So Tim Tebow is a failure. There IS justice in the Universe after all... What should he do?

[cherokeeprogressive]

Maybe he should renounce his Faith and become a DJ in a strip club. Maybe he should become an Enforcer for the Amish Mafia?

Maybe he should stand on a street corner and dare people to look the NFL's BIGGEST and BADDEST defensive linemen, linebackers, cornerbacks and safeties in the eye, put their head down, and try to run over them for first downs like he has.

Maybe he should stand on a street corner and challenge people to throw a touchdown pass on the first play of SUDDEN DEATH in an NFL playoff game against the Pittsburgh Steelers like HE did, or to even manage to work their way into that situation in the first place. Nah, too easy.

Maybe he should stand on a street corner and challenge people to win a Heisman Trophy like he did.

The hatred for his beliefs blinds people to what hard work and dedication can achieve. Hard work and dedication. NO ONE rises to the level he did without that, no matter what their beliefs are. Who knows though, maybe it's just that he's left-handed? NO amount of money, NO silver spoon can get you to that place. That's HUNDREDS of tons in the weight room. That's HUNDREDS of miles on the track. That's THOUSANDS of hours of practice. That's THOUSANDS of times getting off of your back after being knocked on your ass during practice and games, from the age of about EIGHT YEARS OLD.

Seriously though... people make me laugh. I'm amazed that hatred for The Flying Spaghetti Monster so blinds people to what hard work and dedication can do for a person that their past accomplishments are tossed by the wayside when they fail. His failure is cheered, his accomplishments, which are MANY, and pretty much legendary, are discredited because, well, he Tebows after being part of a successful play. Flying Spaghetti Monster forbid! Kneeling with your elbow on your knee and your fist on your forehead should be strictly forbidden because we all know what it means! Bad! Bad! Kids, avert your eyes!

Cheer his failure, and sleep better tonight knowing that a bitter blow has been struck for the cause. A young man whose beliefs are at odds with everyone who hates the Flying Spaghetti Monster has failed at achieving his fondest dream. Woe is him! Yay for us though, huh?! Hard work and dedication be damned, he believes in something we DON'T!

Best of luck, Tim. You WORKED for all you achieved. Thousands of hours. Before the sun rose, and after it set. It took bruises, scrapes, blood, and lots of pain for you to get where you are. Keep trying. Too bad your name isn't Clinton, huh?

[Luminous Animal]

1. If they were real Patriots, they would have released Tebow into Boston Harbor.

via twitter. And actually made me LOL.

[cherokeeprogressive]

3. What does that even mean? n/t

[NutmegYankee]

4. Tossed him overboard like British tea...

Popular theme in Boston.

[Recursion]

9. Where rich white guys protesting a tax decrease (yes, decrease)

stole private property and framed Native Americans for it.

[NutmegYankee]

41. I think everyone knew it wasn't Native Americans.

And the protest was over principle, since the Colonies had no say on the taxes. They didn't want to pay taxes to Parliment without having representatives.

[SwampG8r]

2. thank you

siyo
as a gator I am well versed on tim
he is a sweet guy who works hard and dedicates himself to challenges
he doesn't deserve anyones scorn for living his beliefs
democrats used to support living what you believed
wadoequa

[cherokeeprogressive]

8. Would that his detractors could sit with him over dinner.

I'd bet most would come away with a different opinion of him than they have now.

I have a cousin that speaks Cherokee and he never gives me a moment of peace about not learning it when we're together. It's ten times harder than Spanish or German I can tell you that.

[SwampG8r]

18. i have about ten words

and about 9 I get wrong

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

15. Matt Leinart is also a nice guy who meets many of these same descriptions.

He also won 2 national championships, a Heisman Trophy, and had a better win loss record in college than Tebow....

Like Tebow, he was also cut today, unlike Tebow he was released with very little fan fare. Point is it's obvious that Tim has used his religious beliefs to get millions of people nation wide to fight his life battles for him. This enabled him to receive several chances to make it in the NFL, chances that many other accomplished college QB's (the landscape of the sport is littered with them) never received.

[Logical]

16. I am an atheist.....

And always thought he was a nice, classy man.
No entourage, no fights at clubs. Just a nice, caring man.
Hardly a bad word about anyone.
We need more athletes like him.

[Luminous Animal]

17. "democrats used to support living what you believed" That's why Dems supported racist

and sexist, homophobics, because we are all about supporting those who live what they believe.

[SwampG8r]

19. my goodness

I didn't realize I said all that

[Luminous Animal]

25. What do you mean by this, "democrats used to support living what you believed"

[SwampG8r]

44. it means in the context of my life

the democratic party has supported citizens rights to believe what they believed and to act accordingly with those beliefs as long as no harm was done to any other citizens rights

[msongs]

5. ummm it's god's will nt

[Fumesucker]

6. Plenty of people who work just as hard and don't showboat for God also fail

But they don't have cheering sections to cry for them, they have to pick themselves up and go on without the adulation of spaghetti intoxicated followers.

[cherokeeprogressive]

11. Why do you think people who work just as hard fail?

[Fumesucker]

22. If your reach exceeds your grasp then you fail

Only Tebow can say whether he has failed or not, that is within his own heart.

[The Straight Story]

7. Meh. He went farther in football than any players I grew up with

Got people to talk about him all of the time, tons of press from the left and the right.

He is like the PETA of football players

[William769]

10. What should he do?

Isn't wall-mart looking for more greeters?

[cherokeeprogressive]

13. I don't know. Didn't Doug Flutie pretty much come to own the CFL record books?

Personally, I'd look for a job as a tight end. Tebow runs over people. He's got the size, he's got the legs, he's got the hands.

And it's not like he lacks the drive.

[SwampG8r]

23. thats what i said on his draft day

a good coach would have sat him down and shown him how he would be more able as tight end or a back
a lot of college qb's end up playing defense in the nfl or did at one time
I was hoping belichek would be the guy to make him see it

[Luminous Animal]

12. "Well, boys, the 2% have spoken. We need to get rid of Tebow lest we rile the atheists."

Are you really trying to make an argument that he was jettisoned because of his faith ?

When what? 80-90% or this country is Christian?

Are you really going to make the argument that one of the smallest ideological minorities (and a distrusted one at that) in the nation somehow influenced the Patriots to release him ?

[cherokeeprogressive]

14. NO. That's not it at all. My post wasn't about WHY he got released, it's about why

people are celebrating. Geez, you don't know me better than that?

[Luminous Animal]

24. I have to admit I was a bit confuzled over your post.

But hey, if god wanted him in the game, god would have kept him in the game.

[cherokeeprogressive]

27. Point made.

I guess I was trying to say... oh hell, I forgot what I was trying to say.

He worked his ass off. He did good. God didn't get him to where he was, he did. Maybe it wasn't good enough, but he tried, and he tried hard. That's gotta be worth something no matter what he believes in and should shine brighter than the hatred for those beliefs. I just don't like the victory dance at someone's failure, when others succeed simply because of their name.

I believe there's a... something. A "higher power". It doesn't affect my day to day actions nor do I attribute my successes or failures to that belief, but it's there. My failures are mine. My success are mine. The lottery numbers...? They'll come. I know it.

[Luminous Animal]

34. And I know so little about the man that perhaps I shouldn't be commenting!

The most I know is of him kneeling on the playing field in homage to his god. Growing up catholic, we would kneel in thanks for a success, and kneel in humbleness for a loss but, in my church, we would never display in public. For me, such a display is bragging about how much money you make.

[TlalocW]

20. You won't hear anything coming from me

I don't pay attention to professional sports nor make heroes (or demons) out of those that play them. Screw the whole lot.

TlalocW

[fishwax]

21. he's a hard worker and a fiery competitor, but he's not a very good quarterback

by NFL standards.

He's not alone in any of those characteristics, of course. But he's gotten considerably greater attention and hype than those with comparable careers in the league.

[Sunlei]

26. maybe he should bring the money home and work at, his parents private island childrens charity?

Doesn't his family own, live at and run some religious charity for several decades? Not sure about that, media doesn't go there much.

[cherokeeprogressive]

29. Couldn't tell ya. n/t

[otohara]

28. Bachelor, Dancing w/Stars, Coach@High School

all that praying didn't work so much.

Work at Starbucks and write a book how it saved your life.

[cherokeeprogressive]

30. I guess that's a start. n/t

[jmowreader]

31. People don't hate him because of his faith

They hate him because he isn't good enough of a quarterback to play that position in the NFL, and he won't play any other.

He'd be a good running back or safety. If he'd quit thinking the world revolves around Tim Tebow and take a job as a position player, he'd do well. But nooooooo...Tim has to be a quarterback, and when he's a quarterback he either wins by a field goal or loses by thirty points.

[Hobo]

32. Please explain what his talent as a QB

has to do with Clinton?

As far as what he should do next, maybe he should learn how to throw a football, read a defense, make the right decision to throw the ball?

Thats why he was cut, he can't play at a professional level, proven fact.


All the other stuff is window dressing.

Hobo

[LAGC]

33. I can't believe how many Recs this thread got!

[Cali_Democrat]

35. Hahahahahahahahaha

Tebow getting his ass cut really pissed you off, huh?

OMG.

This post is fucking hilarious.

[Inkfreak]

36. I'll bet no one typing away on an Internet forum is going to accomplish what Tebow did.

Which is most likely why they're hating on him. So he can't compete in the NFL. Big deal. It's an exclusive club that has rejected lots of talent. He did kick ass in college. I just don't get the hate. And saying its about his religion says more about the haters than him. I wish him well.

Oh yea...he also helped me win my fantasy league a few years ago. So....I'm totally on his side. $700 large that year.

[rppper]

37. My take on this.....

Tebow seems like a likable, well grounded honest individual, all showboating his faith aside. He QB'd a pitiful team to the second round of the playoffs, threw a great Hail Mary pass to defeat a atrong playoff contender, got knocked out by a dynasty team, played in the NFL( and that alone is a feat)for the better part of three seasons, has name recognition and enough cash to retire on....he already had a great college career....he has nothing to be ashamed of if he were to call it quits today. He has his health and his wits about him...he's young....he has a will to work to achieve his goals and I'm sure whatever he puts his mind too he will accomplish. We really need to stop the hatred of this guy. There are some truly dangerous and psychotic people out there in positions of power that we all should be channeling our efforts on....is Tim Tebow sanctimonious? Probably....is he dangerous? Not really....

Good luck
In your future endeavors sir!

[arely staircase]

38. he could probably make a decent second string running back in Canada

or arena football.

[MNBrewer]

39. "Worked"

A grown man earning an obscene amount of money for playing a kid's game.

[hrmjustin]

49. +1

[One of the 99]

40. Tebow should have stuck to football

and left matters of faith to ministers, priests and clerics. Instead he tried to shove his faith down everyones throat and claim it was the reason for his initial success.

[1awake]

42. I have nothing against tebow,

And like so many other people who get cut, he will either continue to try or find another field to go into. I wish him well the same way I wish all the others well. Follow your dream or find another one.

[NutmegYankee]

43. I think you don't understand why he is disliked for his actions and beliefs.

I'm a Christian myself (PCUSA). I heaped contempt on Tebow because it is very insulting to invoke God in a mere contest of athleticism. This implies that the other team was not in God's favor and that God has handed them defeat for their heathen beliefs. Come on. It's a fucking game. It's as insulting as Prosperity Gospel, where well off people believe that they are wealthy because God favors them over the poor, whom in their eyes deserves their poverty.

And on the talent front. While the man made it into the NFL, he never should have been a first round draft pick. Anyone performing that badly and being a first round pick is going to get a LOT of criticism.

[gopiscrap]

45. alright the guys an asshole

[flvegan]

46. He's no failure. If he was, none of us would know of him.

And he'd be dead, or in jail. Seems to be where too many athletes go these days.

As for his faith or beliefs, it made him an easy target for the masses to watch him fall short. Fall short of something that his haters never achieved, never could achieve, never would achieve.

I'm not a fan of his, frankly I don't like him. As I understand it (and I'll be happy to be corrected on this) he's not very glbt friendly nor pro-choice friendly. But, he's no failure. The world hasn't heard the last from him, for better or worse.

[KinMd]

47. Geez it's not like he mudered someone or trained dogs to fight

..I hope those who say he tosses God's name around too much feel the same about Ray Lewis

[hrmjustin]

48. He should go away!