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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 02:58 PM Sep 2013

John Kerry May Have Accidentally Found A Diplomatic Solution In Syria

White House and State Department officials said they are open to Russia's proposal to place Syrian chemical weapons under international control and then destroy them, even though they are skeptical about the Syrians' sincerity.

"We'd have to take a hard look. Any transfer of chemical weapons to international control would be a positive development," Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes told MSNBC on Monday. He quickly added, though, that the White House was "skeptical" of the seriousness of the offer.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-syria-chemical-weapons-proposal-john-kerry-2013-9

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John Kerry May Have Accidentally Found A Diplomatic Solution In Syria (Original Post) FarCenter Sep 2013 OP
LOL, nice headline. And I see some war monger types seem upset that their military intervention quinnox Sep 2013 #1
not a war monger. don't see this going anywhere. cali Sep 2013 #5
I know. We have all been there so many times before. truedelphi Sep 2013 #21
Yeah, those of us supportive of President Obama are just despondent now Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2013 #28
I hope it works shenmue Sep 2013 #2
Or maybe he sent up a trial balloon, Putin caught it, and then Putin carried it to Assad. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #3
I believe State's first announcement that Kerry was making a rhetorical point FarCenter Sep 2013 #10
It appears that Kerry hasn't been thinking a number of things through of late.......... wandy Sep 2013 #12
Seems doable as long as it's international and not lead by Russia. Also seems like a way out for uponit7771 Sep 2013 #4
I agree. HappyMe Sep 2013 #9
Accidentally? sharp_stick Sep 2013 #6
Perhaps, 'moronically' would be a better term grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #16
Whatever helps you sleep at night sharp_stick Sep 2013 #17
LOL. Sounds like people who didn't get it earlier need to pretend blm Sep 2013 #7
bwahahahahaha cali Sep 2013 #8
Yes. He just stumbles into diplomatic victories Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #11
One of them played Dr. Strangelove FarCenter Sep 2013 #15
God I hope so gopiscrap Sep 2013 #13
Note to self: Encourage John Kerry to have more accidents avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #14
"Accident": the measured opinion of a recent journalism undergradudate frazzled Sep 2013 #18
remember how the very important disclosure of "All the facts" truedelphi Sep 2013 #20
I don't think we're talking about the same thing frazzled Sep 2013 #23
Here a catblogger:Kerry Gaffes, But Maybe It's the Good Kind of Gaffe jakeXT Sep 2013 #22
Kerry publicly demanded Syria give up it's CW stockpiles several days ago. Schema Thing Sep 2013 #19
The effort to figure out how to not give the administration any credit for this JoePhilly Sep 2013 #25
Pretty much. The most deplorable reporting on a serious issue blm Sep 2013 #27
Very true. JoePhilly Sep 2013 #30
Derp de derp. progressoid Sep 2013 #24
It is as simple as this: I don't believe him any more. n/t Paper Roses Sep 2013 #26
Or maybe not accidental. matt819 Sep 2013 #29
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
1. LOL, nice headline. And I see some war monger types seem upset that their military intervention
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:00 PM
Sep 2013

might be going down the drain >

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
21. I know. We have all been there so many times before.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 04:35 PM
Sep 2013

The powers that be will do whatever it will take to get this war on. And it really is not about Syria.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,422 posts)
28. Yeah, those of us supportive of President Obama are just despondent now
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 05:14 PM
Sep 2013

that he might not have to launch strikes against Syria. I wasn't really for them but I wasn't dead set against them either and I would be just as glad if a diplomatic solution is found- of course, if a diplomatic solution is reached, I would be surprised if the threat of airstrikes wasn't at least a contributing factor to coming to the table.

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
2. I hope it works
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:01 PM
Sep 2013

It would be great if we can put a stop to the chem. assaults without having to go in there. Whew.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
10. I believe State's first announcement that Kerry was making a rhetorical point
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:08 PM
Sep 2013

I don't think that Kerry had thought through the possibilities. He led off base too far and got picked off.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
12. It appears that Kerry hasn't been thinking a number of things through of late..........
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:12 PM
Sep 2013

If the Russians are willing to disarm this situation, I'd be the last one to fault John Kerry for getting lucky.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
4. Seems doable as long as it's international and not lead by Russia. Also seems like a way out for
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:02 PM
Sep 2013

...Assad and even the US.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
9. I agree.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:05 PM
Sep 2013

The thing that concerns me is the Russia/Putin connection. I wouldn't trust Putin with CW either.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
6. Accidentally?
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:03 PM
Sep 2013

Is that what it's going to be called? Thanks for the heads up, I'm sure nobody would want to be caught off guard.

blm

(113,078 posts)
7. LOL. Sounds like people who didn't get it earlier need to pretend
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:03 PM
Sep 2013

that these matters had 'accidental' solutions.

FYI - Russia and US have quietly been on the same page regarding Syria since before the chemical attack. Russia is using this entire scenario to do their part in getting Assad to the place they needed him to be. Russia's Putin and Lavrov don't want military intervention any more than Obama and Kerry.


http://www.rferl.org/content/syria-lavrov-kerry-geneva/25071543.html

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
11. Yes. He just stumbles into diplomatic victories
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:12 PM
Sep 2013

Notice the resemblance? And they're both French. (Hint: Neither of them is).

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
18. "Accident": the measured opinion of a recent journalism undergradudate
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:46 PM
Sep 2013
Brett LoGiurato is a political reporter for Business Insider. He graduated from Syracuse University in 2011 with degrees in newspaper and online journalism and political science.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/author/brett-logiurato#ixzz2eQUaignN


Are we now getting our foreign policy analysis from 23-year-old journalism grads? I'll add this to the stockpile of commentary, but I'm going to be reading some other descriptions from more seasoned foreign policy analysts.

This could have been a blog post. (PS: I'm always wary of Business Insider. Remember, its editor was charged with securities fraud and he was fined and permanently barred from the securities industry. Once a hawker of false goods, he should be questioned in all future transactions.)

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
20. remember how the very important disclosure of "All the facts"
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 04:34 PM
Sep 2013

relating to George Dubya's Weapons of Mass destruction and the need to have a quick and victorious assault on Saddam came from a master's thesis of some college nobody who had his work plagiarized by the Bush regime?

And last week's "intel analysis" that was four pages long also had the same quality as what a high school senior might have written as intel analysis for a screenplay.

Both administrations rely far more heavily on the CIA factor of total control over media, and now that CNN is so "bravely"
offering us up those green screen technology vids of the mass murder by sarin gas, it is almost mote as to how an "analysis" is written.

Few people is this country can use logic any more. And most people perfer TV and viideos to print.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
22. Here a catblogger:Kerry Gaffes, But Maybe It's the Good Kind of Gaffe
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 04:41 PM
Sep 2013

Kerry Gaffes, But Maybe It's the Good Kind of Gaffe

"I had honestly forgotten what a gaffe factory Kerry was," writes a friend, "but it seems like he's continuing on in his bold tradition of marching foot in mouth first." The daming gaffe, it turns out, was an off-the-cuff response to a reporter who asked if there was anything Bashar al-Assad could do to avoid an American military strike. "Sure," Kerry said dismissively, he could turn over his entire arsenal of chemical weapons this week. That would do it. "But he isn't about to do it," Kerry said, "and it can't be done, obviously."

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/09/kerry-gaffe-syria-chemical-weapons-russia

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
19. Kerry publicly demanded Syria give up it's CW stockpiles several days ago.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 04:18 PM
Sep 2013

So to act as if this was "accidental" is ignorant.


And I'm sure he has done behind the scenes if not publicly since he began serving, although no one (here) was paying any attention to Syria months ago.

blm

(113,078 posts)
27. Pretty much. The most deplorable reporting on a serious issue
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 05:14 PM
Sep 2013

that they cover not much differently than a WWW match.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
29. Or maybe not accidental.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 05:18 PM
Sep 2013

This could all have been diplomatic theater, but thanks to Bush & Co. we are all Pavlovian trained to assume war, occupation, etc.

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