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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
5. I have been tormenting myself for you
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 02:16 PM
Sep 2013

Normally I have a very strong stomach for wading through their bullshit but this is so obscene that I don't think even I can take it much longer. Lie after lie piled on steaming bullshit.

You made a better choice but some masochistic streak compels me to witness their complicity as long as I can.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
10. I got so mad about 15 minutes ago that I left the house
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 02:56 PM
Sep 2013

I went to buy some pork loin and I'm going to spend the morning in the kitchen angrily making up a new pasta dish.

Chuck Hagel is droning on right now. I can't take it any longer either.

Kinzinger is droning on right now about the US being paralyzed into inaction and using a picture of Syrian kids to pretend he cares. Where are the pictures of the Iraqi, Afghan, Gazan, Yemini kids?

Emotional manipulation to enrich the profiteers again. Fuck them.

The hypocrisy is too painful.

OMG, he just brought up Saddam Hussein! Who do these people represent?


Catherina

(35,568 posts)
6. Kerry is not fucking bringing up Mohammed Bouazizi (Tunisia) right now!
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 02:20 PM
Sep 2013

I can't believe my ears. How fucking dare he!

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
7. I applaud Secretary Kerry on his restraint
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 02:22 PM
Sep 2013

in not saying 1000%. Or 110% even. No, he limited himself to the completely reasonable absolute certainty of a future event.



(I'd better throw this in )

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
11. I've only been listening a few moments....Kinzinger (R-IL) holding
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 03:02 PM
Sep 2013

up pictures of unaffected (by sarin) children....could be them!

How can Kerry say the same shit a gazillion different ways is
torturous to listen to.

I spent part of the morning reading about what a bigger war
this could become if we attack Syria. As heinous as the CW
attack was it's potential to become much more involved
could bring about WWIII...imho.

The reaon I went looking is because I question the President
turning on a dime to bring in the Congress to his decision.
I am wondering if he hasn't been listening to what Russia,
Iran and Syria, in particular, have been threatening and he
needed more time to be ready in case it "implodes" as Kerry
referenced yesterday. The whole thing stinks.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
12. Grayson asked about what countries have offered to participate.
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 03:04 PM
Sep 2013

Kerry passed to Dempsey, and Dempsey wouldn't say -- classified.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
13. Kerry was also asked if rebel opposition asked for the strikes.
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 03:26 PM
Sep 2013

(I think it was Grayson who asked that too, but not sure now.)

He said "no" and didn't elaborate. He obviously didn't want any focus on that question. I want to see more info about that point somewhere.

Along with no UN backing, this is the part that bothers me the most -- the Syrians themselves do not seem to be strongly wanting us to do this.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
15. Kerry just loves to talk! Won't answer the question...I don't remember
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 04:16 PM
Sep 2013

it...brought up being raised during the cold war, 9/11, cemetaries
in France of our dead....yada, yada,,,,,,if we do not stand up now
in national security interest.....on and on....

I'd like to ask what in the hell do we do if other countries enter
the fight? WHAT THEN! Yes, I'm yelling.

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