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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNotice to food stamp recipients:
Effective April 1, 2012Your food assistance benefits may be reduced if you pay for utilities. This reduction is because the maximum amount that we are allowed to deduct from your income for utility expenses has been lowered.
Please note: this change is not subject to appeal.
Lovely. Just frigging lovely.
sinkingfeeling
(51,479 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,810 posts)showed up in the mailboxes of food stamp recipients in Colorado.
montanacowboy
(6,104 posts)I have not seen this in Montana
montanacowboy
(6,104 posts)curious since I work in the field
madamesilverspurs
(15,810 posts)Lindsay
(3,276 posts)want poor people to just hurry up and die, don't they?
CAPHAVOC
(1,138 posts)In the future food will have color labels. Food Stampers will only be allowed certain "healthy" colors. It is for their own good.
lacrew
(283 posts)My step-son works in a grocery store. He has mentioned that he can spot a SNAP card holder, just by the contents of the cart. Instead of the approach I would take (Ramen Noodles and bags of rice), many (I'm sure not all) take the candy bar and soda pop approach.
I don't look at it as a health issue...but a monetary one. The food stamp dollar could be stretched out a lot further, with a little education on what not to buy.
No I don't advocate restrictions - I drink soda pop and eat an occassional candy bar. But a little education could go a long way.
BTW, a companion program is WIC. It is alot more cumbersome on the grocery store (i.e. it takes longer to complete a transcation); but, the way it prescribes specific food items has soem merit.
CAPHAVOC
(1,138 posts)We are running out of $$. Bad food items should not be allowed.
Orrex
(63,232 posts)Let's pick our targets with a bit more care, eh? Rather than kicking the poor--who get kicked enough in day to day life, believe me--we would be much better off as a country and as human beings if we would work to aid those who need assistance, rather than scrambling to find ways to avoid helping people of low income just because somebody somewhere buys a candy bar.
My Good Babushka
(2,710 posts)The juice and cereal were useful, but I ended up with dozens of boxes of rice, jars of peanut butter, and was often compelled to buy four gallons of milk at a time, which I had to give away, often, or it would go bad.
me b zola
(19,053 posts)Rather than obsess on poor people and their choices ( i know, its such gratifying fun...it makes you feel superior) why don't you worry about the 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS that
Donald Rumsfeld announced was "missing" from the pentagon 09/10/2001? Or the billions that the pentagon says they have no way of knowing where it all went in Iraq? Oh yeah, cause it makes you feel superior to someone if you get to beat up on the poor.
Posts like yours make me throw up a little in my mouth.
Soda pop! oh the fucking horrors that a poor person wants a fucking treat
Bite me
lacrew
(283 posts)I think my post was reasonable. In the end, I advocated 'education'...I did not advocate taking away anybody's soda pop.
And my discussion of money had to do with how each individual SNAP recipient could stretch their own food stamp dollar....which has about as much to do with pentagon waste as you do with a Mensa gathering.
Grow up.
me b zola
(19,053 posts)a) "my tax dollars!"
b) "they wouldn't be poor if they would make 'appropriate' choices"
True enough that i wouldn't have a lot in comon with those at a Mensa gathering, my IQ is the same as JFK's, just a high normal rating. So if that makes you feel superior to me, can you lay off the poor?
As a people we have forgotten the lessons that those that lived through the Great Depression learned about how to get by on nothing, true enough. But it galls me that so many feel the need to peer into the lives of the poor to judge and evaluate their choices as if the poor are inferior or children.
If you really care about the lives of the poor and truly want to help with education to make their lives better get involved in your comunity. But please do so with humility and kindness.
liberal_mama
(1,495 posts)Just because someone is poor doesn't mean they have to be embarrassed about occasionally indulging in candy or pop. People can make their own choices.
Orrex
(63,232 posts)The abusers of the poor invariably claim that they're motivated by some higher vision and that they're only trying to help people.
The smug condescension of such high-mindedness is unbecoming a progressive thinker.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)we all know what the "green" will be made out of
CAPHAVOC
(1,138 posts)But it will lower the cost of Government Health Care. Free treatment comes at a price after all.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)BTW, what's the deal with El Paso County?
https://peak.state.co.us/selfservice/selfserviceController?PAGE_ACTION=LoadAPRCT&CURRENT_PAGE_ID=COMPA&tab=5132&POP_UP=Y
lacrew
(283 posts)Do you have an actual letter?
madamesilverspurs
(15,810 posts)is, in fact, legit. It's also bilingual, standard for these parts.
coded FS3020 FS COLA-Utility Allowance
Orrex
(63,232 posts)It returned six hits. All of them from this thread.