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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf you are represented by a liberal in the house and he/she votes yes on the AUMF
will you support that person in the 2014 elections?
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Yes, I will support my rep despite his/her vote on the AUMF | |
3 (27%) |
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No, I will not support my rep because of his/her vote on the AUMF | |
7 (64%) |
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I haven't decided yet | |
1 (9%) |
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Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)in support of their party leadership. I happen to run into my particular (runs as independent - caucuses with the Democrats) liberal Congressman - Gregorio Kilili Camacho Sablan - who represents the Northern Mariana Islands in the U.S. House of Representatives. I asked him about how he felt and how he would vote - and he said he had not decided. I recognize that he views his job as to represent the interest of the Northern Mariana Islands as best as he can. He is undoubtedly a bona fide liberal - and also an Obama loyalist. I suspect he might very well vote in the way that he feels will best strengthen the position of the Northern Marians Islands who he was reelected by an 80% margin to represent. I told him my opinion. But I think his bottom line is to look out for the interest of the Islands and if he feels that voting in favor of military intervention strengthens his ability to win more for the Islands - I suspect that is what he will do. I can forgive him for that because he is being motivated by what he considers to be his first duty which is to look out for the interest of the people who elected him to represent their interest.
pampango
(24,692 posts)IF I were represented by a liberal in the house in this red part of Ohio, I would definitely still support that person in 2014.
rurallib
(62,423 posts)the one announced opponent is nuts, so there isn't much alternative.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)So he's not going to vote for war. He'd be declaring surrender of his seat, he'd be impossibly unpopular.
life long demo
(1,113 posts)Definitely not a liberal. But that doesn't stop me from letting him know what I think. lol
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Because that's exactly what will happen after 2014 if you get your way.
No more health care.
No more gay rights.
No more unions.
No more voting rights.
No more middle class.
And Syrian civilians will still be getting killed by their own govt.
leftstreet
(36,109 posts)If Congress goes against the public will, they're responsible for the consequences
baldguy
(36,649 posts)With GOP majorities in both Houses of Congress & the backing of the USSC.
leftstreet
(36,109 posts)MelungeonWoman
(502 posts)Kucinich could win against that Debbie Downer.
cali
(114,904 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)So did a whole bunch of other deep Red GOP states. All that was needed was for the feds to look the other way when their buddies change the laws for free & fair elections.
Which is what the GOP is trying to do right now. And with your help, they'll do it some more.
cali
(114,904 posts)couple of decades.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Patently absurd
baldguy
(36,649 posts)If your don't support liberal Democratic candidates, the GOP wins. It's as simple a that. Your wholesale, myopic hatred of Obama will hand Congress and the White House directly to people bent on destroying this country.
cali
(114,904 posts)nor do I think that your point doesn't hold true for other states, but here there is no chance at all that a republican would replace Peter Welch.
ThirdWayCowplop
(40 posts)YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)Health care, gay rights, unions, voting rights, middle class...wait, what was the question again?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)See, that's when, prior to the main election, the parties have their own votes to see who the given candidate from their party will be.
In the primaries, the voters belonging to that party get to vote according to who they feel will best represent their interests and the party as a whole.
As far as I am aware, Republicans do not often seek nomination from the Democratic party, nor vice versa. i'll grant that it's not impossible, if say all the candidates stepping up for a party are so far from that party that the only choice is to endorse the opposition. But it's really, really, really uncommon.
So, would I throw out an incumbent Democrat and replace them with a more liberal candidate? Absolutely. AUMF or no, in fact, the more liberal the better.
blue neen
(12,322 posts)Whether he votes yes or no, I will not support this person in 2014.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)alberto99
(2 posts)No, I will not support my rep because of his/her vote on the AUMF
HardTimes99
(2,049 posts)was listed as a 'yes' (even though the supporting documentation made her support seem far more ambivalent). However, if Waters does vote 'yes' (and with Boxer and Feinstein having already effectively voted 'yes'), I shall be leaving the Democratic Party for good. No GBCW posting from me; I shall probably just slip off silently into that good night and change my party registration to the Peace and Freedom Party.
I mean, really, what possible reason would there be for me to stay?
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)House rep is a Republican, and my senate delegation consists of a Republican and a conservadem.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)I voted against Chris Van Hollen the last two times he was up for reelection, opting for a liberal non-green third-party candidate and an independent. It doesn't matter, he's probably the safest Democratic Rep. in the House.
His position on the AUMF (He's one of the leading officials whipping for it on both sides of the House) will not affect my vote nor will it affect his electability.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)You stole my idea!
People called my post stupid though: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023615324
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)and put them on notice. As one who used to work for her (non-paying position), they knew my name when I called and they were fairly stunned when I informed them that this was a deal breaker for me. I KNOW she's getting calls from all over urging her to vote "no." She did the right thing and voted "no" during the IWR and I'm hoping she comes to her senses and does the right thing here. If not, I'm done with her.
yawnmaster
(2,812 posts)I will not be a single issue voter.
Also, it is unknown how someone not now in the house would have voted.
One must include this issue with all the other issues.
demosincebirth
(12,540 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)4bucksagallon
(975 posts)Change the word liberal to conservative and AUMF to abortion and you would have a winner in FreeRepublic. When did we become one issue voters like you know who?
David__77
(23,421 posts)...I'm in a very Democratic district. If I were not, then I would not say that.
JI7
(89,252 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)but he has come out against an attack.
LostOne4Ever
(9,289 posts)Pete Gallego
He is currently running a post on his facebook page to gauge his constituent opinion on the issue. Currently it is being overrun by Syrians telling him how to vote but before that the voters where nearly 10-1 in opposition to the war. He will still probably vote yes
Sadly living in west texas Gallego is about our only chance so I will stand behind him regardless. Anyone more liberal will either lose the primary or the general election. Either way it will be someone worse.
I HATE THE REPUGS OUT HERE!!! They are fucking nuts and I would rather support Gallego than have one of them representing me.
I am already stuck with the two worst senators in all of washington I want to keep my congressman
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)He's Eliot Engel, and the only thing he and Peter King of Long Island can agree on is using American weaponry on Islamic people every chance they get. And I know Engel's not going to suffer for it, the Jewish vote around my district is strong enough to keep him right where he is. It doesn't matter if I vote for a third-party candidate, he won't get any message from that.
ThirdWayCowplop
(40 posts)matter, I did not support them in the Primary and held my nose in the general election and voted for them. Hoping they both lose in the primary this time around so I can vote for someone of against, it would be a refreshing change!