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Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:45 AM Feb 2012

Santorum isn't scary in person

Last edited Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:56 AM - Edit history (1)

He is totally full of shit, but he works a crowd pretty well.

I just spent an hour listening to him speak. All the same old lies, nothing really new. The only real revelation is that he seems moderate when you are in a crowd of Tea Party folk.


I would say roughly 200 people in the room. Maybe half to 3/4 of the way full. He took some questions at the end but I chickened out and didn't even try. There were lots of people all trying to get him to pay attention to them so I just let it go. The first question was an obvious plant. "What can we do to help you?". Oh sure, that was a real question. Then a few questions later some nut started with the whole end times biblical crap. He avoided it pretty well by just saying that he wasn't a prophet and he just focused on what was best for this nation ... yadda yadda yadda.


I'm glad I went. I thought it would be worse but once I tuned out everything he was saying and just payed attention to his style it was very educational.

If you get a chance to go to one you should consider it.



Edit to add: MHP just showed a short clip of the rally I was at where he tries to link Rmoney to OWS.

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Santorum isn't scary in person (Original Post) Motown_Johnny Feb 2012 OP
No, he's terrifying... n/t Earth_First Feb 2012 #1
Evil is banal. Nt xchrom Feb 2012 #2
Oh dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #3
I think the difference between Santorum and some of the other Repbulican clowns Island Blue Feb 2012 #4
most of his crap is just factually incorrect Motown_Johnny Feb 2012 #10
Fortunately, PA voters dispatched of that lunatic BumRushDaShow Feb 2012 #5
I actually wish you would describe being there a little more lunatica Feb 2012 #6
The mood was upbeat Motown_Johnny Feb 2012 #9
Thanks! lunatica Feb 2012 #11
not really, it was so surreal that I kinda laughed my way home Motown_Johnny Feb 2012 #13
My impression from the videos is that he is dangerous... Frustratedlady Feb 2012 #7
Some of the very worst pipi_k Feb 2012 #8
I think these people believed this shit before he started talking. Motown_Johnny Feb 2012 #12
Met him once - had to photograph him GoneOffShore Feb 2012 #14
I thought he was more of a pencil necked little geek Motown_Johnny Feb 2012 #15
You should have asked a question TlalocW Feb 2012 #16
I had intended to, but standing in that crowd of Tea baggers changed my mind Motown_Johnny Feb 2012 #18
I'd still give him a full moon, truck nutz and all. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #17

Island Blue

(5,819 posts)
4. I think the difference between Santorum and some of the other Repbulican clowns
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:56 AM
Feb 2012

is that he really, really, really believes what he says he believes. That makes him scary IMO.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
10. most of his crap is just factually incorrect
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:53 AM
Feb 2012

when he talks about sanctions against Iran he must know that what he is saying is wrong. He can't be that uninformed. I will agree that he is a true believer when it comes to the policies he supports but he can't believe all the stuff he gets wrong. There is just to much of it for that to be the case.

BumRushDaShow

(129,543 posts)
5. Fortunately, PA voters dispatched of that lunatic
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:00 AM
Feb 2012

in 2006. He is obsessed and possessed and there is no cure for his affliction.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. I actually wish you would describe being there a little more
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:01 AM
Feb 2012

What was the overall mood of the audience? What were more of the questions like? How does he 'work the crowd'? What comments did people make while shaking his hand? Did they clap when he said crap? Did they boo in all the wrong places? Were there any real questions regarding his so-called solutions?

You only scratched the surface.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
9. The mood was upbeat
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:50 AM
Feb 2012

The questions were mostly ass kissing echo chamber shit. Only one about what he thought about Iran had any real substance and he pivoted into attacking Pres. Obama and never really answered anything.

He works the crowd by working in little jokes as he goes along. He gets a chuckle out of the crowd every 3 to 5 minutes so that it softens all his "be afraid we are under attack" talk". It keeps the crowd off balance.

I got out of there once the hand shaking started so I can't answer that. Yes they clapped a lot. Even when it was pure bull shit like "I will repeal every regulation Obama put in place on my very first day in office" (paraphrased). There were no boos at all.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
7. My impression from the videos is that he is dangerous...
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:11 AM
Feb 2012

in that he talks about some of HIS "fears" in a conspiratorial tone, which makes the people believe he is telling them a secret. This makes them believe everything he says because he is being honest with them; although he is making all this crap up. Newt does the same thing.

He appears to me to be more of a wannabe evangelist than a presidential candidate.

Pass the plate!

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
8. Some of the very worst
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:24 AM
Feb 2012

human beings have been extraordinarily good at "working a crowd" and having people believe their bullshit.

I don't trust anybody who can basically brainwash a bunch of gullible people.

Scary.


PS...although I can see your point...I guess it's always good to see what one is up against.





 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
12. I think these people believed this shit before he started talking.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:55 AM
Feb 2012

Some of them seemed even further out than he is. Compared to some of these TPers he looks like a moderate.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
15. I thought he was more of a pencil necked little geek
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 12:02 PM
Feb 2012

I was within 4 or 5 feet of him when he came down off the stage into the crowd and I didn't find him intimidating in the least. I bet he lost a lot of lunch money as a kid.

TlalocW

(15,392 posts)
16. You should have asked a question
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 12:35 PM
Feb 2012

Hell, if I ever get a chance, my question is going to be, "Since you're so interested in the sex lives of others, tell us when was the last time you had non-procreative sex?"

TlalocW

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
18. I had intended to, but standing in that crowd of Tea baggers changed my mind
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 08:32 PM
Feb 2012

and my question was going to be:


Are you aware of The Vatican's official stance on climate change and do you consider that a false theology? (he did the whole "climate change is fake" thing for about 5 minutes while the audience clapped and agreed with everything he said)


Reference:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/10/vaticanappointed-panel-wa_n_860072.html

^snip^

VATICAN CITY -- A Vatican-appointed panel of scientists has reported what climate change experts have been warning for years: the Earth is getting warmer, glaciers are melting, and urgent measures are necessary to stem the damage.

The scientists called for urgent reduction of carbon dioxide emissions and reductions in methane and other pollutants that warm the air, and for improved observation of mountain glaciers to better track their changes.

The Pontifical Academy of Sciences, a Vatican advisory panel, hosted a conference last month on the causes and consequences of retreating mountain glaciers. Its final report, dated May 5 and signed by independent glaciologists, climate scientists, meteorologists and chemists, was posted on the Vatican website Tuesday.

"We appeal to all nations to develop and implement, without delay, effective and fair policies to reduce the causes and impacts of climate change on communities and ecosystems, including mountain glaciers and their watersheds, aware that we all live in the same home," the report said.



Also:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/03/business/worldbusiness/03iht-carbon.4.7366547.html?pagewanted=all

^snip^

TISZAKESZI, Hungary — This summer the cardinals at the Vatican accepted an unusual donation from a Hungarian start-up called Klimafa: The company said it would plant trees to restore an ancient forest on a denuded island by the Tisza River to offset the Vatican's carbon emissions.

The young trees, on a 15-hectare, or 37-acre, tract of land that will be renamed the Vatican Climate Forest, will in theory absorb as much carbon dioxide as the Vatican makes through its various activities in 2007: driving cars, heating offices, lighting St. Peter's Basilica at night.

In so doing, the Vatican announced, it would become the world's first carbon-neutral state.

"As the Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI, recently stated, the international community needs to respect and encourage a 'green culture,' " said Cardinal Paul Poupard, head of the Pontifical Council for Culture, who took part in a ceremony marking the event at the Vatican. "The Book of Genesis tells us of a beginning in which God placed man as guardian over the earth to make it fruitful."

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