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damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:10 PM Aug 2013

Global Warming is Cooking the Planet Now – Not in Some Far-Off Future

"As Bill McKibben, founder of 350.org, states in his book, Eaarth, global warming is not some far-off event that we will have to prepare for sometime in the future; it is here today and the effects of global warming are being manifested here today. Yet the oil and gas industry is pulling out all the stops to convince people that global warming is just a myth perpetrated by fuzzy headed liberals.

Extreme weather events, billion dollar weather events, are happening with increasing frequency just as Wall Street analysts are computing Big Oil’s stock price based on all the assets yet in the ground and which the industry is bound and determined to pump out on its way to becoming part of the atmosphere. If such were to be the case, kiss the earth, as a habitable place for the human species, good-bye."

In his book McKibben states:

“…global warming is no longer a philosophical threat, no longer a future threat, no longer a threat at all. It’s our reality.We’ve changed the planet, changed it in large and and fundamental ways. And these changes are far, far more evident in the toughest parts of the globe, where climate change is already wrecking thousands of lives daily. In July 2009, Oxfam released an epic report, ‘Suffering the Science,’ which concluded that even if we now adopted ‘the smartest possible curbs’ on carbon emissions, ‘the prospects are very bleak for hundreds of millions of people, most of them among the world’s poorest.’”

http://sandiegofreepress.org/2013/08/global-warming-is-cooking-the-planet-now-not-in-some-far-off-future/

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Global Warming is Cooking the Planet Now – Not in Some Far-Off Future (Original Post) damnedifIknow Aug 2013 OP
Exxon's CEO said *we* will adapt... Amonester Aug 2013 #1
Of course, what he meant isn't what most of us would think..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #4
minimizing climate change yet again? CreekDog Aug 2013 #6
he does.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #16
I don't see the problem here.....because what I said was quite valid. eom AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #20
Hi CreekDog. I see you're stalking & twisting things outta context again. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #15
You mean a hobby like Climate change denial and minimization? CreekDog Aug 2013 #18
Keep it up, bubba.....n/t AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #19
oh? should i follow your example of posting doubt about climate change CreekDog Aug 2013 #21
Funny thing is, you never seem to be able to back up these accusations of yours. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #22
What exactly does the word "adapt" mean to you? GliderGuider Aug 2013 #7
The wealthy will adapt. They'll build a space station with controlled climate Triana Aug 2013 #12
glad to be the 1st to rec this. Phlem Aug 2013 #2
If not bleak, certainly grim. WheelWalker Aug 2013 #3
Yep damnedifIknow Aug 2013 #5
You forgot Miley Cyrus! hunter Aug 2013 #17
Even though Repubies continue to lie about it. Yosemite Fire Rages. Berlum Aug 2013 #8
"Pad your portfolio and forget about global warming." raouldukelives Aug 2013 #10
Time for the all-new "Big Oil Edition" crockpot Blue Owl Aug 2013 #11
Today the heat index here hit 110... CoffeeCat Aug 2013 #13
Here in MN. we had 100 and now a storm is glinda Aug 2013 #14
And only a month ago, there were frost warnings! NickB79 Aug 2013 #23
I hear ya, neighbor! CoffeeCat Aug 2013 #25
No. Edim Aug 2013 #24

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
1. Exxon's CEO said *we* will adapt...
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:14 PM
Aug 2013

Pig said it many months ago.

With all his fortune, you think he cares?

No. He doesn't.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
4. Of course, what he meant isn't what most of us would think.....
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 01:54 AM
Aug 2013

I mean, there's no question that humanity will be able to adapt to AGW.....in fact, we wouldn't have a choice. But for quite a while, I've suspected that Tillerson's intentions were significantly different than what most people would think of as adaptation......I'm talking about what could be a veiled denial of climate change, just put into coded wording(either that, or he hopes that the worst-case scenarios come true, but the TPTB still survive just fine!).

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
6. minimizing climate change yet again?
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 10:27 AM
Aug 2013

poorly, though, very poorly.

you need a hobby --i mean a different one.

Response to Junkdrawer (Reply #9)

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
15. Hi CreekDog. I see you're stalking & twisting things outta context again.
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 09:22 PM
Aug 2013

You need a better hobby yourself, bud.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
21. oh? should i follow your example of posting doubt about climate change
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 12:01 AM
Aug 2013

and doubt about any big plans to stop climate change through big actions on our part to reduce emissions?

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
22. Funny thing is, you never seem to be able to back up these accusations of yours.
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 04:29 AM
Aug 2013

Furthermore, if ya bothered to really look, you'd know that I'm wholeheartedly supportive of actual, workable plans to reduce emissions.

This used to be a bit amusing, but now it's just annoying.....I suggest you go find someone else to obsess over, because I'm about done dealing with your shenanigans.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
7. What exactly does the word "adapt" mean to you?
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 10:47 AM
Aug 2013

Especially in the context of a world that has warmed on average by 10 to 15 degrees F, with the northern Arctic region averaging a warming of 20 to 30 F, and disrupted atmospheric Rossby waves leading to a crippled NH food production system.

Adapt? How? The only way you can postulate adaptation is to deny that such a scenario is possible, and that its probability is rising with every scientific report. Which, I think, is precisely what you do.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
12. The wealthy will adapt. They'll build a space station with controlled climate
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 01:39 PM
Aug 2013

and leave the rest of us here smoldering and dying. Elysium, anyone?

Space station or none, the rich can buy all the cooling, clean water and health care THEY need. As for the rest of us-not so much. So, yes "they" will adapt.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
2. glad to be the 1st to rec this.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:17 PM
Aug 2013

K&R

it's basic science at this point. The deniers, I don't know. Is it, let's all sit around and see if it happens, by then it's to late, or activate some grey matter and learn the science behind it. There's a worldwide community of scientist's to reaffirm the data or we can just trust preacher Grimshaw's sermon in WTF Tennessee.

jeeeeebus!

-p

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
5. Yep
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 10:24 AM
Aug 2013

While the masses chase paper around with pictures of dead people and watch people play with balls we are going to boil.

Damned if I know.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
10. "Pad your portfolio and forget about global warming."
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 11:50 AM
Aug 2013

Indeed. Every dollar in the markets is a dollar used against those championing a sustainable future for the worlds children and animals.
You can judge the depths of ones consideration for the future by the depths they support the corporate death march.

Blue Owl

(50,435 posts)
11. Time for the all-new "Big Oil Edition" crockpot
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 01:35 PM
Aug 2013

Festooned with the colorful logos of Exxon, BP, Texaco, and Shell.

And it only has one setting: HIGH.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
13. Today the heat index here hit 110...
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 09:01 PM
Aug 2013

We are broiling here in Iowa. You can barely step outside without feeling sick.

Some schools let out early and outside school sports were cancelled.

The weather forecast predicts 100+ temperatures for the next seven days, and no rain. We had
an extremely wet spring and early summer. We were almost at flood conditions. Then, the rain
stopped. I think we've had rain twice in the last six weeks. We're heading into drought conditions,
similar to the horrible conditions we had last year. Crops (soybeans and corn) are starting to
wither and turn brown.

It's total extremes here. This spring, I was sure we would see flooding again.

The weather is bipolar. Getting through this week is going to be tough for many who don't have
air conditioning.

They're predicting heat indexes of 105-110 degrees this week.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
14. Here in MN. we had 100 and now a storm is
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 09:21 PM
Aug 2013

supposed to move in. Hot and dry does not bode well for incoming storm. Our trees, plants, gardens are dying or dead or struggling...

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
23. And only a month ago, there were frost warnings!
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 07:38 AM
Aug 2013

Along the Canadian border in International Falls!

http://timsweatherblog.blogspot.com/2013/07/july-28-2013-weather-report-frost.html

Simply amazing how this summer's weather has been seesawing along.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
25. I hear ya, neighbor!
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 11:24 PM
Aug 2013

Our lawn is brown and crunchy!

So sad. You either water daily and spend a ton of money doing it---or you just give in to Mother Nature. I love a green lawn, but it was not to be this summer, that is for sure!

Edim

(300 posts)
24. No.
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 08:09 AM
Aug 2013

The longer the no warming trend gets, the shriller is the propaganda. The multidecadal oscillation changed the trend - we go down now.

http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl

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