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Corps ask "How LITTLE can we pay them?" instead of "What is a fair wage?" (Original Post) ZRT2209 Sep 2013 OP
Exactly, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2013 #1
OK, I am stupid--are we talking about corporations, or the USMC? nt MADem Sep 2013 #3
I Doubt The Reference Was To Marines, Sir.... The Magistrate Sep 2013 #4
It depends on your frame of reference! I thought CORPS--as in USMC. MADem Sep 2013 #5
The Magistrate Explains It All... nt MADem Sep 2013 #2
And for the most part, many say, "Ooo, that sucks, but I'll take it. It could be worse." Brickbat Sep 2013 #6
Well, of course they do! Corporations as currently structured are meant to maximize profits! hedgehog Sep 2013 #7
Because really, the answer is simply "As much as the workers let us get away with." Brickbat Sep 2013 #8
That is what they are supposed to ask cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #9
employees are also CUSTOMERS, and their lack of buying power tanks the economy ZRT2209 Sep 2013 #10
This is the only calculation that is done is relation to wages for almost all businesses... TampaAnimusVortex Sep 2013 #13
You mean a business' LONG term advantage. randome Sep 2013 #16
That thinking turned out to be superceded by internationalism cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #18
Exactly right. Only laws and regulations rein in corporate excess and natural human greed. randome Sep 2013 #14
I think it's way past time we started asking these questions: Initech Sep 2013 #11
abuse of the system, abuse of power over employees allows them to keep more and more of the pie ZRT2209 Sep 2013 #12
30 years of not questioning how horrible Reagonmics is also got us here. Initech Sep 2013 #15
As Chris Rock said.... A HERETIC I AM Sep 2013 #17
he nails it Skittles Sep 2013 #19

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
1. Exactly, Sir
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 02:59 PM
Sep 2013

And that is the problem; the whole ethos of business is to gouge, and gouge as deeply as can be managed.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. It depends on your frame of reference! I thought CORPS--as in USMC.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 03:04 PM
Sep 2013

Really.

I only thought "corporations" after I saw your post!

I agree with the sentiment, I suppose my confusion was useful in kicking the thread, if nothing else.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
7. Well, of course they do! Corporations as currently structured are meant to maximize profits!
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 03:07 PM
Sep 2013

Anything they do for the public welfare is directed to increase profits, as well.

Henry Ford didn't raise wages so his employees could buy cars. He raised wages because the work was so mind numbing that the men he hired took their first pay packet, spent the week-end getting as drunk as possible and never returned the following week. Every Monday was spent training new employees. He had to raise the wages to outweigh the stress of the assembly line.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
9. That is what they are supposed to ask
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 03:16 PM
Sep 2013

The problem is not greedy business. The problem is everything else in the world that does or does not weigh against the natural and expected desire that people want to pay less for things.

Any solution that depends on business being nicer is useless, so there's no point blaming business for being business.


Regulation (like the federal minimum wage, for instance) regulates what people would do absent regulation. It is government's job to regulate business, not business' job.

ZRT2209

(1,357 posts)
10. employees are also CUSTOMERS, and their lack of buying power tanks the economy
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 03:28 PM
Sep 2013

so it is in a business' interest to pay a fair wage, as stated by Henry Ford and J. Paul Getty

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. You mean a business' LONG term advantage.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 03:48 PM
Sep 2013

Short-term, the CEOs don't give a shit. Which is why we need real laws and regulations to rein them in. Nothing will change by pointing out the unfairness of things.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
14. Exactly right. Only laws and regulations rein in corporate excess and natural human greed.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 03:46 PM
Sep 2013

It's a shame we have a disfunctional Congress.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

Initech

(100,086 posts)
11. I think it's way past time we started asking these questions:
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 03:32 PM
Sep 2013

1. How much fucking profit does a corporation need to survive?

2.When the CEO makes 475 times the average worker, why are we the ones constantly being asked to sacrifice?

Fuck the CEOs and Wall St.

ZRT2209

(1,357 posts)
12. abuse of the system, abuse of power over employees allows them to keep more and more of the pie
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 03:36 PM
Sep 2013

for themselves (the corporations) and those who run them.

There is running a business, and then there is abuse.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,371 posts)
17. As Chris Rock said....
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 03:50 PM
Sep 2013

"Paying minimum wage means a company is telling you 'we would pay you less but that's illegal.'"

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