Gainesville, FL Girls leave school after racist rant on Youtube

[and ur bird can sing]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/gainesville-high-school-s_n_1290929.html?ref=black-voices&ir=Black%20Voices

I don't know how many saw this video. I just watched it this afternoon. My verdict? I don't think it's what it looks like.

These girls are from a different generation. I never say the N-word but they go to a school which is 60% Black. I am sure they hear that word being said left and right and very casually.

Their rant is more about class than race. They are decrying the dropout rate of the majority of Blacks in their school. The more vocal girl says she has a Black male friend who is the child of two surgeons. So she is looking beyond color (she's half-Cuban, by the way) but is quite insensitive about those from the lower end.

I feel a frustration about certain subgroups myself. It's not racist. It's wondering how anything will change if we just scream 'racism' any time someone brings up dysfunctional behavior like dropping out of school and having children way too young.

*Edit: Being poor does not mean that a young person is destined to drop out or make babies but since we cannot do social engineering, how do we have higher expectations for people in this category?

[msongs]

1. a rap music staple appreciated by millions...yet ppl are surprised when its used in real life nt

[and ur bird can sing]

2. Rap...and those who say it's "empowering."

Ugh.

[tkmorris]

3. Direct link to video

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I'm not entirely sure I can turn that into "someone brings up dysfunctional behavior like dropping out of school and having children way too young." and leave it there. I think there just might be a bit of racism in here too.

[EOTE]

4. If that's not racism, I don't know what is.

Just because those girls aren't dropping the N word left and right doesn't make their rant any less racist.

[HangOnKids]

5. It is Racism

This won't last long.

[Happyhippychick]

11. "certain subgroups". Oh my.

[HangOnKids]

14. WTF is a subgroup? n/t

[Liberal_in_LA]

35. it's their way of agreeing with the girls in the video

[VWolf]

37. A subgroup is

a subset of a group that preserves the group properties of closure & associativity, contains an identity element and a unique inverse for each element. (Mathematics)

That's the only racially untainted definition I can think of.

[Liberal_in_LA]

32. if a black or brown person engages in a behavior, it's a 'dysfunctional behavior' of their 'subgroup

Otherwise, it's just considered individual behavior. That's how it goes.

This video is racist crap

[and ur bird can sing]

39. Oh bullocks! Poor White people

live in rural areas usually and so are not as visible. Until we got "Jerry Springer" and if you think that people didn't find that dysfunctional, you need to get off the pipe, dewd!

[LanternWaste]

33. Being too young, to stupid, to poor, or too vapid to know better is not an excuse...

When a demographic is minimized, trivialized or insulted, and one means used of insulting that demographic is through racially charged insults, it is, by its very definition, racism.


"These girls are too young to know better..."
Being too young, to stupid, to poor, or too vapid to know better is not an excuse; rather, it is simply another problem (in addition to racism) they will have grow out of or accept the consequences for.

[EOTE]

43. It's racist and ungodly hypocritical.

Those girls BARELY had a grasp of the English language themselves, yet they had the audacity to make fun of the people in their school that didn't speak like they did.

And if they wanted to speak constructively about girls getting pregnant early, they certainly had that opportunity to. They didn't. Instead they chose to lambaste cultures that are different than their own.

I'm really amazed that I'm seeing defense of this despicable racism here.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

6.

[HangOnKids]

10. What about the "subgroups" line?

It's a veritable racist stew!

[and ur bird can sing]

18. What do you have against 'subgroups?!"

I would never say BLACK PEOPLE. I wouldn't even say lower-class BP. I say kids who grew up without proper parenting AND are poor.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

21. Why are you trying to shut down discussion about

the word subgroup? Is that part of your vendetta?

[and ur bird can sing]

12. I guess you didn't read my OP.

I said that since these girls are in the minority, they most likely have heard their Black classmates use the N-word left and right. Is it okay for the Black students to use it?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

15. Oh I stand corrected. You're one of those... "Why can't I say it?". Yeah good luck with that. nt

[and ur bird can sing]

20. Nope. I don't use the N-word. Ever.

But I decry anyone using it. I think they look so unclassy and ignorant that it's not even funny. But play the victim if it suits you...

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

23. Yeah I know. You seem like you're all class.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

7. Oh and IBTL. nt

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

17. "whatever vendetta you currently have." Projection is a common

RW trait.

[HangOnKids]

19. Vendetta?

Is ur bird as birdbrained as you?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

36. Do you know what vendetta means? Maybe start there. I have no

patience for idiots.

[HangOnKids]

44. So The Movie Was Really V for Victim?

Nice use of "tar me" (I see what you did there!) and great use of the Black slang, no really, "get down with your bad self" is so relevant! REALLY. Is this your inner Foxy Brown?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

45. .

[Happyhippychick]

53. Op used the word "bullocks" earlier. Whitey alert!

[HangOnKids]

54. Her Vendetta Made Her Say That! n/t

[Happyhippychick]

55. And now he has gone "poof"

[and ur bird can sing]

24. In the last suburb I resided

it was said that the mayor made a deal with the landlords in town and allowed a bunch of people from the projects to take over apts. that were empty in our 'hood. OMG--I saw things I never had before. Ex: Teens who would play-fight in a busy street while cars tried not to hit them!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

28. Holy shit! How did you even cope???!!!

Assclown.

[and ur bird can sing]

38. Yes they were. It was aberrant behavior.

They were numbskulls and yet it was no biggie where they came from. Perfectly normal behavior.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

41. I'm sure it was both aberrant and abhorrent

[Happyhippychick]

48. And really, really.......bad!

[Happyhippychick]

8. Excuse me? I went to a school that was more than 60% AA in the 1970's and would NEVER

have used the "n" word no matter how many times I heard it being used around me. There is an understanding that certain terms have different meaning when used by the members of society who have privilege.

The girls not only said what they did, they then put their bigotry up for the entire world to see. Disgusting behavior. And what "certain subgroups" do you have a problem with and how does their behavior affect you? How does the behavior of "certain subgroups" affect these girls such that they had to go on a public rant?

[and ur bird can sing]

16. They were dumb for posting it; that is for sure. But they're young.

The kids they see dropping out of school and making kids are in a deadend situation and creating another deadend generation. They don't see it as okay and are disgusted by that behavior. The fact that the subgroup doing it happens to be Black is besides the point.

[onenote]

47. I went to school in the 60s and 70s and, like you, would never have used the "n" word. BUT

I'm not sure I am in a position to assume my experiences from 30 or 40 years ago are at all relevant to how high schoolers perceive things and act today. I'm not trying to condone it any way, because I think its fair to say that the black kids I went to school with several decades ago wouldn't have used the 'n' word the way its used today. And while I'm reluctant to criticize the general coarsening of speech and conduct that has occurred in my lifetime for fear that I'll sound like my parents sounded when I was growing up, it is a fact that as the times change, so do behaviors, and not always for the best.

[stevenleser]

22. Obvious troll is obvious. nt

[Happyhippychick]

30. Yepper

[stevenleser]

40. Somebody alerted before me and looks like Jury deadlocked 3-3

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Thank you.

[Happyhippychick]

46. Sometimes the system doesn't work

[Dokkie]

26. I have to agree with you

I sometimes go through period were am just mad at the world, all the shooting in the black neighbor hood(I know it has a lot to do with the racist drug wars), the fights that predictably happens outside snicker stores every Christmas from people trying to buy the latest Jordan's, the high rate of teenage pregnancies, high dropout rates etc etc etc. We need to look at our selves as a people and do something to get our house in order

The main difference between me and those girls is that I am more sensitive with the subject and I will never ever put myself of tape trashing any group of people

[and ur bird can sing]

34. These girls probably have their own issues. Not very sensitive young ladies, for sure.

And they had to learn the hard way about their attitude. One girl is said to have gone into a depression over it.

It's crazy, this narcissism with technology! Andy Warhol was right about everyone's 15 minutes...

[randome]

29. Interesting post.

I can't watch the video at work but it still sounds racist to me. You bring up a valid point, though. Being poor versus being poor and black -is there a difference?

If so, why?

[CanSocDem]

42. Definitely racist.

To be honest, I couldn't watch it all. When these two morons couldn't use basic arithmetic to determine the percentage of "whites" in their own school, it was obvious that they'd have nothing intelligent to say. That they couldn't connect the dots between race and poverty may be the fault of the education system, but it is just painful to watch such uninformed hubris.

If all they were going for was to be on 'youtube' then they'll have lots of support. Thanks for posting.

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[A-Schwarzenegger]

49. Transparent Racist Oblivious Lost Louts.

Enjoy your stay.

[Happyhippychick]

51. DUZY

[HangOnKids]

52. She's On Her Way To Gainesville With A Vendetta

And she needs to pick up her daughters.

[Cali_Democrat]

50. Those girls are getting their deserved comeuppance

[A-Schwarzenegger]

56. OP is Toast.

We knew ye all too well.

EDIT: What's "lg" mean?:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=281182&sub=trans

[HangOnKids]

57. Repeat Troll SomeOne Told Me A Few Weeks Ago She Is Called Library Girl

Hence the lg.

[Rex]

58. Looks like burnt toast.

nt.