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FreeState

(10,572 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 01:13 PM Sep 2013

Russia To Debate Taking Children Away From LGBT Parents

And now they are using the widely discredited anti-gay Regnerus study, paid for and commissioned by the extreme right in the US.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/russia-to-debate-taking-children-away-from-lgbt-parents

Russia’s parliament is to debate a bill that would strip LGBT parents of custody if they are found to be “promoting non-traditional relations” to their own children.

..snip...

Alexei Zhuravlyov, the far-right lawmaker who authored the bill, told the Russian news website Slon that courts would look for “clear signs” of homosexuality when deciding whether to strip parents of custody. Zhuravlyov admitted that the law would only work if “information about a parent’s sexual orientation wound up in some sort of public domain.” Appearing to allude to the common practice of gay Russians entering into straight marriages, Zhuravlyov said: “If someone hides his orientation and skulks around basements, then that’s his problem, let him remain one-on-one with that sin. It doesn’t affect society much,” he added. Law enforcement would establish a parent’s sexuality “if necessary,” he said. Widespread homophobia and incomprehension often prompt gay Russians, closeted and not, to enter into straight marriages and start families.

Zhuravlyov estimates that just between five and seven percent of Russians are gay, and about a third of that number - between 2.3 and 3.3. million people - have children. Zhuravlyov’s bill would also extend to single gay parents. Russia’s run-down orphanages already hold hundreds of thousands of children, many of whose parents are alive but unfit to parent.

“A homosexualist shouldn’t bring up a child. He perverts it. He harms him a lot more than if he were in a children’s home,” Zhuravlyov said. As evidence, Zhuravlyov’s bill cites a study by Mark Regnerus, a professor at the University of Texas at Austin, which argued that children of gay parents were as much as a third more likely to be gay than children of straight parents, and at greater risk of suicide, sexually transmitted disease, unemployment, and cheating on their partners. Regnerus’ study has been widely discredited, but Zhuravlyov wrote that it had been “carefully checked by independent experts and raises no doubts.”



From the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007043

THE CRIME OF GENOCIDE

On December 9, 1948, in the shadow of the Holocaust and in no small part due to the tireless efforts of Lemkin himself, the United Nations approved the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. This convention establishes "genocide” as an international crime, which signatory nations “undertake to prevent and punish.” It defines genocide as:
Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
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Russia To Debate Taking Children Away From LGBT Parents (Original Post) FreeState Sep 2013 OP
And it probably will happen. Seems like Putin has his distractions too. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #1
Hopefully if enough people pay attention we can stop it FreeState Sep 2013 #2
Looks like history is repeating itself. Behind the Aegis Sep 2013 #3
Honestly, it probably is just a matter of time before they get to the "jews" in Russia. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #4
Yep, both communities have it pretty bad right now FreeState Sep 2013 #5
NOM...now there is an incarnation of evil, if there ever was one! Behind the Aegis Sep 2013 #7
They have been after us for awhile. Behind the Aegis Sep 2013 #6
This is beyond disgusting LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #8
Countries that have dictators as leaders Rex Sep 2013 #9
Yet we're supposed to have Russian lawmakers DevonRex Sep 2013 #10
Kick nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #11

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
2. Hopefully if enough people pay attention we can stop it
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 02:30 PM
Sep 2013

Its like watching a train wreck about to happen but everyone is to busy focusing on everything else.

Behind the Aegis

(53,962 posts)
3. Looks like history is repeating itself.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 02:35 PM
Sep 2013

We know the world did jack shit when it was the Jews, think anyone will care/do anything now that it is gays? This has been a creeping process, and at this rate, it might not be long before we see Kristalnacht Russian-style.

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
5. Yep, both communities have it pretty bad right now
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:32 PM
Sep 2013

and it seems the anti-gays have taken NOMs play book* and are pitting the two against each other too.

(NOM has been doing this with the LGBT and black populations for several years in the US)

Behind the Aegis

(53,962 posts)
6. They have been after us for awhile.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:33 PM
Sep 2013

It is time, though, for another round of pogroms. It isn't like the Nazis didn't do a number on gays (see my avatar). We have people killing gays in Uganda, wackos in this country claiming Jews are responsible for creating gays to bring down the "white man" (see the video in the V&M group), and countries refusing to include sexual orientation in universal human rights. Then again, one only needs to look here to see some staggering homophobia and transphobia to understand, this isn't a problem relegated to Russia. Personally, I am glad President Obama met with LGBT rights activists in Russia; let them know, the US is watching.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
8. This is beyond disgusting
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 03:55 PM
Sep 2013

It boarders on cartoonish super villiany. Yet, its actually happening and is anything BUT funny.

And the Olympics are going to celebrate this country on its slow march to committing yet another genocide against LGBT community?

These people are inhuman.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. Countries that have dictators as leaders
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 04:00 PM
Sep 2013

do these kinds of things. Of course our RWing shitheads agree with them so much that Russia wants to make policy over their ideas. Our RWing shitheads would like America to be more like Russia...really speaks volumes there.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
10. Yet we're supposed to have Russian lawmakers
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 04:05 PM
Sep 2013

over here to school OUR Congress? Fuck that shit. And listen to RT and Izvestia on Syria? Come on.

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