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leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 07:51 AM Feb 2012

Rick Santorum is emotionally abusive

To other people, even the late great ones, but more to the point, his wife Karen. I have seen many emotionally abused kids and their mothers and she has many of the classic symptoms. She is gaunt in the face, never looks the interviewer in the eyes, holds her head down when she is spoken to and only says what she is told to. I have been thinking that there is something wrong with her that I could not quite pin down. I am positive I am right on this. Anyone else notice this?

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MadHound

(34,179 posts)
1. Hmm, let's see here, doesn't make eye contact, doesn't initiate conversation,
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 08:00 AM
Feb 2012

Could be she is on the Asperger/autism spectrum.

Making a psychological diagnosis via television is foolish and wrong.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
2. Nope, not wrong. I have seen too many abused women
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 08:08 AM
Feb 2012

Between teaching at risk kids who were abused and dealing with their mothers who were also abused and my volunteer work at the womens shelter, I can see the symptoms.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
3. The arrogance of making such remote diagnosis is, well, disgusting
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 08:18 AM
Feb 2012

Seriously, we've blasted Republicans and others who did the same. You aren't, I'm assuming, a psychologist or psychiatrist. You've never met this person. There is simply no way that you can make that sort of diagnosis, and if you think otherwise, you yourself are truly deluded.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
6. You know nothing about me and if you believe that someone who cares about
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 08:26 AM
Feb 2012

women who may be or are being abused are deluded, then that is what you believe. I can not help you there. You assume a great deal.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
7. And you've just made some rather sweeping accusations without knowing the OP either
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 08:30 AM
Feb 2012

I'd say your apparent arrogance at diagnosing the OP's lack of anything is every bit as bad as what you think you're attacking. When I read the OP I figured it was just an opinion being stated. And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're doing the same. Just opining. Because I'm not going to presume to know you or your educational status.

And the OP has experience with abused women and children so may possibly be right. My experience comes from having been abused, so no matter what you say, the particular behavior the OP sees in Mrs. Santorum is the same type of behavior seen in severely abused women. Does that mean she is abused? We don't know.

You don't have to be a psychologist or psychiatrist to see the signs of abuse, especially in children whom you're obligated, by law, to defend and protect, even without a degree in psychology.

Richardo

(38,391 posts)
8. I agree.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:03 AM
Feb 2012

Rick Santorum may be emotionally abusive, but there is no evidence to state that he IS emotionally abusing his family, unless you've observed that behavior, or one of them has confided in you.

Bill Frist is a medical doctor, but that doesn't mean he could accurately diagnose Terry Schiavo on video tape.

no_hypocrisy

(46,190 posts)
5. That's my experience too.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 08:24 AM
Feb 2012

My law client is a victim of domestic violence. When I started to work with her, she was nearly catatonic. She didn't appear to hear questions when asked, avoided eye contact, responded with one syllable words like a robot, apologized repeatedly when corrected. It was extremely difficult to have her participate with her case as she was afraid of making a mistake.

18 months later, several DV programs later, and under medical treatment, my client is articulate, top of her class for advanced medical vocational training. And she's days away from being divorced from her abuser.

Don't discount the idea that Mrs. Santorum may be abused. The situation isn't necessarily obvious to the naked eye.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
4. Something's really strange with her
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 08:21 AM
Feb 2012

Before she met Li'l Ricky, she was in a live in relationship with a strongly pro abortion doctor.

What makes it strange is that he was 40 years older than her.

But what makes it really strange is that he was the doctor who delivered her at birth!

The whole situation seems kind of, well, sick. I think there's a gold mine of really strange shit to be exposed here.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
9. Last night, Ed had a segment on about some idol of Santorum
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:28 AM
Feb 2012

and it made me sick to my stomach (isn't that the saying of the day?). His surname was Luke, if I remember correctly, and he ran some kind of discipline ranch for young adults. They had to roll in mud, go through all kinds of stringent exercises until some vomited. It was really strange and it haunted me all night.

I do have to agree that his kids act differently. I've watched them when they were standing behind Santorum when he was "celebrating" his glory. They had long faces, which certainly didn't fit the picture of triumph.

I have to agree (TV diagnosis aside) that there is something different with that family.

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