" than me, but I think my values have more long-term survival value
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:16 PM
Mar 2012

So he's not Hitler. He could have gassed THREE million Jews and he STILL wouldn't be Hitler. Hell, he could have gassed FIFTY million Jews and a billion Chinese and he STILL wouldn't be Hitler. So what? Is someone asserting that Hitler has returned from the dead?

He's responsible for enough deaths that I would have been willing to set my own beliefs aside and let the country execute him if they wished, whereas I wouldn't for someone who merely loses their temper and kills someone.

After I get through expending my compassion on all the people who are NOT harming others for a living, and all the cats, dogs, raccoons, bears, birds, rats, voles, amphibians, frogs, snakes, lizards, insects, lichens, fungi, bacteria, and other creatures that contribute to my life on this planet, I just don't have that much compassion left for him. About the equal of a guinea worm. Should I wish for the death of a guinea worm? Should I care if I kill one while digging it out of my body?

As long as our numbers are lower than these...

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/terror-from-the-right

...then we're still better than they are. When our incidents outnumber theirs, I will start to worry, I promise.

senseandsensibility

(17,090 posts)
15. I'm not asking you or anyone else on this board to show compassion for Bretibart.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:33 PM
Mar 2012

Many of us don't feel any (and I would put myself in that group). Still, that's different than being gleeful that he died. Again, not accusing you of that.
Actually, I would prefer to just ignore this story and keep my thoughts about it private. But I gave in to the temptation of trying to encourage everyone to remember their progressive ideals. Most of us have them, although some of us (myself included) don't always live up to them in the heat of the moment.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
12. No, he has to be remembered in the same fashion he eulogized Ted Kennedy.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:21 PM
Mar 2012

Just becaused he died does not mean we forget and forgive the crap this low life pulled.
When they stop flinging shit in the most vile and disrespectful fashion and have meaningful debate and dialogue, we will.

Until then, Breitbart's passing gets the same amount of sympathy and compassion he gave to Kennedy.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
13. Hatred and vile in a person doesn't come in a vaccuum
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:22 PM
Mar 2012

I mourn for whatever happened to him to make him so hateful.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
14. Fuck better - I want blood
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 09:23 PM
Mar 2012

I want to kick his dead corpse with steel toed boots - and only because I couldn't kick him when he was alive

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
18. I never actually wished he was dead
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 10:07 PM
Mar 2012

But that was mainly becuase I didn't think God or fate would actually be kind enough to deliver, so it seemed kind of pointless.

But now that he's dead, good riddance. Thanks God!

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