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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 06:58 PM Sep 2013

More Parents Opting Kids out of Standardized Tests

More Parents Opting Kids out of Standardized Tests


While his eighth-grade classmates took state standardized tests this spring, Tucker Richardson woke up late and played basketball in his Delaware Township driveway.

Tucker's parents, Wendy and Will, are part of a small but growing number of parents nationwide who are ensuring their children do not participate in standardized testing. They are opposed to the practice for myriad reasons, including the stress they believe it brings on young students, discomfort with tests being used to gauge teacher performance, fear that corporate influence is overriding education and concern that test prep is narrowing curricula down to the minimum needed to pass an exam.

"I'm just opposed to the way high-stakes testing is being used to evaluate teachers, the way it's being used to define what's happening in classrooms," said Will Richardson, an educational consultant and former teacher. "These tests are not meant to evaluate teachers. They're meant to find out what kids know."

The opt-out movement, as it is called, is small but growing. It has been brewing for several years via word of mouth and social media, especially through Facebook. The "Long Island opt-out info" Facebook page has more than 9,200 members, many of them rallying at a Port Jefferson Station, N.Y., high school last month after a group of principals called this year's state tests — and their low scores — a "debacle."

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"We encourage parents to have their kids take the test, but there are no consequences of any kind," she said. "There's no formal process for opting out. They can keep their child home that day and write an excuse."

Maria Ferguson of the Center on Education Policy said she thinks the practice of parents pulling their kids out of standardized tests is symbolic.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/parents-opting-kids-standardized-tests-20193807

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More Parents Opting Kids out of Standardized Tests (Original Post) The Straight Story Sep 2013 OP
No Regents "standardized" tests = No NY HS Diploma HockeyMom Sep 2013 #1
They did pretty well before the standardized tests The Straight Story Sep 2013 #2
No, they didn't. Igel Sep 2013 #4
One study (among many) The Straight Story Sep 2013 #6
When? HockeyMom Sep 2013 #9
But you are conflating the Regents with the plethora of standardized tests given at other times, in msanthrope Sep 2013 #7
Our state requires standardized testing for graduation. I'm really glad to see teachers, parents, liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #8
Nothing wrong with standardized testing, but the so-called reformers are going crazy with them. reformist2 Sep 2013 #3
Our district uses them for class placement exboyfil Sep 2013 #5
 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
1. No Regents "standardized" tests = No NY HS Diploma
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 07:30 PM
Sep 2013

Do these parents know this? Their children will have to take another standardized test, GED, to get a HS diploma. This law was put into effect in NY in I believe 2004. The local school's tests will not grant them a diploma any more.

If they want to go to college, they will be competing with a GED (maybe) against all the other students who do have a state Regents diploma. How will that look? Besides which, will they even take an SAT or ACT for college?

While I agree these tests should not be used to evaluate the teachers, but HOW do you evaluate the students without tests? Every segment of our society uses standardized tests for something.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
2. They did pretty well before the standardized tests
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 07:33 PM
Sep 2013

and leaving testing up to the school/teacher who better know their students.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
4. No, they didn't.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:38 PM
Sep 2013

If you empathize with your students you don't want them to fail.

They can make gravel look smart, and you still pass them because if they're 20 and still high school seniors you don't want to fail them. You pass them because on the basis of their grades in their junior year they got into college and you don't want to deny them college.

"Why Johnny can't read." "Nation at Risk." These weren't just RW stories. They were real problems. I tutored this guy back in the '80s who was reading at barely a 3rd grade level. He sought tutoring through a community college program because he was reading below the level of his 3rd grade son and his kid was helping him. He wanted to pass his electrician's test but couldn't read the manual, couldn't study for the test.

He had his high school diploma.

Standardized tests were implemented to prevent that kind of game--passing kids because you felt sorry for them, letting them graduate to avoid disappointing their parents or harming their future. They had crap teachers with no backbones who did their kids no favors.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
6. One study (among many)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:51 PM
Sep 2013

Conclusions

Teachers and students feel a tremendous amount of pressure associated with high-stakes testing to produce high student test scores.
The pressure felt by teachers associated with high-stakes testing results in drill and practice type of curriculum and instruction.
There appears to be a consistent increase in test preparation activities in the period immediately preceding the administration of a test, ending abruptly following the test.
Teachers generally perceive a top-down filtering of test-related pressure, beginning with central office administrators down to the classroom level.
There is a clear feeling among most teachers that the focus on minimum standards and basic skills has diminished both the richness and depth of the curriculum and professional autonomy over curricular and instructional decisions.
The pressure felt by high-stakes testing is greater in disadvantaged schools and results in more drill and practice instruction.
There is a firm belief among teachers in both low-stakes and high-stakes testing environments that the pressure to improve student scores is steadily increasing.
Gifted and talented students feel pressure to perform well to bring up all scores, which can often result in disengagement from the learning process.
Many gifted students report frustration and resentment at the slow pace of learning and repetitive nature of test preparation.
It appears that the current high-stakes testing movement affects gifted students by providing a curricular ceiling that is well below their own academic potential.

ted.uconn.edu/nrcgt/moonbrja.html

My friend (and soon to be guest on a radio show I do on Friday nights) has a Masters in Education and has also written on the topic. She and other professionals despise the testing as it removes their ability to manage and teach classes and forces the focus to be more narrow, much as the failed attempt at Outcome Based Education in the 90's. Students are not robots or computers to be programmed - they are all different and have differing abilities on various topics. We cannot expect them all to be the same, they never will be.

Centralizing education on a federal level is a terrible idea and trying to make a one size fits all testing criteria is just plain stupid.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
9. When?
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 04:33 PM
Sep 2013

I had to take the Catholic HS COOP in 1961 to gain admission. This was also in 8th Grade and 3 hours long. From what I understand Private/Prep HS requires a similar standardized test for admission. They still require these tests for admission today. I was 12 when I had to take this SAT type test and apply to high schools. The process was similar to the college process. These high schools did reject students based on their scores. Wait for that "fat envelope" just like college applicants do. Well, it does prepare one at a young age.

Oh, that poor 8th grader. Because of NCLB, even 3rd Graders now take these tests. You can even include Special Needs students. I saw an 11 year old special needs girl cry and hide under a table when she had to take the Florida 5th Grade FCAT Science test. She was reading at a 1st Grade level. Science??????? Forget that 8th Grade boy who didn't "feel" like taking the test. Requiring a Special Needs Child to take them IS abusive, and ABSURD.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
7. But you are conflating the Regents with the plethora of standardized tests given at other times, in
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:53 PM
Sep 2013

other grades.

The Regents happen in high school. This is an 8th grader. If he doesn't want to take them, why should he have to?

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
8. Our state requires standardized testing for graduation. I'm really glad to see teachers, parents,
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:09 PM
Sep 2013

and students fighting back against testing, but I'm afraid it will take many students not graduating to change the system. As a parent of a 9th grader I have to say I haven't decided if I'm ready to take that step. I am thinking about it, just haven't taken that step as of yet.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
3. Nothing wrong with standardized testing, but the so-called reformers are going crazy with them.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 07:33 PM
Sep 2013

To test students every single year from 2nd to 10th grade with standardized testing is insane. Teachers and parents need to get together to push back against the administrators and (so-called) reformers.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
5. Our district uses them for class placement
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:44 PM
Sep 2013

Very irritating for me when I was trying to get my kids placed in PreAlgebra in 7th grade.

So much in the way of merit aid is based on ACT performance that the standardized tests do serve to get students ready for this test. Right now my daughter is struggling to find time to prep for the ACT test (she is a senior this year). She took it at the end of her sophomore year. She probably needs 3-5 points improvement to open up more scholarship opportunities. It is a little frustrating because she is currently doing sophomore engineering work, and will start at our state school (if she elects to go there) as a 2nd semester sophomore/first semester junior.

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