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The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 08:43 PM Feb 2012

Careful what you wish for. Santorum is a grave danger to America

There have been a number of posts in various threads and forums about how people would like to see Santorum as the Republican nominee because he is so easily beatable.

Please stop this and consider. I thought Reagan and Bush II were hopeless clowns nobody would vote for. I was wrong. Santorum is much, much worse, and we must make sure he does not occupy the White House. He is a zealous religious fascist. No major candidate in the history of our nation threatens interests he disagrees with as blindly as Santorum.

As bad as the Republican field is, none represents the fascist danger that Santorum has laid bare in the past few weeks.

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Careful what you wish for. Santorum is a grave danger to America (Original Post) The Second Stone Feb 2012 OP
But.... Turbineguy Feb 2012 #1
I completely agree with you. LisaL Feb 2012 #2
He scares me. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #3
That's an easy question, Autumn Feb 2012 #8
Exactly. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #11
He scares the fuck out of me Autumn Feb 2012 #4
he scares the bejeezuz out of me....he's a theocrat...thru & thru spanone Feb 2012 #5
Totally agree. RevStPatrick Feb 2012 #6
Exactly. LisaL Feb 2012 #9
The True Believer grasswire Feb 2012 #7
Well said. K&R Louisiana1976 Feb 2012 #10
Reagan and Bush II were the "insider's" choices. jeff47 Feb 2012 #12
Nobody said anything about cowering. LisaL Feb 2012 #14
Nobody except for the OP and most of the replies so far. jeff47 Feb 2012 #15
Nobody is cowering. LisaL Feb 2012 #20
Santorum would make a fantastic opponent jeff47 Feb 2012 #24
well exactly the GOP establishment will only fain support for him if he becomes the nominee like Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #17
With all due respect meanit Feb 2012 #22
Modern ones, yes. That's what we need to work on jeff47 Feb 2012 #25
If this country elects Santorum as POTUS, this country deserves everything that comes from it. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #13
And I used to think Nixon was bad BumRushDaShow Feb 2012 #16
It's all that air time he's getting to spew his insanity is what's scaring me. dmr Feb 2012 #18
All 3 scare me - Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum. Initech Feb 2012 #19
K&R JoeyT Feb 2012 #21
Bush may be long gone, but there is still that Supreme Court who appointed Bush rustydog Feb 2012 #23
After W, I never consider any moron beatable. aquart Feb 2012 #26

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
2. I completely agree with you.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 08:48 PM
Feb 2012

Santorum at the very least appears to be smarter than Bush, and Bush was elected twice.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
3. He scares me.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 08:53 PM
Feb 2012

But to tell the truth, they all scare me.

What's worse--a psychopath like Romney or Newt, or a psychopath with an addiction to hairshirts & chastity belts like Santrum?

Autumn

(45,084 posts)
8. That's an easy question,
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 09:05 PM
Feb 2012

a psychopath with an addiction to hairshirts & chastity belts like Santrum is a hell of a lot worse than either Romney or Newt.

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
6. Totally agree.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 09:04 PM
Feb 2012

I don't think we should "support" any candidate on the other side who we can't live with as president because we think he or she would be "easy to beat." You never know what's going to happen, and if he gets the nomination, there is always a possibility that Mr. Frothy could actually end up in the Oval.

I don't want to see Romney in the Oval either, but if that were to miraculously happen, I could live with it. Barely...

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
12. Reagan and Bush II were the "insider's" choices.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 09:13 PM
Feb 2012

Thus they had a much, much easier time covering up their deficiencies.

Santorum isn't. The "insiders" hate him. If he's the nominee, he will not be treated with the necessary deference to cover for his insanity.

We liberals need to stop cowering in fear of our opposition. If mass delusion occurs and Santorum gets sworn in, we can make the country as ungovernable as the Republicans have since 2010.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
20. Nobody is cowering.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 09:54 PM
Feb 2012

What I don't want to hear is nonsense of how Santorum would make a better opponent.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
24. Santorum would make a fantastic opponent
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:50 AM
Feb 2012

He drives away all but the religiously insane.

If your response is "but what if he wins?" then you are cowering. Might as well be worried that the sun won't come up tomorrow.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
17. well exactly the GOP establishment will only fain support for him if he becomes the nominee like
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 09:42 PM
Feb 2012

they did for Goldwater in 64 or the Democratic Party establishment did to McGovern in 72.

Furthermore both Bush Jr and Reagan had handlers who they listened to and who controlled their message, Their more controversial opinions were toned down and their social conservative message was honed and tuned to appease social conservatives in a way that avoided alienating the economic conservatives. Santorum is absolutely unrestrained in what he has to say. His positions would be fringe even in rural America.

meanit

(455 posts)
22. With all due respect
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 10:50 PM
Feb 2012

the Democrats have a very poor track record of making anything ungovernable or difficult for the Republicans. Besides, if Santorum is the nominee, he will get the right wing corporate millions behind him.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
25. Modern ones, yes. That's what we need to work on
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 10:52 AM
Feb 2012

Politicians (and supporters) who aren't terrified of being who they are.

As for corporate millions, that's not going to happen. Santorum is all about theocracy, and "big business" and theocracy aren't compatible.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
13. If this country elects Santorum as POTUS, this country deserves everything that comes from it.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 09:14 PM
Feb 2012

Might actually be the only the the religious in this country wake-up to what having a "christian nation" really means.

BumRushDaShow

(128,991 posts)
16. And I used to think Nixon was bad
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 09:41 PM
Feb 2012

Yet each successive iteration of a repuke has gotten worse and worse and worse.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
18. It's all that air time he's getting to spew his insanity is what's scaring me.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 09:42 PM
Feb 2012

All those insane ideas that he spews out every day - over and over and over again is giving license for others to spout the same kind of insanity. Look what Palin did for the discourse in this country after the 2008 campaign.

Santorum reminds me of some of the crazy fanatics that Jack McCoy would try to prosecute over the years on Law & Order - while their attorney tries to get them off due to mental deficiency. Honest, it reminds me of an episode that aired on TNT last night.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
19. All 3 scare me - Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum.
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 09:47 PM
Feb 2012

All three are just vying for the title of cirst preacher. Voting for any of them would be like voting for the Taliban.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
21. K&R
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 10:45 PM
Feb 2012

And even if someone isn't willing to admit that Santorum could beat Obama in an election, disaster can happen. Just as an example a health condition could crop up removing Obama from the race. (There's virtually no chance of it, of course. But that isn't the same thing as zero chance.) Then what? We're fucked, that's what. There's no way we could get a candidate into the race with sufficient name recognition on short notice.

At least with Romney there would be a country to take back in the next election. Yeah, it'd be worse for the wear, but it would still exist.

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