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Two numbers that we need to repeat, over and over again, as loudly as we can: (Original Post) Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 OP
I feel foolish but - what do those numbers refer to? el_bryanto Sep 2013 #1
Popular vote in the last congressional election. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #2
If I'm not mistaken, the popular vote for the US House. The lower number is Republican votes. nt stevenleser Sep 2013 #3
Exactly, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2013 #4
Abolish the district system, have seats in Congress allocated proportionately. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #5
Get buwy on that constitutional amendment. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #6
Two things are obvious about that proposal, I think. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #7
Would it actually be a good thing if it happened? ... spin Sep 2013 #8
I don't think it could or would. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #9
Take a look at this map of the 2012 Presidental election. ... spin Sep 2013 #10

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
2. Popular vote in the last congressional election.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:41 PM
Sep 2013

We're currently in the midst of a "clash of mandates" between the two parties/two houses.

It cannot be stressed loudly enough that the Republicans do not have a popular mandate - in the last congressional election, non-trivially more people voted for Democrats than Republicans, but the Republicans won more seats thanks to gerrymandering.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
6. Get buwy on that constitutional amendment.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:50 PM
Sep 2013

Requires 2/3 majority in each house and 3/4 ratification by the states. Any 13 states can veto it.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
7. Two things are obvious about that proposal, I think.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:57 PM
Sep 2013

1) It's not going to happen
2) It would be a good thing if it did.

It's not an uncommon combination in American politics, sadly.

spin

(17,493 posts)
8. Would it actually be a good thing if it happened? ...
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 02:18 PM
Sep 2013

Obviously if you lived in a state with a large population, you might feel it was a fantastic idea. That feeling would last until the lower populated states decided to secede from the union.

Don't kid yourself and say this could never happen. It not only could happen but it would. The country would not be divided north and south this time but right down the middle.

Fortunately there is absolutely no way that this will ever happen under our current Constitution and we both agree on this point.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
9. I don't think it could or would.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 02:24 PM
Sep 2013

For one thing, small population states aren't a recognisable block like "The South" or "The Northeast".

For another, if they're only staying because their bribed with more votes per capita than the rest of the country, good riddance to them.

One man, one vote. Equal representation for all.

spin

(17,493 posts)
10. Take a look at this map of the 2012 Presidental election. ...
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 03:14 PM
Sep 2013


I see a recognizable block of red states in the middle of the nation and also in the south with the exception of my state of Florida.

This argument is a waste of time as there is no way the Constitution will be changed to allow "equal representation for all." You even admitted this in reply #7.
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