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malaise

(268,999 posts)
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:06 AM Feb 2012

Rick Insane(atorum) - Satan is taking over America - with video

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/22/10476757-santorum-warns-of-satanic-efforts-in-us
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While much of Rick Santorum's recent campaign rhetoric has caused a stir -- his Hitler analogies, his opposition to pre-natal testing, his antipathy towards public education, etc. -- it's a 2008 speech that seems to be causing the Republican presidential hopeful the most trouble right now.

Four years ago, Santorum spoke to students at a controversial Catholic law school, Ave Maria University in Florida, and as Right Wing Watch's Kyle Mantyla reported, he shared an unusual theological perspective.

The four-minute excerpt is worth checking out in its entirety, but this is the part that seems to be getting the most attention;

"This is not a political war at all. This is not a cultural war. This is a spiritual war. And the Father of Lies has his sights on what you would think the Father of Lies, Satan, would have his sights on: a good, decent, powerful, influential country -- the United States of America. If you were Satan, who would you attack in this day and age? There is no one else to go after other than the United States and that's been the case now for almost 200 years, once America's preeminence was sown by our great Founding Fathers."
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Rick Insane(atorum) - Satan is taking over America - with video (Original Post) malaise Feb 2012 OP
sounds like he'd rather be warrior1 Feb 2012 #1
If there is such a thing as tthe Father of Lies ... Loge23 Feb 2012 #2
You're 100% correct but malaise Feb 2012 #3
You must not have gotten the memo mnmoderatedem Feb 2012 #4
Will that be his response to a question about this tonight? malaise Feb 2012 #5
Across the planet, there are people in hospitals receiving treatment for mental illness BeHereNow Feb 2012 #6
You are so right malaise Feb 2012 #7
"Crazy" is accepted as the new normal. BeHereNow Feb 2012 #10
Rick "Church Lady" Santorum strikes again!!!! JoePhilly Feb 2012 #8
If he actually believes what he says, there is a strong case for mental illness. BeHereNow Feb 2012 #9
You just described everybody surfdog Feb 2012 #11
The most significant problem I see with Santorum and his ilk BeHereNow Feb 2012 #12

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
2. If there is such a thing as tthe Father of Lies ...
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:12 AM
Feb 2012

...it has surely taken over the right wing in this country.

malaise

(268,999 posts)
5. Will that be his response to a question about this tonight?
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 12:24 PM
Feb 2012

Still I have another question for him - was Satan taking over America when the one percent were kidnapping Africans, selling and enslaving them to enrich themselves?

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
6. Across the planet, there are people in hospitals receiving treatment for mental illness
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 12:32 PM
Feb 2012

Mental illness accompanied by delusion.
Yet when politicians display these symtoms, like the Indiana
lawmaker who is claiming the Girl Scouts are promoting abortion and homosexuality,
and now Santorum claiming an invisible evil force known a Satan is attacking America-
They receive no mental healthcare but are instead allowed to share their delusions over public
air waves.

Some one please explain the lack of parity here- why are these politicians
not offered medical help?

BHN
On edit:
Link to Medical diagnosis of "Delusion Disorders."
http://www.minddisorders.com/Br-Del/Delusional-disorder.html#b
Snip:
"Delusions are irrational beliefs, held with a high level of conviction, that are highly resistant to change even when the delusional person is exposed to forms of proof that contradict the belief. Non-bizarre delusions are considered to be plausible; that is, there is a possibility that what the person believes to be true could actually occur a small proportion of the time. Conversely, bizarre delusions focus on matters that would be impossible in reality. For example, a non-bizarre delusion might be the belief that one's activities are constantly under observation by federal law enforcement or intelligence agencies, which actually does occur for a small number of people. By contrast, a man who believes he is pregnant with German Shepherd puppies holds a belief that could never come to pass in reality. Also, for beliefs to be considered delusional, the content or themes of the beliefs must be uncommon in the person's culture or religion. Generally, in delusional disorder, these mistaken beliefs are organized into a consistent world-view that is logical other than being based on an improbable foundation."

Read more: Delusional disorder - define, causes, DSM, functioning, effects, therapy, paranoia, adults http://www.minddisorders.com/Br-Del/Delusional-disorder.html#b#ixzz1n86EOMwY

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
10. "Crazy" is accepted as the new normal.
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 01:17 PM
Feb 2012

The public needs to start speaking up against the media conglomerations for
normalizing delusional public figures.

By giving them air time, print and public forum, they are essentially
sending the message that this rhetoric and ranting is "normal" thinking and
expression. It is not, and it needs to be addressed.

What on earth do other countries think when they hear this
blathering of mad men in our political arena?

If you or I were to stand on a stump in our neighborhoods
proclaiming such crazy talk, some one would eventually
call the police so that we could be taken to the hospital for observation
and evaluation.

But when lawmakers and politicians display obvious symptoms
we are expected to ignore it?
WTF?

BHN

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
9. If he actually believes what he says, there is a strong case for mental illness.
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 12:47 PM
Feb 2012

People who divulge outrageous delusional thinking are
most likely to be suffering from a medical condition
known as Delusional Disorder.

See my post above for the medical definition and characteristics of the illness.

Unfortunately it appears that many people in America, most of them fringe
X-tian republicans are very ill and in a collective state of delusion.

Perhaps we should start a foundation to raise funding for their treatment?
That would be the humane thing to do.

BHN

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
12. The most significant problem I see with Santorum and his ilk
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 01:47 PM
Feb 2012

Is that they are somehow "normalized" by the media.

For instance, the goof ball in Indiana who publicly proclaimed
the Girl Scouts were involved in some nefarious plot to
promote abortion and homosexuality.

HELLO? If that is not evidence that the guy is delusional and paranoid
what exactly would constitute symptoms of mental illness in the man?

He should step down from his office and seek help.

I do not want ANY person suffering from delusions to be
in a position to make ANY decisions that could impact our country.
Been there, done that with GW who claimed God was talking to him.
Uh-huh... we saw how that turned out.

That people do not rise up against the very thought that a delusional
person could even come close to holding a public office is frightening indeed.

BHN

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