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applegrove

(118,749 posts)
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 05:36 PM Sep 2013

"Big Banks Start Campaign to Destroy Credit Unions"

Big Banks Start Campaign to Destroy Credit Unions

http://www.donttaxmycreditunion.org/big-banks-start-campaign-to-destroy-credit-unions/

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The Move Your Money project was born out of the Occupy Wall Street movement, which began in September 2011. The impetus was the announcement by Bank of America that they were going to impose a $5 dollar monthly fee for debit card users. On November 5, 2011, customers were to close their accounts at major banks and open new ones in community banks or in credit unions. Already infuriated by Wall Street’s recklessness leading to the 2008 financial collapse, the idea caught on like wildfire across the nation.

The effort worked, and Bank of America abandoned the debit card fee plan.

For the months leading to November 5, 2011 — and for several months after – millions of customers closed their accounts at the major banks and transferred their deposits to smaller ones and credit unions. Since then, credit union membership has been steadily growing. As of March of this year, credit union membership has increased to more than 95 million members and they hold 6 percent of the financial assets of United States to the tune of $1 trillion dollars.

Now the major banks want to destroy them.



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"Big Banks Start Campaign to Destroy Credit Unions" (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2013 OP
Gee that seems fair. mucifer Sep 2013 #1
Kicked and recommended for the Credit Unions. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #2
Not so shocking ...there's even been a few assholes here who have sided with the banks over this. L0oniX Sep 2013 #6
LOniX, I have been Duval Sep 2013 #11
That's because I have developed DU ESP. L0oniX Sep 2013 #23
"what part of "non-profit" do the banks not understand?" FiveGoodMen Sep 2013 #8
This is Part 2 of why the bailouts were a criminal anti-constitutional act Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #33
I wonder what part of "non-profit" do the banks not understand? CrispyQ Sep 2013 #38
Thank you for this. nt icymist Sep 2013 #3
Well, we knew that was coming. NV Whino Sep 2013 #4
I moved my money back when they tried to charge me for using my money. Damn them all to hell! L0oniX Sep 2013 #5
Roughly 1/3 of the country obxhead Sep 2013 #7
95 million actually represents about half of the people, since children Cal33 Sep 2013 #24
I was actually thinking along those lines after I posted obxhead Sep 2013 #28
Maybe Elizabeth Warren already has the information, and if she doesn't, her organization will Cal33 Sep 2013 #32
And once again, the purveyors of free market capitalism prove they're anything but Downtown Hound Sep 2013 #9
Bingo. LAST thing they want is a freed market with competitors Scootaloo Sep 2013 #26
Good thing we bailed the big banks out abelenkpe Sep 2013 #10
My wife and I intend to... TRoN33 Sep 2013 #12
My money is in local S&L's and credit unions. They call me if their interest rates fluctuat or they mtnester Sep 2013 #13
My credit union experience last week ... davidwparker Sep 2013 #14
I'm still furious Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2013 #15
K&R but it started over a year ago. n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #16
Top 100 credit unions online by assets Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2013 #17
Mine is #7 on the list shanti Sep 2013 #20
Locator Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2013 #22
Mine is #19 on the list magical thyme Sep 2013 #34
I use a credit union and won't have it any other way meow2u3 Sep 2013 #18
K&R blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #19
The banks are stealing middle class assets by paying absurdly low interest on deposits. AdHocSolver Sep 2013 #21
Here are the members of the banking committee. iandhr Sep 2013 #25
God damn banks need to be nationalized gopiscrap Sep 2013 #27
Well they need to be penalized somehow for all the destruction they caused. applegrove Sep 2013 #30
Hear hear! Oakenshield Sep 2013 #35
I've only ever been in a credit union! Agschmid Sep 2013 #29
K&R woo me with science Sep 2013 #31
Been a Credit Union member since I was 17 Revanchist Sep 2013 #36
If they intend on attacking non-profits, Curmudgeoness Sep 2013 #37
They want to seize the money in our accounts, like Cypress, CrispyQ Sep 2013 #39
I was unable to participate in Move Your Money... Wounded Bear Sep 2013 #40
kick and rec, already voted with my feet and at their petition nt steve2470 Sep 2013 #41
Do Business with two firms, both are drynberg Sep 2013 #42

Uncle Joe

(58,389 posts)
2. Kicked and recommended for the Credit Unions.
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 05:49 PM
Sep 2013

I wonder what part of "non-profit" do the banks not understand?

Credit unions work well for the people (members) if the banks want a piece of that action perhaps they should shift to non-profit status and quit gouging their customers in one form or another for every thin dime.

Thanks for the thread, applegrove.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
6. Not so shocking ...there's even been a few assholes here who have sided with the banks over this.
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 06:23 PM
Sep 2013
 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
11. LOniX, I have been
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 07:40 PM
Sep 2013

reading your posts and now look forward to seeing you here. Often, you have written my thoughts.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
8. "what part of "non-profit" do the banks not understand?"
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 06:59 PM
Sep 2013

All of it.

They are run by people who can see no reason for living that doesn't involve raking in money.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
33. This is Part 2 of why the bailouts were a criminal anti-constitutional act
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 09:15 AM
Sep 2013

When the banks were bailed out it did more than just steal our money to prop-up people who stole our money. It told the banks that not only would they not face the legal consequences of their actions but that the government would protect their private enterprises at the expense of other private enterprises.

The bailouts green-lighted this action.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
24. 95 million actually represents about half of the people, since children
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 09:08 PM
Sep 2013

cannot open accounts in their own names. Those who have accounts
with credit unions are mostly middle-class citizens, who don't have much.

Should we ask Elizabeth Warren if she could do something to stop the
banks from trying to destroy the credit unions?

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
28. I was actually thinking along those lines after I posted
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 10:37 PM
Sep 2013

But without more data it's really hard to tell how much of the population has money in unions and small banks.

How many of those "members" are businesses (from 1 person operations to large corps) as well.

More data is needed.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
32. Maybe Elizabeth Warren already has the information, and if she doesn't, her organization will
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 09:09 AM
Sep 2013

know how to obtain it better than any one of us can?

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
9. And once again, the purveyors of free market capitalism prove they're anything but
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 07:12 PM
Sep 2013

They could try and compete with them, you know, benefiting consumers? The way free market fundies always say will happen? Like offering discounts, better interest rates, less fees, you know, actually be creative and competitive like they always encourage us to be. You know, that competition and free market innovation that's supposed to be good for all of us?

But no, instead they're going to use under-handed tactics and destroy them. I wish I could say I was surprised.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
10. Good thing we bailed the big banks out
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 07:23 PM
Sep 2013

Now they are even bigger and want to use their power to finish off the competition.

 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
12. My wife and I intend to...
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 07:53 PM
Sep 2013

STAY WITH THE CREDIT UNIONS despite being taxed because if its not going to benefit the Too Big To Fail Banks and instead, all of taxed credit union money goes straight to Federal, then so be it. Many of our friends are saying the same thing. We'll never go back to Bank of America, ever.

mtnester

(8,885 posts)
13. My money is in local S&L's and credit unions. They call me if their interest rates fluctuat or they
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 08:01 PM
Sep 2013

open a flex rate plan...call me on my cell...personally. They know my husband's name. They know where my son went to college.

THIS is why I have them as my banks.

davidwparker

(5,397 posts)
14. My credit union experience last week ...
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 08:03 PM
Sep 2013

I went to the credit union to make a credit card payment. When the woman gave me my receipt, she had also included an application for a new credit card.

She had noticed that my APR was 10.9%. The new credit card was 7.9%. Does anybody see a bank doing that?

I'll keep my credit union, thanks.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
15. I'm still furious
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 08:18 PM
Sep 2013

that a wonderful Boston Market in my neighborhood was closed and turned into a Chase bank. They pop up everywhere, just like McDonalds.

Instead of banks deserting customers with their lousy service and fees, it would be nice to see the reverse - customers leaving banks in droves and turning to credit unions.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
20. Mine is #7 on the list
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 08:37 PM
Sep 2013

Golden One is terrific, after almost 20 years with them, I'll never go back to a bank!

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
34. Mine is #19 on the list
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 12:31 PM
Sep 2013

I've been with them since '84 and will never leave them. Never.

Years ago, I tried to deposit a check from a fellow employee for a service I'd provided. The rep at the window whispered to me that there were insufficient funds in the account, so she was going to pretend she didn't see what I just handed her so I could do what I "have to do," and slid the check back to me. Ha! Since I knew what time our direct deposit pay arrived, I was first in line cashing that check on payday!

When my account was down to $5.00, they left it open for years without a single fee or charge. That's all it takes to maintain your membership -- $5.00 in your savings account.

When my checkbook was stolen 18 months ago, because I'd been with them so long they waived the stop payment fees on a large block of checks.

When the creepy dude at the post office returned my replacement credit card because both my street and PO addresses were on the mailing envelope, the rep I spoke with noticed that I was again having my paycheck direct deposited. Since I was also ordering replacement checks while getting a new card sent via fedex, she got permission to bump me back up to platinum status so my replacement checks would be free again. That saved me more than the fedex charge for the credit card.

I love Digital Credit Union. They are the best. They have stood by me for nearly 30 years; I stand by them.

meow2u3

(24,767 posts)
18. I use a credit union and won't have it any other way
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 08:27 PM
Sep 2013

If those banksters get their hooks on my credit union it will be freakin' WAR!

AdHocSolver

(2,561 posts)
21. The banks are stealing middle class assets by paying absurdly low interest on deposits.
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 08:45 PM
Sep 2013

Banks pay about 0.1 percent interest on customers deposits and charge 4 percent to 14 percent interest on loans using those same deposits.

At those rates, the bank is getting 40 to 140 times return on that money (0.04 /0.001 to 0.14/0.001).

The rate of inflation is higher than 0.1 percent so that anyone who keeps money in interest bearing accounts in a bank is losing principal just by putting money in a bank.

The banks are effectively getting to use your money for free.

If your bank charges user fees on transactions, then, in effect, you are paying the bank to keep your money there.

The artificially low interest rates are set by the Federal Reserve which is effectively controlled by the biggest banks. The Fed serves to maximize bank and corporate profits while transferring middle class assets to Wall Street. All done legally.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
25. Here are the members of the banking committee.
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 10:01 PM
Sep 2013

Democrat Republican
Tim Johnson Chairman (D-SD)
Mike Crapo Ranking Member (R-ID)
Jack Reed (D-RI)
Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Charles E. Schumer (D-NY)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
Robert Menendez (D-NJ)
David Vitter (R-LA)
Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
Mike Johanns (R-NE)
Jon Tester (D-MT)
Patrick J. Toomey (R-PA)
Mark R. Warner (D-VA)
Mark Kirk (R-IL)
Jeff Merkley (D-OR)
Jerry Moran (R-KS)
Kay Hagan (D-NC)
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Joe Manchin III (D-WV)
Dean Heller (R-NV)
Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)
Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND)


If one of these individuals are you Senators call them and tell them you oppose this plan. If enough people make noise just like on Summers this plan will die.

applegrove

(118,749 posts)
30. Well they need to be penalized somehow for all the destruction they caused.
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 11:00 PM
Sep 2013

Screams out for more regulations.

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
36. Been a Credit Union member since I was 17
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 01:20 PM
Sep 2013

When I joined the Navy I opened an account with Navy Federal and have been using them for the past 25 years.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
37. If they intend on attacking non-profits,
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 01:43 PM
Sep 2013

this could get really ugly. First it was the credit unions, then it was the charities, then it was the churches.

It seems to me that this easily could snowball....or maybe it should snowball. If they take the tax benefit for non-profit member-owned credit unions away, it only makes sense that the sacred cows will have to be slaughtered as well.

CrispyQ

(36,492 posts)
39. They want to seize the money in our accounts, like Cypress,
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 02:38 PM
Sep 2013

but they have to make sure we don't have an alternative place to stash our cash, first.

The banksters are worse than vampires. They are insatiable.

Wounded Bear

(58,685 posts)
40. I was unable to participate in Move Your Money...
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 03:03 PM
Sep 2013

because I had done so years ealier.

I'm in a credit union now and I love it.

All one has to do is remember the whole S & L scandal to see where this is going.

As was stated up-thread, if they want our business, they should compete for it by offering more attractive service and products, not try to leverage government to subsidize themselves.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
42. Do Business with two firms, both are
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 04:16 PM
Sep 2013

Credit Unions, have for almost 40 years. Banksters, let's go, you assholes!

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