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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums60 min on the east coast is now featuring our greatest problem "cyber-era" job replacement.
Nurses, lawyers, pharmacy, warehousers and even surgeons are being replaced by robots, costing approx $3.40 per hour.
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)CK_John
(10,005 posts)least 1/2 public universities and public k-12 schools, wreck family stability and probably our form of representative government(think Detroit).
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)And thats going to starve billions. But hey, we all got to have priorities I guess
Heywood J
(2,515 posts)for not considering the millions around them.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)is the problem!
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,378 posts)Thanks for the thread, CK_John.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)Education will become highly selective (mensa types only) if society doesn't fold completely before we work it all out.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)I work with many so-called degreed offshore folk who actually know less than the average American high school nerd
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)leftstreet
(36,109 posts)We should all benefit from technology
CK_John
(10,005 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)What would everyone else do? Would Republicans still call the 99.99% of Americans out of work lazy???
Obviously that's an absurd extreme, but I think we're actually starting on our way down that road as we speak. It's a little hard to see, but the economy doesn't need us all to work anymore, and needs fewer of us with every passing year...
Paul Krugman has suggested that the fast movement of technology could pose a problem for American workers.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)we can begin to find solutions like lower SS age to at least 50, a 4 day week, setup public community workshops for crafts and inventors, have public libraries start lending tools.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)bhikkhu
(10,718 posts)as the most common job many years ago was agricultural work. After the depression, most of those jobs were replaced by machines.
There was a massive shift of people to the cities, where there was a variety of mill-work, office work and labor-intensive manufacturing. Most of those jobs were replaced by machines, automation and technology over the last four decades.
Off-shoring of labor was a big and well-publicized drain as well, but the advances in technology over the last few decades (by one estimate) have eliminated 10 jobs for every one that went overseas.
Change is definitely an continuing process. I'm not sure what I would do if I were a kid now, and I'm not sure what to advise my kids to do...but then they are more prone to go their own way anyway, and I just hope for the best. I'm a mechanic myself, which has been reliable and steady work. It is definitely hard to keep up with new things though - I'm currently studying to complete a new round of technical certifications to keep up to date.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)at least 1/2 the population world wide. Its not local.
bhikkhu
(10,718 posts)...if the material needs of humanity are being adequately met by a small human labor force and a large amount of mechanization, then the problem becomes one of distribution. People, given the opportunity, will spend lots of time and money on services they don't need, but that they enjoy and that create jobs for other people.
If I had more money I'd go out to eat more often, participate more in sports, travel more and so forth, all activities not related to productivity, but to human interaction. That segment of the economy could easily grow, if there was a mechanism to fairly distribute the proceeds from the manufacture of the material good we use. And life would be more enjoyable.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)bhikkhu
(10,718 posts)I'd be all in favor of proactive tax policies, nationalizing selective industries, or really anything that was necessary to build and balance a healthy society. Just hoping it does it by itself isn't very realistic, looking at the scope and history of the problem.
Its certainly not our grandfather's economy any more, or one that most of the last generation of economists would recognize.
Heywood J
(2,515 posts)They've already proven in the stock markets that finance can be accomplished by computer algorithms attached to bank accounts. A simple coin-flip algorithm would do a better job than many corporate officers these days and there would be an improved, 50% chance of ending up with the ethical outcome.