Credit where it's due: Obama has done more for the causes of peace and democracy than any President

[Jackpine Radical]

in the last 60 years.

Due to the ham-handedness of his war propaganda and whistleblower-persecution efforts, his Administration has presided over what shows every sign of becoming the Great Awakening of the American public.

From the 1% versus the 99% message of Occupy Wall Street to the "Hell No We Won't Go" response of the American public to the prospect of new wars in the Middle East, average people are catching on.

There was a popular bumper sticker in the 60's that said, "What if they gave a war and nobody came?" I have waited 50 years to find out the answer to that question. Thanks Barack Obama for maybe giving me a chance to at last find out.

[liberal_at_heart]

1. The people in the Middle East who have lost loved ones to drones may disagree with you on that.

[Jackpine Radical]

7. did you, like,

happen to read the body of my post?

[liberal_at_heart]

16. yes, I understand your post is sarcasm. I just disagree that him uniting people against action in

Syria means he is furthering peace and democracy.

[Jackpine Radical]

19. And I share your on drone strikes.

But ya can't get everything into one post.

Really, though, I do think people are starting to wake up. Just too many cries of Wolf, too many gut-wrenching examples of perfidy in the halls of political and economic power.

[ElboRuum]

18. Kind of speaks to the sad state of DU these days...

...they're only reading the headlines.

I suspect that I could write a headline which would extol the virtues of whatever passes at the moment for a progressive cause, then write the body of the post tearing it apart and the recs and the +1s would be a fait accomplit.

My perception of DUers as "smarter than the average bears" has taken a hit somewhat in the past few years.

[Demeter]

33. There's been turnover in the DU population

Many a stalwart has passed or left, many a wet-behind-the-ears Newbie spews nonsense, and then there are the people who live under bridges and post for a living...an ever-increasing tribe.

[lumpy]

28. Read the whole goddam post not just headlines. The only way to get the whole story instead

of standing in the forest with pants down.

[HardTimes99]

2. Emphatic K&R. I do think the Nobel Committee might want to re-think its

policy about handing out Peace Prizes in advance.

[liberal_at_heart]

5. Yeah, I doubt they make that mistake again.

[Jackpine Radical]

10. You mean next time they'll wait

until after the recipient has been involved in killing a few million people, like Kissinger?

[liberal_at_heart]

15. They have obviously made a couple of mistakes but all in all they usually do pick

people who really do further the cause of peace.

[Bay Boy]

3. And he has the Nobel Peace prize

to prove it.

[sibelian]

4. ....I would like to accept this in the spirit it's intended.

I'm not quite sure what that spirit is.

[G_j]

6. 15 million people demonstrated before the US attacked

Iraq. The largest peace demonstration in history. Given the time frame, it would be hard to repeat, but I think it could be possible, given people's feelings across the globe about American militarism.

[Jackpine Radical]

9. I was one of the 15 million.

Or, as the NYT would have it, one of the dozens.

[tavalon]

13. Yeah, funny that, eh?

I've been in a few of those disappeared protests. At least in the sixties, the media wasn't in bed with DC so much. Nowadays, most of them are just mouthpieces. Megaphones for imperialism.

[Douglas Carpenter]

8. I think George W. Bush dd more to make war unpopular than the peace movement could ever dreamed

[leftstreet]

11. Obama should share the distinction with Bush n/t

[tavalon]

12. I was ready to put on my argue hat

Seems, we agree.

[pscot]

14. K&R

it's the age of irony.

[Jackpine Radical]

17. Satire may be dead (killed by Poe's Law) but irony thrives.

[bvar22]

20. I was ready to stomp a mudhole,

but instead,
a DURec!

Maybe he IS a "uniter".

[Jackpine Radical]

21. My username wasn't enough to clue you?

Ya also fall for Third Way Manny posts?

[marble falls]

22. Tell that to the Pakistanis, the prisoners at Gitmo, the Syrians, the Afghanis.....

[Precisely]

23. or was it the Internet?

[whatchamacallit]

24. I get it

'by accident'

[great white snark]

25. Sorry but you are sarchasm impaired.

Considering the wars he ended and his proposed nuke reductions...and you got what? Bad, bad drones? Would you prefer troops on the ground? And regarding Syria, if Obama does nothing these same people who now complain about his plan would be throwing hissy fits because he didn't intervene.

[morningfog]

27. One war has ended. One continues. One on deck.

Drones are bad. Drones or boots is a false choice.

Regarding you argument on Syria, it is not even serious enough to be addressed.

[LWolf]

29. While I think the sarcasm was right on,

your spelling impairment gave me a smile.

I'm sure it was a typo, but maybe you've created a new term.

"sarchasm:" What sounds like sarcasm, but actually displays the chasm between our government and her people.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

26. This is a Catch 22 in my estimation.

I see no good options given so much of our economy is MIC based. And Assad and Putin are tyrants. Some may love a tyrant. For the first time in my own life, I understand why.

I hold out hope for a pivot to multilateral action based on as much pressure as possible with an effort to get everyone in the Middle East involved in a "Vatican II" type conference. There needs to be a Call to Mecca for the purpose of stopping the slaughter of fellow Muslims.

That's my pitch of the day.

[blkmusclmachine]

30. OMG

[Demeter]

31. It's a "Silver Lining" Presidency

at this point, I'll take anything we can get.....

[99th_Monkey]

32. Obama said "make me" do the right thing.

Now maybe we'll see, all too soon, if he really meant it.

[zeemike]

34. You are way to optimistic my friend.

They are not through with this yet...once they start the campaign to scare the shit out of people and win them over to bombing they will fall in line as usual...at at least that is what they think.

I would love to believe that we have woken up, but I know the power of the media is real...and has always worked before.
As an example torture...we now never even think about it any more and it is probably still being used...but so many people saw programs like 24 they came to believe it was nessesary...and now it is a ho hum.