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By Daniel Strauss
Rick Santorum regrets saying that he wanted to "throw up" in response to watching a video clip of President John F. Kennedy's 1960 speech about the separation of church and state.
"I wish I had that particular line back," Santorum said Tuesday on Laura Ingraham's radio show.
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But he was criticized for misrepresenting Kennedy's remarks. Santorum claimed Kennedy said religious people could "have no role" in the public debate, but Kennedy was actually saying he won't take orders from the Vatican if elected, several fact-checking organizations noted.
Santorum has worked to make social issues and religion a primary theme of his campaign. He recently said that President Obama's political agenda was motivated by "some phony theology, not a theology based on the Bible." Santorum later said he was not questioning the president's religion, rather, he was "talking about his world view, and the way he approaches problems in this country."
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/213005-santorum-regrets-qthrow-upq-response-to-kennedy-speech
moriah
(8,311 posts)Just a slight physical resemblance... but yowch.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)66 dmhlt
(1,941 posts)But I think you're right ...
liberal N proud
(60,344 posts)Now it is the norm.
rurallib
(62,448 posts)and run for president.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)and a media too afraid to call them out on bullshit
LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Back when there was an "Independent Media"
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Now it just doesn't matter, because none of them have the humility to give up in shame.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)Raven
(13,900 posts)right-to-life Catholic who voted Republican in every election except JFK's in 1960. I suspect that if he were alive today he'd be planning to vote for the Democrat again.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)and if I wasn't eating lunch, I'd say something else...
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)his own vomit, but he would still be sick.
Aviation Pro
(12,187 posts)...you walking sack of splooge.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Own it because it's what you really think, dickhead.
Worst. Presidential. Candidate. Ever. And this from a party that vomited up Squirmin' Herman Cain, Batshit Bachmann, pRick Perry and the Little Chimp.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)You pulled the words right put of my mouth !! :> )
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)But I can't. Sucks huh?
Beacool
(30,251 posts)The extreme right has taken hostage the Republican party. One candidate nuttier than the other: Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Gingrich, Santorum??????
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Santorum makes me want to throw up every time I hear the nonsense that comes out of his mouth.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)Hadn't "talked" to you in ages. How's life?
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)I have been working as a paraprofessional after going back to school. Plus, I have 7 and 6 year olds at home and they have tons going on too (ballet, piano lessons, homework). Luckily, I have some time to get back on DU.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)Well, I'm glad that you can find a little time to visit us.
Hugs!!!
dogknob
(2,431 posts)ReThugs have been flagrantly using the MSM to spread hateful and often violent messages to their little domestic terrorist cells, then issuing an "apology."
OK Congressman advocates "Killing a couple of Democrats..." http://www.care2.com/causes/gop-rep-says-killing-a-couple-of-democrats-only-way-to-pass-ryan-budget.html#ixzz1nKBF9TAH ... sorry.
Kansas House Speaker emails prayer for Obama's death... sorry
Just two examples...
Palin established a precedent for this with Gabby Giffords.
progressoid
(49,999 posts)Unfortunately, there is too much at stake.
dogknob
(2,431 posts)*BAP* *KICK*... I'm sorry...
These people are textbook examples of abusers.
progressoid
(49,999 posts)Otto always brings a smile!
muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/212589-santorum-continues-to-face-questions-on-nclb-vote-
He first made the 'throw up' remark in Oct 2011 - and asked about it on Sunday, he said:
SANTORUM: Because the first line, first substantive line in the speech says, "I believe in America where the separation of church and state is absolute."
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STEPHANOPOULOS: You think you wanted to throw up?
(CROSSTALK)
SANTORUM: -- the perfect remedy. Well, yes, absolutely, to say that people of faith have no role in the public square? You bet that makes you throw up. What kind of country do we live that says only people of non-faith can come into the public square and make their case? That makes me throw up and it should make every American who is seen from the president, someone who is now trying to tell people of faith that you will do what the government says, we are going to impose our values on you, not that you can't come to the public square and argue against it, but now we're going to turn around and say we're going to impose our values from the government on people of faith, which of course is the next logical step when people of faith, at least according to John Kennedy, have no role in the public square.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-rick-santorum/story?id=15785514&page=5#.T00wJqh96Sp
There's no way he can claim it was just a spur of the moment phrase - he fully backed it, on Sunday. He agreed it twice, said it twice, and even seems to say it should make every American throw up too.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)It reminds me in some ways when Romney said he doesn't care about poor people because they have a supposed safety net nor the rich because they can take care of themselves. Both were part of their respective stump speeches and the "regrets" only happened after they have been called out on it. They would have been more than happy to continue to include it in their stump speech.
barbtries
(28,811 posts)he doubled down and now he wants both of his bets back? SCREW him.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)And I bet he will do this again, on other issues.
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)At first, of course, he thought his dead-wrong reading of the speech was correct.
So, now that he's back-pedaling, I presume that maybe his arrogant ego somehow finally acknowledged some kind of feedback from an adviser about what Kennedy really meant.
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AllyCat
(16,222 posts)I'm not even going into the throwing up part...
Enrique
(27,461 posts)damn Internet!
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)He is unbalanced, too hysterical for his own good (or the good of the country), unstable, reactive, combative and mean-spirited.
His eyes roll back in his head and his mouth switches to auto-drive... he does not know or employ restraint in the moment, which is something that all mature, well-adjusted adults learn to master by the time they reach 25. He behaves like a petulant little child who can't get his way. Have you ever watched him, with the sound turned down?
He is a dangerous man who should never get close enough to the white house to catch a whiff.
LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)statements would very likely get us in BIG trouble. We're already in bad shape around the world as is . . .
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Sanctimonious Santorum is especially dangerous in that he is not only a raving zealot, but a lying demigod bastard.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Always having to fight for legislation to protect the least among us. Offering up the other cheek when someone strikes you. Casting off objects of wealth and limiting praying to private areas where nobody can see you.
Must be why I never see one.
calimary
(81,466 posts)Sheesh, raouldukelives, this just nails it. NO ONE has seen a Christian politician in a long time. In reality, they don't exist - particularly in the GOP. They're as far from true Christianity as it's possible to get.
"Always having to fight for legislation to protect the least among us. Offering up the other cheek when someone strikes you. Casting off objects of wealth and limiting praying to private areas where nobody can see you.
Must be why I never see one. "
And you won't. Not ever. Not from these people with their shitty priorities and their new "sacrament:" selfishness. Sadly, they don't recognize that THEY and those they admire are the very ones whom Jesus threw out of the Temple.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)They just know the masses will push the pedal and get the treat when they have some Frank Luntz protege whip up a Jesus laced speech for them. The only interest they have in Christ or the Constitution for that matter is as a means to an end.
"Sadly, they don't recognize that THEY and those they admire are the very ones whom Jesus threw out of the Temple."
If America ever saw a candidate who truly embodied the teachings of Christ that person would be vilified, scorned and destroyed by the media and mocked by other politicians for being an enemy of Wall St and a terrorist sympathizer. IMHO of course.
Initech
(100,102 posts)Talk about revealing one's true colors.
Blue Owl
(50,498 posts)Wow, who knew?
spanone
(135,874 posts)Fuzz
(8,827 posts)dogknob
(2,431 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)To think you have to say such outrageous things to get cheers, who are those who cheer his statements. Unfortunately those who vote. Where are their brains? It is time to put those politicans in their place and out of politics.
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)I would have no problem with him challenging Obama's worldview in secular terms...one based on sound reasoning, allocating responsibility to our allies for things in their sphere of influence, etc. But don't attack his theology simply because you don't agree with it. That is what "freedom of religion" is all about and the reason there is no religious test to hold public office in this country.
Further I would not have objected to him saying he had some concerns about Kennedy's use of the term "absolute" separation between church and state IF his intention was to say that people come to the public square with views and beliefs often informed by their religious and spiritual experiences and tenets. As a result it should be possible for their views and beliefs, so informed, to be part of the public discourse. But as I stated in a previous posting that doesn't mean you come to the public square and say you are opposed to x or y because your holy book tells you so.
In both cases had he used more rational language in expressing his views they would not have been seen as so extreme. But perhaps that is the point - he is extreme. Had he softened his comments and not reacted from the core of his frothy body, he would have been in essence lying to the American public.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)for Republicans.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Bill USA
(6,436 posts)SpankMe
(2,966 posts)But the idea that the words apply to, he still agrees with.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)He's one of the dumb ones.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)smells like a winner!
47of74
(18,470 posts)alp227
(32,052 posts)WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)DemoTex
(25,403 posts)"Fuck him."
jillan
(39,451 posts)tanyev
(42,613 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)as the Silly Party candidate
libodem
(19,288 posts)I'll bet he does. Boo Hoo. Ayatollaha Santorum. Religious Freakin' zealot. Opus Die creep. Ewwwww.
Woman hater.
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)Loudmxr
(1,405 posts)You can throw up a little in your mouth.
Vomit is spewing chunks out of your intestines.
That is the correct quote.
FU Ricky.
I still recall voting for JFK...in kindergarten. And walking over the asphalt playground to the church that is 100 yards away from where i am sitting to pray for JFK and his family on November 22, 1963.
I ran home saying "Kennedy won! Kennedy won!!" I think my joy influenced my parents to vote for JFK. Perhaps they were just smart. I love you Mommy and Daddy.
malaise
(269,157 posts)Fuck him!
rocktivity
(44,577 posts)before you started talking like The Ayatollah From Another Planet...
rocktivity
DFW
(54,437 posts)What he really meant to say was "barf." It just came out wrong.
Zambero
(8,968 posts)Q. How does a presidential primary candidate who is dead-even in the polls characterize a landmark speech made by JFK, while campaigning in a state with a considerable block of undecided Roman Catholic voters?
A. His speech made me puke! And while I'm at it, Obama is a snob for wanting your kids to complete a college education.
Fact Check: WRONG ANSWERS YOU IDIOT!
politicasista
(14,128 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)gfhrtsdfw
(20 posts)yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)Ugh.