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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWho has forgotten the Kuwati babies being thrown out of incubators to justify the 1st Iraq war?
And isnt the U.S. the country that used depleted uranium weapons in Iraq that continue to kill long after the conflict ended?
Now we have an alleged intercepted telephone call that may or may not actually implicate the Syrian government in the gas attacks. After approximately 100,000 casualties from conventional warfare, the use of chemical weapons is suddenly an excuse for the U.S. begin a bombing campaign that will only lead to more casualties.
Lets be honest about this. Any attack on Syria is not going to be about helping the Syrian people. Its going to be about the U.S. helping the rich and powerful make money off the suffering of others.
I dont know who used chemical weapons in Syria. It may have been the Syrian government, a rebel group or some other party with interests in the area. However the U.S. governments rush to judgment suggests that they dont really care.
Havent we learned anything from the similar aid given to Libyas rebels, who proved worse than the government they overthrew? If the U.S. showed the same interest in making peace as it does in making war, the world would be a much better place.
A letter from from Gary Dale to the Editor of the Toronto Star
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/letters_to_the_editors/2013/08/31/syria_history_repeating.html
With all the BS spewed out over years I forgot about the babies being flung out of incubators. THis is the same effing script.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)but to the human shredder that Saddam used.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Assad hasn't even invaded another country.
CanonRay
(14,103 posts)when it comes to military action. I've been lied to since the Gulf of Tonkin. Every fucking time.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)Not a bad performance by the Kuwait ambassador's daughter.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)The Saudi/Qatari papers where screaming headlines that Assad cut off the electricity to baby wards in hospitals and all the babies died. CNN did all they could to spread that propaganda but that was a No-Go.
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Assholes, liars, warmongers, profiteers and thieves.
eissa
(4,238 posts)waiting out the war in the nightclubs of London, or the royal family not returning until all the solid gold fixtures were back in their proper place.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)I remember it very well.
jsr
(7,712 posts)avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)"Nayirah" part 1
"Nayirah" part 2
quinnox
(20,600 posts)the heartstrings effect - "What animals! They killed babies on purpose! Let's get 'em!"
Her false testimony was used in the Congress and quoted by various Senators and Congressmen to push for the Iraq war. (The first one, not the one under Bush Jr.)
Turns out, she was the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States (who represented a country who obviously wanted the USA to intervene). At the time of her testimony, they only revealed her first name, and said they could not reveal her full name for her own protection.
It makes you wonder if this chemical attack was possibly done by the rebels, and then the rebels blamed it on Assad, because it is very much in the rebels interests to get the USA to help them militarily.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)and bragged about it. And are responsible for over 50 suicide bombings, so far. These are not nice people, to say the least. I would say they are more than capable of doing something this heinous.
QC
(26,371 posts)How well I remember that young woman's testimony before Congress, her lips quivering and voice cracking as she told the sad tale.
Then she turned out to be the Kuwaiti ambassador's daughter, and her testimony part of a campaign organized by one of DC's top lobbying firms.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)Bush senior and his people maniuplated people with stuff like that to make people see saddam as hitler II.And then after all that he leaves him In power In Iraq.He even let those who rose up against him In Iraq left to die.
The exceperence of first gulf war is reason I never trusted anything on Gulf war II and why I am skeptical on Syria.
barbtries
(28,797 posts)how many lies was it for the last war in Iraq? 954? 934? oh, here we go, 935 and counting:
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/1/24/935_lies_and_counting_study_counts
why should anybody believe what's going on now?
i know i don't - they are not trustworthy. it galls me that this time it's my president doing it. i never claimed bush.