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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:07 PM Sep 2013

How hard will Obama beg to go to war?

He's going to give interviews to anyone with press credentials to be aired on Monday night's news.

He's going to take the airwaves Tuesday (day before 9/11) to beg we, the American people to give him the support to go to war. The House is going to vote against his wishes to jump into ANOTHER Middle Eastern conflict.

The cable news channels have a couple of hours of B-roll of children suffering and dying from suspected chemical attacks, that I'm sure will be background for their war coverage...as soon as they come up with a catchy name and patriotic soundtrack.

Using these war porn snuff films of kid's suffering is downright shameful. What, you say it shows what is happening and they need to be shown? Where are the videos from the past ten years of war and bombings in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen... I think that we've been responsible for a lot of the suffering in that region.

There's a saying that "It's easier to beg forgiveness than ask permission" (or something like that), and I think Obama has found that to be true. He was ready to bomb the shit out of Syria and probably could've gotten away with it, but he decided to try to ask permission and no one is giving him that permission (except for the nuts in the Senate).

So I ask you, what will we see over the next 3-5 days from the Administration? More videos of kids, more "experts" willing to pinky swear that it came from Assad, more begging and pleading, and maybe even threats about chemical weapons being used against us in shopping malls over Christmas shopping season if we dont strike now?

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How hard will Obama beg to go to war? (Original Post) NightWatcher Sep 2013 OP
drinking game on how many times Obama references "9-11" in this media blitz quinnox Sep 2013 #1
Scared yet? blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #4
"Beg"? CakeGrrl Sep 2013 #2
BHO never put this much investment into Single Payer, or fighting the GOPee. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #3
Because this is a Big Idea. Igel Sep 2013 #6
Waiting to 'war' once the poll numbers are in leftstreet Sep 2013 #5

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
2. "Beg"?
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:15 PM
Sep 2013

He's no fucking dog.

And your premise makes no sense.

If he wanted to take action, he COULD have done so without going to Congress. THEN he could have come back and explained why he did so after the fact.

But he has not done that. He has asked for Congress to vote.

Why do you think he bothered to do that? Why would a bloodthirsty warmonger pause and ask for Congressional approval?

Igel

(35,320 posts)
6. Because this is a Big Idea.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 01:21 PM
Sep 2013

There'd be *something* for health care, letting "us" take care of the poor and unfortunate. It may not be much, but we're on the right side of history. If you get something, it's an improvement. He got something. It's an improvement.

Internationally, that translated to responsibility to protect. Letting chemical weapons be used is a step backwards from the status quo. Doing nothing would be an abnegation of R2P. That's firmly on the wrong side of history because its a deterioration.

They're the same point on different levels. I think it's personal with him, as well as political. He, personally, not as the representative of the US, needs to do something--and in so doing is making the US into what he believes it used to be but never was. He's forcing evolution (and showing he wasn't a science major much less a "poly sci" major, but instead a poli sci major which translates into a non science major).

leftstreet

(36,109 posts)
5. Waiting to 'war' once the poll numbers are in
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:21 PM
Sep 2013


Nobel Peace Prize Winner, Constitutional Scholar and Community Organizer launches MIC version of Sad Dog commercials to SELL war






Shame on the lot of em
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