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LuckyTheDog

(6,837 posts)
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:01 AM Feb 2012

A hard line on Iran = high gas prices. Get used to it.

OK, America... do you want to be tough with Iran, or do you want low gas prices? You cannot have both. And, please, don't give me any "drill, baby drill" talk.

Domestic oil production has been growing. The U.S. is still the third-biggest oil producer in the world. But events in the Persian Gulf will have a big impact on world crude prices. There's no getting away from that.

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A hard line on Iran = high gas prices. Get used to it. (Original Post) LuckyTheDog Feb 2012 OP
makes sense, and adds another arrow to use for the war mongers quinnox Feb 2012 #1
Didn't someone from Goldman-Sachs say recently LiberalEsto Feb 2012 #2
But the speculation is helped by uncertainty in the Gulf. LuckyTheDog Feb 2012 #3
All of this speculation nonsense could be done away with tomorrow with one simple rule... markpkessinger Feb 2012 #8
Remember when wars were fought for cheap gas? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #4
Duh....yesterday??? CanSocDem Feb 2012 #6
Gasoline is the #1 export.. 99Forever Feb 2012 #5
High production costs = high gas prices bhikkhu Feb 2012 #7
gas is high to drive Obama out of office rurallib Feb 2012 #9
Looking "tough" before an election is smart politics but stupid policy. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #10
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
1. makes sense, and adds another arrow to use for the war mongers
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:05 AM
Feb 2012

to make their case. "We have to intervene in Iran, look at how high our gas prices have gone. They hate America, and are holding our country hostage with their oil!"

How conveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenient.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
2. Didn't someone from Goldman-Sachs say recently
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:07 AM
Feb 2012

that the high gas prices were due mainly to speculation?

In my opinion, the gas prices are high because of speculation (which also increased food prices last year) and because the oil barons want to make Obama look bad and lower his chances of re-election.

LuckyTheDog

(6,837 posts)
3. But the speculation is helped by uncertainty in the Gulf.
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:10 AM
Feb 2012

It helps the speculators because of concern about supply problems.

markpkessinger

(8,396 posts)
8. All of this speculation nonsense could be done away with tomorrow with one simple rule...
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:32 AM
Feb 2012

... require those who are buying on the oil market to take physical possession of the inventory. That would pretty well limit the buying to legitimate market players.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
6. Duh....yesterday???
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:16 AM
Feb 2012


Your government will do ANYTHING for "cheap gas", including killing its' own consumers.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
5. Gasoline is the #1 export..
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:14 AM
Feb 2012

.. from the USA. Domestic demand is the lowest it has been since 2007. Iran is nothing more than a convenient excuse for Big Oil to gauge consumers. Don't be fooled, they ARE ripping us off. Stop feeding their spin.

bhikkhu

(10,716 posts)
7. High production costs = high gas prices
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 11:22 AM
Feb 2012

though I suppose it depends on what one considers "high". The price has gone up more than once in the past few years due to saber-rattling in the ME, but it goes up from a relatively high floor of about $70-80 per barrel. The floor is there because of the costs of new oil field development and production.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
10. Looking "tough" before an election is smart politics but stupid policy.
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 01:27 PM
Feb 2012
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” H.L. Mencken
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