Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 03:06 AM Feb 2012

One hundred seventeen MILLION gallons of gas, diesel, and jet fuel exported EVERY DAY...

and that was LAST YEAR.

With a limited refining capacity (no new refineries since the 70's), how is it possible that Wall Street "speculators" in the crude oil market are the cause of high gasoline prices?

Watch Exxon-Mobil's profits...

Watch Chevron's profits... watch them all...

Then see how much they contribute to which candidate, and ask yourself... whose fingers out of our 537 national politicians are knuckle deep in that pie?

When will we get over the notion that the letter behind a politician's name means he/she is on OUR side and looking out for OUR best interests? Has the congressional insider trading bullshit been worked out yet? Of course not... we were shown a new shiny thing when the scandal broke, and most of us haven't given it a thought in more than two months.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/story/2011-12-31/united-states-export/52298812/1

10 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
One hundred seventeen MILLION gallons of gas, diesel, and jet fuel exported EVERY DAY... (Original Post) cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 OP
yeah you'd think that obama would point this out but....... nt msongs Feb 2012 #1
Well he DID offer us algae. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 #2
If Wall Street speculators really are responsible jeanpalmer Feb 2012 #3
it is a global market Motown_Johnny Feb 2012 #4
I'm not so sure about that jeanpalmer Feb 2012 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #6
watch out... Javaman Feb 2012 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #9
Why does that not surprise me... ananda Feb 2012 #7
Your headline forgot only one relevant fact "by the corporations that control the oil". jwirr Feb 2012 #10

jeanpalmer

(1,625 posts)
3. If Wall Street speculators really are responsible
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 03:49 AM
Feb 2012

then why not do something about it? The steps that can be taken to shut down the speculation are common knowledge -- like raising margin requirements and restricting trading to principals. But, as in 2008, nothing is being done -- except for a few politicians making political hay off an issue they have no intention of ever doing anything about. Anything that is that would cut off the flow of money into their campaign coffers. They'll never cut off the hand that feeds them.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
4. it is a global market
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 04:04 AM
Feb 2012

you can hurt the speculators in this country but only the ones in this country

jeanpalmer

(1,625 posts)
5. I'm not so sure about that
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 04:31 AM
Feb 2012

Raise the margin requirement in the US to 100% and see what happens to the price of oil in Asia. All these markets are interconnected to some extent at least. In the late '70's when the Hunt Brothers tried to corner the silver market, the margin requirement in the US was raised from 50% to 100% overnight without any warning. The Hunt Bros had to sell off their silver holdings to meet the new margin requirements and the price of silver worldwide collapsed within weeks.

Lending money to people to drive up the price of oil doesn't make sense to me. It's such a strategic commodity in terms of the negative effect its price can have on the economy.

Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
8. watch out...
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 10:23 AM
Feb 2012

I made this same type of argument back in '08 and got flamed big time.

addicts don't like to have their addiction pointed out to them, it makes them feel uncomfortable.

Cheers!

Response to Javaman (Reply #8)

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»One hundred seventeen MIL...