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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:26 AM Sep 2013

If you are represented by a liberal in the house and he/she votes yes on the AUMF

will you support that person in the 2014 elections?


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Yes, I will support my rep despite his/her vote on the AUMF
3 (27%)
No, I will not support my rep because of his/her vote on the AUMF
7 (64%)
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If you are represented by a liberal in the house and he/she votes yes on the AUMF (Original Post) cali Sep 2013 OP
as cold as it may be - I recognize that politicians are frequently under a lot of pressure to vote Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #1
I don't qualify based on the "If you are represented by a liberal in the house". pampango Sep 2013 #2
If he did, the alternative to a democrat is quite bad rurallib Sep 2013 #3
My rep is reporting 1.5% support for the war among his constituent messages Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #4
I'm represented by Mike Fitzpatrick life long demo Sep 2013 #5
Are you ready to hand Congress over to the GOP & get Obama removed from office - over Syria? baldguy Sep 2013 #6
Congress is responsible for the fallout, not the people leftstreet Sep 2013 #8
Say hello to President Boehner. baldguy Sep 2013 #9
Tell Obama and the Democrats n/t leftstreet Sep 2013 #10
Say hello to President Kick-in-the-Scrotum! MelungeonWoman Sep 2013 #38
no. I live in Vermont. Another liberal will be elected. cali Sep 2013 #11
You don't think that can change? Tennesee used to send liberals to Congress too. baldguy Sep 2013 #12
have you ever been here? No, it's not going to change anytime in the next cali Sep 2013 #13
I'm sure Al Gore's supports at home said the same thing. baldguy Sep 2013 #17
Ridiculous. Comparing TN and VT? cali Sep 2013 #19
That's it. Bury your head in the sand. baldguy Sep 2013 #20
It's not burying my head in the sand. and I sure as hell don't hate President Obama. cali Sep 2013 #36
Al PRMC Hearings Gore is Liberal? BAWHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH! ThirdWayCowplop Sep 2013 #35
And the Democrats have done such a splendid job with all of those things! YoungDemCA Sep 2013 #18
They're called "primaries," Baldguy Scootaloo Sep 2013 #26
I'm represented by a Teabagger. blue neen Sep 2013 #7
Other: I know my rep is a "no" Charles Rangel. nt stevenleser Sep 2013 #14
No Suppor vote alberto99 Sep 2013 #15
On that spreadsheet with preliminary vote counts, Rep. Maxine Waters HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #16
I don't have to deal with that. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #21
I'm voting against my representative regardless. Chan790 Sep 2013 #22
I made a post about this on RW Reps. joshcryer Sep 2013 #23
Nope and I already called Boxer's office Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #24
It depends on who is also available in 2014 and the entirety of the issues... yawnmaster Sep 2013 #25
What does AUMf mean? demosincebirth Sep 2013 #27
Authorizaton for the use of miliary force Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #28
So this is our "abortion" moment. LOL! 4bucksagallon Sep 2013 #29
I said "no," but... David__77 Sep 2013 #30
i didn't support/not support based on Libya so why should this be different JI7 Sep 2013 #31
My representative is a conservative Republican Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #32
I am represented by a conservative democrat LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #33
I already know how my rep feels customerserviceguy Sep 2013 #34
Sadly my Elected Democratic reps in Congress are not Liberal or Progressive so it does not really ThirdWayCowplop Sep 2013 #37

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
1. as cold as it may be - I recognize that politicians are frequently under a lot of pressure to vote
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:43 AM
Sep 2013

in support of their party leadership. I happen to run into my particular (runs as independent - caucuses with the Democrats) liberal Congressman - Gregorio Kilili Camacho Sablan - who represents the Northern Mariana Islands in the U.S. House of Representatives. I asked him about how he felt and how he would vote - and he said he had not decided. I recognize that he views his job as to represent the interest of the Northern Mariana Islands as best as he can. He is undoubtedly a bona fide liberal - and also an Obama loyalist. I suspect he might very well vote in the way that he feels will best strengthen the position of the Northern Marians Islands who he was reelected by an 80% margin to represent. I told him my opinion. But I think his bottom line is to look out for the interest of the Islands and if he feels that voting in favor of military intervention strengthens his ability to win more for the Islands - I suspect that is what he will do. I can forgive him for that because he is being motivated by what he considers to be his first duty which is to look out for the interest of the people who elected him to represent their interest.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
2. I don't qualify based on the "If you are represented by a liberal in the house".
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:48 AM
Sep 2013

IF I were represented by a liberal in the house in this red part of Ohio, I would definitely still support that person in 2014.

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
3. If he did, the alternative to a democrat is quite bad
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:56 AM
Sep 2013

the one announced opponent is nuts, so there isn't much alternative.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
4. My rep is reporting 1.5% support for the war among his constituent messages
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:10 AM
Sep 2013

So he's not going to vote for war. He'd be declaring surrender of his seat, he'd be impossibly unpopular.

life long demo

(1,113 posts)
5. I'm represented by Mike Fitzpatrick
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:21 AM
Sep 2013

Definitely not a liberal. But that doesn't stop me from letting him know what I think. lol

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
6. Are you ready to hand Congress over to the GOP & get Obama removed from office - over Syria?
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:17 AM
Sep 2013

Because that's exactly what will happen after 2014 if you get your way.

No more health care.
No more gay rights.
No more unions.
No more voting rights.
No more middle class.

And Syrian civilians will still be getting killed by their own govt.

leftstreet

(36,109 posts)
8. Congress is responsible for the fallout, not the people
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:20 AM
Sep 2013

If Congress goes against the public will, they're responsible for the consequences

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
9. Say hello to President Boehner.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:24 AM
Sep 2013

With GOP majorities in both Houses of Congress & the backing of the USSC.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
12. You don't think that can change? Tennesee used to send liberals to Congress too.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:33 AM
Sep 2013

So did a whole bunch of other deep Red GOP states. All that was needed was for the feds to look the other way when their buddies change the laws for free & fair elections.

Which is what the GOP is trying to do right now. And with your help, they'll do it some more.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
13. have you ever been here? No, it's not going to change anytime in the next
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 02:00 PM
Sep 2013

couple of decades.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
20. That's it. Bury your head in the sand.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 06:28 PM
Sep 2013

If your don't support liberal Democratic candidates, the GOP wins. It's as simple a that. Your wholesale, myopic hatred of Obama will hand Congress and the White House directly to people bent on destroying this country.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
36. It's not burying my head in the sand. and I sure as hell don't hate President Obama.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 08:18 AM
Sep 2013

nor do I think that your point doesn't hold true for other states, but here there is no chance at all that a republican would replace Peter Welch.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
18. And the Democrats have done such a splendid job with all of those things!
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 04:46 PM
Sep 2013

Health care, gay rights, unions, voting rights, middle class...wait, what was the question again?

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
26. They're called "primaries," Baldguy
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:44 AM
Sep 2013

See, that's when, prior to the main election, the parties have their own votes to see who the given candidate from their party will be.

In the primaries, the voters belonging to that party get to vote according to who they feel will best represent their interests and the party as a whole.

As far as I am aware, Republicans do not often seek nomination from the Democratic party, nor vice versa. i'll grant that it's not impossible, if say all the candidates stepping up for a party are so far from that party that the only choice is to endorse the opposition. But it's really, really, really uncommon.

So, would I throw out an incumbent Democrat and replace them with a more liberal candidate? Absolutely. AUMF or no, in fact, the more liberal the better.

 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
16. On that spreadsheet with preliminary vote counts, Rep. Maxine Waters
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 03:55 PM
Sep 2013

was listed as a 'yes' (even though the supporting documentation made her support seem far more ambivalent). However, if Waters does vote 'yes' (and with Boxer and Feinstein having already effectively voted 'yes'), I shall be leaving the Democratic Party for good. No GBCW posting from me; I shall probably just slip off silently into that good night and change my party registration to the Peace and Freedom Party.

I mean, really, what possible reason would there be for me to stay?

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
21. I don't have to deal with that.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 06:37 PM
Sep 2013

House rep is a Republican, and my senate delegation consists of a Republican and a conservadem.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
22. I'm voting against my representative regardless.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 07:20 PM
Sep 2013

I voted against Chris Van Hollen the last two times he was up for reelection, opting for a liberal non-green third-party candidate and an independent. It doesn't matter, he's probably the safest Democratic Rep. in the House.

His position on the AUMF (He's one of the leading officials whipping for it on both sides of the House) will not affect my vote nor will it affect his electability.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
24. Nope and I already called Boxer's office
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:07 AM
Sep 2013

and put them on notice. As one who used to work for her (non-paying position), they knew my name when I called and they were fairly stunned when I informed them that this was a deal breaker for me. I KNOW she's getting calls from all over urging her to vote "no." She did the right thing and voted "no" during the IWR and I'm hoping she comes to her senses and does the right thing here. If not, I'm done with her.

yawnmaster

(2,812 posts)
25. It depends on who is also available in 2014 and the entirety of the issues...
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:12 AM
Sep 2013

I will not be a single issue voter.
Also, it is unknown how someone not now in the house would have voted.

One must include this issue with all the other issues.

4bucksagallon

(975 posts)
29. So this is our "abortion" moment. LOL!
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 02:15 AM
Sep 2013

Change the word liberal to conservative and AUMF to abortion and you would have a winner in FreeRepublic. When did we become one issue voters like you know who?

David__77

(23,421 posts)
30. I said "no," but...
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:17 AM
Sep 2013

...I'm in a very Democratic district. If I were not, then I would not say that.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
33. I am represented by a conservative democrat
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 05:07 AM
Sep 2013

Pete Gallego

He is currently running a post on his facebook page to gauge his constituent opinion on the issue. Currently it is being overrun by Syrians telling him how to vote but before that the voters where nearly 10-1 in opposition to the war. He will still probably vote yes

Sadly living in west texas Gallego is about our only chance so I will stand behind him regardless. Anyone more liberal will either lose the primary or the general election. Either way it will be someone worse.

I HATE THE REPUGS OUT HERE!!! They are fucking nuts and I would rather support Gallego than have one of them representing me.

I am already stuck with the two worst senators in all of washington I want to keep my congressman

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
34. I already know how my rep feels
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 07:14 AM
Sep 2013

He's Eliot Engel, and the only thing he and Peter King of Long Island can agree on is using American weaponry on Islamic people every chance they get. And I know Engel's not going to suffer for it, the Jewish vote around my district is strong enough to keep him right where he is. It doesn't matter if I vote for a third-party candidate, he won't get any message from that.

 

ThirdWayCowplop

(40 posts)
37. Sadly my Elected Democratic reps in Congress are not Liberal or Progressive so it does not really
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 08:21 AM
Sep 2013

matter, I did not support them in the Primary and held my nose in the general election and voted for them. Hoping they both lose in the primary this time around so I can vote for someone of against, it would be a refreshing change!

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