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NSA Whistleblowers Praise Snowden at GAP Whistleblower Conference
by Government Accountability Project on July 26, 2013 ( The Whistleblogger / 2013 )
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In defense of whistleblowers Snowden and Bradley Manning, ex-NSA Senior Executive Thomas Drake stated: "I stand with them without equivocation." Citing the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act, which gives the government broad authority to detain Americans deemed hostile without trial, Drake defended Snowden's actions seeking refuge abroad.
Similarly, former NSA Technical Director William Binney said: "I don't see what other choice he had ... He felt his only option was to leave the country and I don't blame him."
When confronted with the argument that Snowden was not revealing illegality and was therefore not a whistleblower, Binney responded: "If all this was legal, why did (telecom companies) need retroactive immunity?"
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"We've become the enemies we're trying to thwart," concluded former NSA official J. Kirk Wiebe. The former Senior Analyst further condemned the NSA by stating that 9/11 was the result of the organization's "self-interest, ego, and arrogance."
Thomas Drake, the most public NSA whistleblower until Snowden made his disclosures, also commented on 9/11, revealing that the NSA actively obstructed three Congressional investigations into the security failures that left the United States exposed to the attacks. Drake further revealed the agency set up a "War Room" to manage its communications with Congress.
Since 1977, the Government Accountability Project (GAP) has championed government and corporate accountability and transparency by advancing occupational free speech, defending whistleblowers, and empowering citizen activists. The mission of GAP is to make large bureaucratic institutions accountable through the effective exercise of conscience.
http://www.whistleblower.org/blog/44-2013/2851-nsa-whistleblowers-praise-snowden-at-gap-whistleblower-conference
indepat
(20,899 posts)founders? How will we know them?
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Politician who has handed the nation's economy over to the One Percent.
As a result of this handover, the bankers make 49 cents out of every dollar of profit. (In the late Seventies, early Eighties, only 8 cents went to the Big Banks.)
The Peace Dividend we could be enjoying is instead going to the military. One point two trillions of dollars annually. So much is spent on weaponry - a lot of which we give away to Israel and the UAE states. And now much of those monies will be diverted to spying on Us the People. Meanwhile, our bridges crumble; our schools lay off teachers; our fire districts are thirty percent of what they were ten years ago.
Marblehead
(1,268 posts)on us so that we can't do anything about it...
forestpath
(3,102 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Gee. That would make us, We the People, the enemy of the Secret State.
jazzimov
(1,456 posts)When confronted with the argument that Snowden was not revealing illegality and was therefore not a whistleblower, Binney responded: "If all this was legal, why did (telecom companies) need retroactive immunity?"
BECAUSE what Bush was doing WAS illegal and he forced the telecoms to be complicit. What Snowden "revealed" was perfectly legal.
Does anyone else remember? Talk about selective memory!
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Evidently, some people don't realize that they're two different people.
kas125
(2,472 posts)right or Constitutional. It was wrong then, it is wrong now. Period.
"We remember. Just because they made it "retroactively legal" didn't make it right or Constitutional. It was wrong then, it is wrong now. Period."
...it "was wrong then, it is wrong now." It was illegal then, and it's illegal now: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023026724
Conflating Bush's illegal program with the current legal program is comparing apples to oranges.
kas125
(2,472 posts)not buying it. It was wrong when it was illegal and spying on us is still wrong even when they've made it "legal."
"Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. The rest of us are not buying it. It was wrong when it was illegal and spying on us is still wrong even when they've made it 'legal.'"
...keep telling yourself" that "spying on us" is "legal."
I know it isn't. It was illegal when Bush did it, and it's still illegal.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Thanks for the Post!
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)I'm just saying.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
ProSense
(116,464 posts)...the August PDB fit into this?
johnnyreb
(915 posts)...providing lively debate within the spectrum of allowable opinion.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)and how the picture is filling out about the surveillance community. It is way past time the world had this discussion.