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handmade34

(22,757 posts)
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:30 PM Sep 2013

"Drug addiction: The complex truth"

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130910-drug-addiction-the-complex-truth

We’re told studies have proven that drugs like heroin and cocaine instantly hook a user. But it isn’t that simple – a set of little-known experiments carried out over 30 years ago tells a very different tale...Taking cocaine can change the structure of the brain within hours in what could be the first steps of drug addiction, according to US researchers.
Drugs are scary. The words “heroin” and “cocaine” make people flinch. It's not just the associations with crime and harmful health effects, but also the notion that these substances can undermine the identities of those who take them. One try, we're told, is enough to get us hooked. This, it would seem, is confirmed by animal experiments.

Many studies have shown rats and monkeys will neglect food and drink in favour of pressing levers to obtain morphine (the lab form of heroin). With the right experimental set up, some rats will self-administer drugs until they die. At first glance it looks like a simple case of the laboratory animals losing control of their actions to the drugs they need. It's easy to see in this a frightening scientific fable about the power of these drugs to rob us of our free will.

But there is more to the real scientific story, even if it isn't widely talked about. The results of a set of little-known experiments carried out more than 30 years ago paint a very different picture, and illustrate how easy it is for neuroscience to be twisted to pander to popular anxieties...


http://www.stuartmcmillen.com/comics_en/rat-park/


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"Drug addiction: The complex truth" (Original Post) handmade34 Sep 2013 OP
Somebody, a while back, said something to this effect and was pummeled. Th1onein Sep 2013 #1
"live a life in poverty without hope" handmade34 Sep 2013 #4
Thank you for this Warpy Sep 2013 #2
if only handmade34 Sep 2013 #3
Thank you for this. woo me with science Sep 2013 #5
most of the article was... handmade34 Sep 2013 #7
A neighbor of mine recently had a quintuple bypass at 42 years old Fumesucker Sep 2013 #6
So what? What does this have to do with the topic of the article? Th1onein Sep 2013 #8
Just pointing out one of the more addictive drugs available in our society Fumesucker Sep 2013 #12
Oh, it doesn't fly under the radar. Th1onein Sep 2013 #16
Nicotine addiction is quite widely regarded as one of the hardest to beat. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #9
+1 handmade34 Sep 2013 #13
Addiction is a symptom, often, of wider social problems, to be sure. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #10
But, we live in a big park PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #11
Rat Park! I cited that in a biomed paper Recursion Sep 2013 #14
nice! handmade34 Sep 2013 #15

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
1. Somebody, a while back, said something to this effect and was pummeled.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:39 PM
Sep 2013

I don't even remember who it was, but he said something like, if he had to live a life in poverty without hope, he would turn to drugs, too.

Warpy

(111,327 posts)
2. Thank you for this
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:45 PM
Sep 2013

It's about time people understand the big lies the whole drug war is founded on.

At the base of all of it is fear of brown people and fear that if people treat their own pain, they'll be inefficient workers.

Add to that the strong Puritan streak that is suspicious of any pleasure at all, and you end up with the War on Drugs.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
5. Thank you for this.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:56 PM
Sep 2013

It's a tremendous mistake to measure "sickness" by difficulty coping in a profoundly sick society.

These findings do not surprise me at all.

handmade34

(22,757 posts)
7. most of the article was...
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 10:02 PM
Sep 2013

well DUH! but this part was intriguing...

"Further support for his emphasis on living conditions came from another set of tests his team carried out in which rats brought up in ordinary cages were forced to consume morphine for 57 days in a row. If anything should create the conditions for chemical rewiring of their brains, this should be it.

But once these rats were moved to Rat Park they chose water over morphine when given the choice, although they did exhibit some minor withdrawal symptoms."

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
6. A neighbor of mine recently had a quintuple bypass at 42 years old
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:57 PM
Sep 2013

And yet he's unable to quit smoking the cigarettes that he freely acknowledges may kill him soon.



Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
12. Just pointing out one of the more addictive drugs available in our society
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 05:35 AM
Sep 2013

A drug that often seems to fly under the radar so to speak when harm to individuals and society from addiction is mentioned.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
16. Oh, it doesn't fly under the radar.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 11:53 AM
Sep 2013

I'm a smoker, myself. We are one of the most villified of addicts in this society. Yet the US government supported the tobacco industry for years, with subsidies for tobacco growers, and we were bombarded with commercials targeted at teenagers for decades. Nicotine is more addictive than cocaine and heroin combined. Very hard to quit, believe me, I've tried numerous times.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
9. Nicotine addiction is quite widely regarded as one of the hardest to beat.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 05:02 AM
Sep 2013

I'm glad every damn day that I never became a smoker.

handmade34

(22,757 posts)
13. +1
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 07:24 AM
Sep 2013

I remember that 1/2 cigarette when I was 16 and that was it for me... ugh! so glad I didn't continue... probably would have died from lung cancer by now

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
10. Addiction is a symptom, often, of wider social problems, to be sure.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 05:05 AM
Sep 2013

As well as sometimes a cause.

For instance, we hear a great deal about the meth epidemic in middle America- and, no doubt, as ugly drugs go meth is one of the worst. However, what is often not mentioned are the numbers of people working two or three minimum wage jobs just to keep their heads above water. No benefits. Maybe a, what, 18 hour work day?

Yeah, how the fuck is someone going to maintain that? Um, well, meth. At least for a little while, until the shit falls apart.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
11. But, we live in a big park
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 05:06 AM
Sep 2013

I think the issue is more that we are constantly fed the consumerism line. This leads us to think we need things and money for happiness. There is so much of the world still available at little or no cost. It is there if we choose to search for it. Some do not see it. Some have to be spoon-fed life. Some get upset if what they are spoon-fed is not to their liking. I guess my point is, "Do not rely on others to create your happiness. Create your own happiness."

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