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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums22 TONS OF FAKE BEEF SEIZED IN CHINA
(Given the recent approval by the FDA to import chicken from China, one must ask: will it really be chicken? - btg)
This week, police in Xian province reported that they had found and seized more than 22 tons of fake beef at a local factory. Get this: the beef was actually made from pork (which is considerably cheaper than beef) that had been treated with chemicals including paraffin wax and industrial salts to make it look like it came from a cow. Shanghiist reports that the factory sold more than 1,500 kilos (3,000 pounds) of the fake beef to local markets at around 25 to 33 yuan ($4 or $5) per kilo. Six workshops that were producing the fake beef have been discovered and shut down.
This isnt the first instance of fake meat being sold in China. In May of this year, Medical Daily reported that 904 people were arrested in China for meat-related offenses over three months at the beginning of 2013. Included in these arrests was one gang of meat crooks who made over 10 million yuan ($1.6 million) by selling rat, fox, and mink meat at markets. This makes us wonder what impostor foods we might be eating, which in turn makes us very, very uncomfortable.
http://firstwefeast.com/eat/20000-kilos-of-fake-beef-seized-in-xian-china/
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)here.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)because now it is okay for us to ship US chickens and process them in China, and we get back heaven knows what. It's some serious bullshit that you can ship something with no FDA officials to a foreign country, they "process" it there, and it gets shipped right back to be put on the table of school children, in fast food restaurants, and fed to everybody that isn't aware.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)like tenders, strips and other bagged stuff. That "tastes like chicken", will have new meaning. soon.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and no country of origin needs to be declared. For all you know, it is chicken processed in the USA.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)but you never know.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)and you won't know, because it is "chicken" from the USA, processed in China, and shipped back to the USA with no FDA involved.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and import it right back into the US. Woo hoo, the gate has been opened for who knows what.
I am a dedicated carnivore, but this is turning me towards not eating chicken.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)The chicken comes from here, goes to China to get processed, then comes back? And we don't have any labeling that says so?
You read that correctly.
Barely eat any meat as it is.
Now I see no reason to eat any at all. That is so ridiculous and wasteful and I'm sorry I really don't want to eat food that isn't properly labeled and up front with customers.
We can't employ all the people who want to work in this country but we can fly chicken from the US and back. For what? To skip regulations and inspections here? I just do not get it.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)The only local farm in my area who sells non- "cornish cross", free range chickens sells 'em for about $25.00 each.
For the time being, I guess we're stuck with the costco stuff.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)it's coming to a store near you.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Freakishly large and immature, but still recognizably chicken.
We did find a local source for grass fed beef though and we expect our order (at a comparable price to that of the local meat market) to be ready sometime this month.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)This crap will be circulating in our food supply for decades.
AnotherDreamWeaver
(2,850 posts)At least it is a whole bird, but I understand it is likely Corp. Farm Raised...
We used to look for "Rocky Range" from Petaluma, free range chickens.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)They grow such large breasts in such a short period of time that the birds often can't walk after 3 months of age or so and will die miserable deaths shortly thereafter if not slaughtered.
I get that it's much cheaper to invest only 8 weeks into a bird intended for meat, but it'd be nice to find an alternative source of chickens which don't cost an arm and a leg.
Auggie
(31,172 posts)because I buy it from quality, local producers. I'll gladly pinch pennies elsewhere.
Lancero
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Aerows
(39,961 posts)where we ship our slaughtered chickens to be "processed" in China, you have no idea what you will be ingesting.
Lancero
(3,003 posts)On the other, I might not want to know.
They counterfeit pills too. They make em out of chalk, plaster, or whatever else they can press into a pill-like shape. I know that their methods for counterfeiting would be disgusting, but I still can't help but wonder.
Actually... Perhaps they wouldn't have to? Fake the chicken I mean... I've heard about storehouses filled with old chicken, decades old, getting seized after someone decided to start passing it off as fresh.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Mmm, mmm good.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10165968/Chinese-police-discover-chicken-feet-for-sale-46-years-past-sell-by-date.html
Not a horse shit story, but a FACT.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)yesphan
(1,588 posts)common.
I imagine a sliding door between the two.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)I want nothing to do with it. What the Chinese are also doing to honey is criminal.
Poisonous, tainted food...forget it.
This is why we NEED government agencies like the FDA for safety in what we consume.
If the market had its un-checked way, we would be poisoned to death.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)I always look for the country of origin and where it's PROCESSED at. This goes for any meat or seafood that I buy.
Draper Valley Farms!
http://www.drapervalleyfarms.com/our_chicken.htm
I hope the companies that send chickens to China for "processing" lose their shirts and go broke.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)That's what makes this law so fowl, pardon the pun.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)"Process" it, ship it back here and still make a profit? Is it because of the Chinese slaves that are used in the "processing plants, so therefore ultra cheap labor costs?
This stinks to high heaven.
And who is going to be lining up to buy this shit? Fast food companies?
I can hear the PR, deceptive, marketing "spin" now, when consumers inquire where their McNuggets came from.
fuckers.
That's the same thing I wonder. I stinks to high heaven. This is a destruction of our food supply. I won't touch a piece of processed chicken, now, and neither will anyone else be able to do so for decades. 46-year old chicken feet pretty much soured me on anything chicken related that could possibly come from China, and they don't have to declare the origin.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)I don't eat any meats at all anymore. Problem solved.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)we are all headed if we don't want to be poisoned.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)stories like this are partially why. When I make my own meals, I know exactly what goes into it.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)if you grew it yourself and raised it yourself. Under laws like these, you have no idea where it was processed because they DON'T have to declare. Not having to declare should be the first red flag that it is a bad law because they don't want consumers to be informed.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)I know where it is baked - it's a bakery in my neighborhood. Perishables like green onions wouldn't last the boat trip from Shanghai, and the apples I buy are stickered with their point of origin (I stick to New York State apples).
If you mean beef and chicken, I buy meat and poultry only from the local Costco, and their brands are transparent. They do have food products processed or manufactured in China, but the labels generally indicate that. If they do, OR if the label gives NO indication as to source, I won't buy it.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Understand something - Chinese media pushes that everyone suffers like they do in China. When they have an outbreak of something outrageous, they try to paint the world as everyone having the same problem so that their image doesn't suffer as badly.
Now we'll get their "chicken" processed over there with heaven only knows what in it, it won't be labeled, and suddenly, we become a PR campaign when we eat whatever in the hell it is that is shipped over.
This is a disaster in the making, for a number of reasons, and pretty much all processed chicken needs to be off limits if you want to keep your health.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Oh wait, that could be us, since it can now be processed in China, shipped to the US with no labeling requirements. Mmm, mmm, good.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10165968/Chinese-police-discover-chicken-feet-for-sale-46-years-past-sell-by-date.html
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)None of the meat I buy comes from China.
I did see some chicken feet the other day in an oriental market where I sometimes shop for specific products. I didn't buy them. While I like chicken feet, my wife doesn't, so it didn't seem like a good idea.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)How will you know since the law allows it to be processed in China and shipped back with no origin necessary?
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I make it a point to buy meat only when I can track it to its source. Doesn't everyone do that? My chickens come from a farm about 100 miles from where I live. Pork comes from Austin, MN. Turkey comes from one of the turkey farms in Minnesota. I don't eat beef, except on rare occasions, and I know its origins when I do.
Seafood indicates its source on the packaging, and I know seafood of all the types I eat on sight, so it's not something other than what it says it is.
I know, because I make it my business to know. How about you?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)So I know what I'm putting into my food. I'm more concerned with children that eat processed lunches at school, the elderly, and those in institutions. Why should they have to be subjected to this?
It's great to be aware of everything you put in your body, and many are, but many don't have control over that ... like a child eating chicken nuggets at the school cafeteria. Like I said, this is a catastrophe waiting to happen in such environs.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)If I did have kids in school, they'd be taking their lunches to school.
I think the beef in the OP is made for the Chinese market, not the US market.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)You will see why I am concerned. But yes, this is beef, but fear the processed chicken. And as a kid, I always brown-bagged it. I've eaten more peanut butter sandwiches than most
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Buy actual chicken.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)So I'm probably not going to be among those affected. My concern is for those forced to rely upon institutional meals like school children.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Which deem this okay. Not that there will be a USDA official overseeing the 4 plants in China that will be processing the "chicken".
JanMichael
(24,890 posts)that makes me happy to be a vegetarian.
And no, I am not protein deprived; I am not hungry....and I am not preachy.
But, I do wonder who can read these stories and want a hamburger. We tell people that we quit because of cholesterol, but the truth of the matter is we quit because the meat industry is so vile and disgusting that we just don't want to have anything to do with it anymore.
Folks, it's that bad out there--- please just try to eat as wisely as possible.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)There are organic meat processors, too - I buy only from Costco, they sell several brands from meat processing vendors whose practices are transparent.
For example, Organic Ranchers is a brand of ground beef they sell - I feel confident that their ground beef is reasonably healthy.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Counterfeit cows.....amazing
Aerows
(39,961 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)".....on-site US inspectors will not be required at these sites so there is simply no guarantee that food safety laws are up to United States standards....."
Aerows
(39,961 posts)tells me this is a catastrophe waiting to happen.
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BridgeTheGap
(3,615 posts)TheDeputy
(224 posts)Local butchers are the best. Mom and Pop businesses. I like to use the local Mexican grocery and the traditional butcher.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Good for merican jobs!