DeMint exposes himself

[IrishAyes]

I looked a good ways back to see if this subject had already been posted - didn't find anything - so please excuse me if I missed it. The first 2 paragraphs read thus:
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"Heritage Foundation president and former Senator Jim DeMint suggested to a town hall audience in Wilmington, Delaware Thursday that health care programs like Medicare and Medicaid are “un-American” and built on the principles of “socialism and collectivism.”

“I cannot think of anything that’s more un-American than national government-run health care,” DeMint said. “Those who believe in those principles of socialism and collectivism we’ve seen over the centuries, they see as their holy grail taking control of the health care system.”

read more:

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/08/30/2555561/jim-demint-programs-like-medicare-veterans-health-care-american-grounded-socialism/
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So - does that go for veterans also, since government deals as directly as possible with the consequences of their hazardous service? Certainly sounds like DeMint took a broad brush to everything that government touches regarding healthcare.

I HAVE TO WONDER IF THAT SOB HAS RENOUNCED HIS OWN GOVERNMENT-PROVIDED HEALTHCARE?

Yeah, right. When hell freezes over.

More and more the hypocritical Repugs let their mask slip to reveal the ugliest rot on the face of the earth. Except I begin to wonder also to what degree they remain hypocritical since lately they seem to glory in their pure evil. Mistake it not for something less.

[blkmusclmachine]

1. !

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[BetterThanNoSN]

69. WWJD??

“Those who believe in those principles of socialism and collectivism we’ve seen over the centuries, they see as their holy grail taking control of the health care system.”

Yeah, like every other country on the planet ya tool. I'm sure Jesus would support his position of not taking care of the poor and needy.

[TreasonousBastard]

2. It's been posted before, but ...

no problem reminding everyone what a useless, hypocritical shit this guy is.

[CTyankee]

3. Hey, he's laughing all the way to the bank...he gets a $1 M salary per year from Heritage...

What a deal!

[tabbycat31]

4. from your headline I thought he was the next Anthony Weiner

[IrishAyes]

9. (im)morally, he is.

[Half-Century Man]

30. I think he could send groin shots to 100,000 random people...

...and still be at a higher moral place then trying to keep a third (or forth) rate medical system the most expensive in the world; and with the added bonus of keeping the nasty poor people away from doctors.

[obxhead]

40. We're somewhere around a 27th rate HC system. nt

[pennylane100]

17. Yes, I did too.

However, I knew it sounded to good to be true.

[Liberal_in_LA]

24. me too

[Chisox08]

26. After reading the headline I got an image in my head that I can't get out

[Jefferson23]

5. It is the recipients of his message we need to try and get to, he is a tool...nothing more.

As Democrats we need to educate those who will lose what is their own best interest.

So much propaganda from this piece of shit.

[IrishAyes]

10. The SOB has certainly inspired my next letter to the papers.

[Jefferson23]

15. Yes! that is what we all need to do...clear up the lies. n/t

[No Vested Interest]

23. Go for it!

Hope you're ready for the inevitable push-back.

[IrishAyes]

31. Here in RedNeckLand where I retired,

There's always pushback, often vitriolic, sometimes threatening, occasionally dangerous. Even the few people who write me personal private notes of support don't sign their names for fear someone else might find out. On rare occasions in public, someone will look around to make sure nobody else notices and then whisper an encouraging word. But that's the best I can expect.

As for replies in the paper, the last one carried a headline in large bold font: "LYING HYENAS OF SOCIALISM!"

So yeah, I'm as ready as a person can be. I try to keep my affairs in order.

[Jefferson23]

39. Take a look at what Douglas posted earlier today. I never saw it before and I find it

to an excellent reminder and most especially an education tool for the young Republican voters who have been
brainwashed about labor and government protections. Their party were not always asshats...time to vote in your
best interest, vote, Democratic ticket.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023580503

[sheshe2]

6. Repug Hypocrisy!!@!!!!

"DeMint warned his town hall audience that the system threatens Americans’ freedoms. “[Health care is] such a personal service, it’s such a big part of the economy,” he said. “If [Democrats] can control that, they can control most areas of our lives.”

So speaks DeMint, wow wonder what he thinks about Repukes on this subject of Women's Rights! If Repukes can control that, they can control most areas of our lives.

Any questions?



Thanks Irish.

[drynberg]

27. Thanks for showing the real agenda of these RWers

The anti ACA talk is just a cover to mask these heinous anti women acts. How evil can a man be? Dunno, but here's a top contender's credentials for EVILNESS. We gotta fight these bastards every step of the way.

[MH1]

34. Excellent chart.

Unfortunately, for a certain sexist or idiot segment of the population, that looks like a "positive record of achievement".

[Cha]

7. De Mint thinks "socialism" "un-American" will make people so scared..

they will run like hell away from Medicare and Medicaid. Shows how dense he is. People's health is more important than De Mint's lies.

[Snake Plissken]

8. Senator Demint, with all due respect, your paycheck is grounded in socialism

You hypocritical piece of shit

[Lucky Luciano]

14. "with all due respect"

There is no "due respect" in this case. Feel free to piss all over him.

[Billy Love]

11. I did not need to read that headline.

that was......


ummm...

(grabs coat, leaves)

[Left Coast2020]

54. I was hoping along the line of....

..being arrested for said offense--exposing him as a regressive pervert. Damn.

[Jim Lane]

12. It's worth reminding voters that Republicans (like Reagan) opposed Medicare.

That Reagan quotation that Sarah Palin used in the 2008 Vice-Presidential debate was about his opposition to Medicare.

One of these days, you and I, are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America, when men were free.

Although Palin of course omitted the context, it was from a Reagan advocacy ad urging the defeat of this socialistic "Medicare" proposal. Story here courtesy of ThinkProgress.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

51. Hell, the American Medical Association was against Medicare.

They just knew it would destroy the medical profession.

The Repubs have been on the WRONG side of every issue for the last 150 years or so, except for slavery and women's suffrage in the 1910s.

[dbackjon]

67. And those people would be Democrats today

[MiniMe]

13. Damn, with that headline, I thought maybe an Anthony Weiner moment

[reformist2]

16. Only people who don't know their history would give up Soc Security & Medicare...

[BlueToTheBone]

18. How about his pension for being a "lawmaker"

he is so slimy that the eels are repulsed.

[Lee-Lee]

19. Your title put a horrid image in my head

[niyad]

20. k and r--this sort of vile, hateful, ignorant, blood-sucking rhetoric needs all the exposure we can

give it.

when I first saw your thread title, I was reaching for the mind bleach--THAT would be an image nobody needs!!

[IrishAyes]

21. Well, I confess to a certain amount of journalism experience

and this time went for the most salacious headline honestly possible, because I wanted more people to read it. "If it bleeds, it leads." I've written ad copy too. Hope I didn't stoop too low. Actually I consider DeMint's corruption just as bad if not worse than Weiner's. At least the latter wasn't trying to rob people.

[niyad]

22. you could not stoop low enough to make it down to their level.

[KinMd]

25. "DeMint exposes himself"...glad I wasn't around to see THAT!

[LeftishBrit]

28. The title of this news item interested me!

So not a sex scandal; just an infinite human evil scandal, garnished with a bit of hypocrisy.

[life long demo]

29. My eyes! My eyes!

[yodermon]

32. Medicare is gov't-run health INSURANCE, not care. More accurate to say he hates TRICARE

and/or the VA.

[IrishAyes]

38. Point taken. But either way, DeMint AND Cruz are slimeballs.

[Half-Century Man]

33. The things he says and doctors statistics for...

...are infinitely more offensive than any sexual peccadillo he might engage in.

Myself, I cannot conceive of any situation when his nudity would cause much more than increased pointing and laughing.

[rickford66]

35. subsidized medical insurance

Why is it never pointed out that employer provided insurance is a tax write off for the employer and thus is subsidized by the rest of us, even those of us without insurance. And of course our elected Republicans get their insurance directly from us.

[noiretextatique]

68. that's an excellent point

so quit your bitching UPS, Papa John's and the rest. health insurance costs are 100% tax-deductible for employers. and you are correct: we are ALL subsidizing health insurance costs, including those of us who don't have health insurance. ergo, the system SUCKS. medicare for all makes way too much sense.

[RevStPatrick]

36. It's really past time for people to tell these asswipes...

"Senator, I don't mind a little socialism. Particularly when it comes to expensive health care. We are a tribal species, Senator, we function best with a little collectivism. I can't think of anything more Un-American, Senator, that a man collecting a government pension telling other people what is Un-American."

Something like that...

[DinahMoeHum]

37. Methinks even the GOoPers are starting to realize. . .

that DeMint is little more than a grifter and a shakedown artist for the Heritage Foundation:

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/30/gops_destructive_grifter_jim_demint_peddles_political_poison/

Republicans are starting to realize that Jim DeMint's “Defund Obamacare” campaign is all about funding his empire

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the rising volume of grumbling about former Sen. Jim DeMint’s destructive grifting shows that some in the party recognize that his “Defund Obamacare” campaign is more about funding his empire than real political change.
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DeMint and his “Defund Obamacare” touring partner Cruz are peddling political poison to the GOP. As Republican pollster Whit Ayers told Michelle Cottle: “Shutting down the government in an effort to defund is the one way Republicans can turn Obamacare from a major plus to a major minus in the 2014 elections.” But they don’t care. Cruz is building his donor list for a potential 2016 run from the far right, while DeMint, gone from the Senate, pretends he’s going to be Senate kingmaker from his swank office at the Heritage Foundation.
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[Jack Rabbit]

41. I can think of lots of things more un-American than national health insurance

• Work by right wing groups and legislators toward excluding voters from the polls, and other forms of election fraud.
• Kill-at-will laws and the celebration by some morons of the murder of a black teenager at the hands of a redneck thug.
• Organized hate toward racial, religious or sexual minorities.
• Willfully lying about public issues in a public forum, such as global warming denial, citing non-existant WMDs or non-existant ties to terrorists as a reason to invade a foreign country, talk of "death panels" in the national health debate or, and this one is directed at Mr. DeMint and the Heritage Foundation, cooking statistics in cause of political propaganda.
• Allowing large corporations to go unregulated and steal from their customers.
• Declaring corporations to be human beings for the purpose of allowing them to enjoy not equal rights but supremacy over real human beings.
• Busing brownshirts to town hall meetings for the purpose of disrupting a public forum.
• Imperialist wars, even though we've been fighting them since 1846.
• Suppressing the right of workers to organize.
• Routine government spying on US citizens without any probable cause.

[Enthusiast]

45. PLUS A BRAZILLION! nt

[Rebellious Republican]

42. I have been avoiding a reply to this thread all day.....

because the only thing that comes to my mind when I read the headline is this.....

[mountain grammy]

52. me too.

[GeorgeGist]

43. Why should a social system have anything to do with socialism?

[tclambert]

60. Because they want to label anything for the Public Good as Socialism.

And Socialism is evil. Ronald Reagan proved that when he single-handedly defeated the Soviet Union (aka The Evil Empire).

You can look that up in your "Revised American History According to Republicans." You know, the one that says the causes of the Great Depression and the Great Recession are due to events that "no one could have foreseen," and may somehow have something to do with excessive regulations, certainly not the removal and lax enforcement of financial regulations preceding both events. Besides, only poor people (and working people) suffered during those economic downturns. All the important people did just fine. Government taking any action to help those suffering poor people? Socialism!

[Enthusiast]

44. DeMint is one of the very worst.

But they're nearly all bad.

[the_sly_pig]

46. I wonder how he feels about a Union of States....

or a State run military? These people are so stupid it boggles the mind....

[silvershadow]

47. Prior to opening this you have no idea

how badly I hoped it would say "in a park, to a cop, or a minor" or some such.

[LWolf]

48. This American

thinks socialism and collectivism are good for America and Americans.

I WISH we had government-run health care. We don't. We have government mandated private for-profit insurance.

Someday, I hope America will evolve.

[Swede Atlanta]

49. These people seem to have no appreciation for the division between private and public...

Certain basic human needs need to be safeguarded and insured by the public - food, housing and HEALTH CARE.

The rest in the open market should still be subject to reasonable regulation but open to competition.

[Blue_In_AK]

50. I almost didn't open this thread because of the visual that popped into my head.

Pretty funny thread title.

[Major Nikon]

53. There are few things more representative of collectivism than corporations

The idea that American capitalism is based solely on free market ideas is nothing more than an illusion created by the right. The lion's share of business conducted in the US is performed by corporations and the lion's share of that is performed by large corporations. Large corporations dominate the US stock market and are responsible for the vast majority of the total volume of all the major US exchanges. That's why the Dow Jones Industrial average (composed of only 30 corporations) represents the US stock market as a whole as effectively as it does.

Fundamentally there is no difference between collectivism perpetuated by the government and collectivism perpetuated by corporations. Both have the intent of benefiting the members of the collective. The only significant inherent difference is membership in one is more or less mandatory, but so what? The only people who stand to lose (or at least derive little benefit) are the uber rich, who really don't contribute a significant portion of their income to Medicare or Social Security in the first place. Furthermore even the largest corporations have proven to be far more corruptible than the government and the idea that non-government entities do things better and more efficiently than the government is nothing more than pure myth. The exact opposite is far closer to reality.

So now we are to believe Jim DeMint and the Heritage Foundation who derive almost all their money from the largest corporations when they tell us that these same collectivist corporations are greatly preferable to government collectivism when they have far less accountability and zero incentive to benefit anyone other than their shareholders, board members, and senior executives.

Fuck Jim DeMint and the horse he rode in on. Compared to his collectivist vision I'll take government collectivism every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

[Beer Swiller]

55. Ah. The old Americanism=Capitalism argument.

Got news for you, DeMint. Capitalism was in its infancy when America became a country. The dominant economic system of the time was mercantilism, if you really wanna know. And there is absolutely NOTHING unAmerican about socialism or collectivism or the very idea of coming together for the common good, or the common wealth.

That's really what won World War II, you know. The whole commonweal thing. Everybody pitch in. Rosie the Riveter. Government Issue troops. You know, like that.

It was only after World War II that capitalists successfully equated capitalism with Americanism, and then only after a decades-long campaign culminating in Reagan and his successors. Most unfortunately for this son of New Deal Democrats, they include Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, neither of whom come anywhere near the standards set by FDR.

Medicare and Medicaid were established by LBJ in his attempt to eliminate poverty. According to DeMint, eliminating poverty is Unamerican. Of course, capitalism isn't as profitable without desperately poor people to exploit, so the very idea that there should be no poverty is what Jim DeMint finds so repulsive. Medicare and Medicaid make people less desperate, and therefore less exploitable, and therefore are anti-capitalistic, which to DeMint is anti-American.

Anti-YOUR America, DeMint. Not mine.

[Rebellious Republican]

56. Beers to you friend!

Nice post.

[YOHABLO]

57. People who ride in Big SUVs with blacked out windows .. giving the homeless the finger.

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

58. My 92-year-old mother-in-law

Sole income comes from Social Security (the company she worked for all her adult life had no pension plan) and she depends on Medicare for her health insurance. So DeMint is saying, "I want the elderly to have no access to healthcare." Or, to put that more succinctly, "I despise the elderly."

[tclambert]

59. How about national self defense? Does he want to privatize the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines?

Oh, yeah. Blackwater . . . or Xe or Academi or whatever they may call themselves next week. Mercenaries.

Fortunately, the US never signed the United Nations Mercenary Convention banning the use of mercenaries, so it's all OK.

While you're at it, DeMint, how about privatizing the police? You could contract it out to OmniCorp. Turning Detroit into Delta City would make many Republicans' dreams come true.

[madrchsod]

61. there`s not one senior citizen that would give up their medicare and social security

jimmy boy needs some speech therapy

[tartan2]

62. does anyone really listen to this example of a "sick fuck"

[calimary]

63. Of course not. He's as big a moocher as any of 'em.

And he's probably got the sweetest health insurance package from his beloved Heritage Foundation now, too.

I don't think his first name is "Jim." I think it's more like "Gimme."

[lastlib]

64. I REALLY wish you would change the header on this post.....

I get a cold chill down my spine every time I get the mental image of Jim "DeMent" flashing the world......



either change it, or send me a lifetime supply of brain bleach, pls.

Would appreciate!

[madinmaryland]

65. Shit!! I was thinking the same thing...

[IrishAyes]

66. UPS should be at your door any minute now.

[Triana]

70. Spoken like a true John Bircher. If you haven't read Claire Conner's book, you must

All this rhetoric ie: “socialism and collectivism” is straight from them. Old man Koch (Fred) was one of their original founders. This shit is from the 1950s-1960s. The nation rejected such extremism then and it should again now.

http://claireconner.com/

[IrishAyes]

71. When you write 'like a true John Bircher', I trust you mean DeMint and not me!

Thank you, I'm well familiar with that crowd. They're as bad as Larouche. And why do you think I boycott my favorite beer, Coors? For political reasons. Anything that can make me quit my favorite beer is pretty serious stuff.

[Triana]

72. YES. DeMint, not you!

And only a true patriot would boycott his favorite beer for political reasons! Good on you.