The guy just thought he'd help out. With bullets. Also:

[Robb]

One would-be hero brought his gun with him to the movies on the one-year anniversary of the Aurora movie theater shooting, but accidentally fired it during the show, thereby demonstrating how quick and easy it is to go from "I'll save everyone in case there's a shooter in the theater" to "Oh my God, I'm the shooter in the theater. (But I love the Constitution so much that it really shouldn't count.)"

Meanwhile, another would-be hero found himself in trouble in Milwaukee County, for firing at a suspect the police were pursuing through his neighborhood. He wasn't trying to break into our hero's property or anything. The guy just thought he'd help out. With bullets.

This week's compilation also includes two "home invasion" shootings, plus the additional invasion of a neighbor's above-ground swimming pool, and a residential fence. And speaking of homes and invasions, there was yet another case of the mistaken identification of a family member as an intruder this week, resulting in a man shooting his daughter in the eye.

The child victims of GunFAIL this week are ages 3, 4, 6, 6, 8, 9, 9, 15 and 17, and includes yet another case of a pre-school-aged boy shooting his sister, in case you thought that was terribly rare...

Read More: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/27/1225271/-GunFAIL-XXVIII

[SunSeeker]

1. And that's from just one week here in the U.S.

[Arkansas Granny]

2. That's a powerful graphic.

[napkinz]

12. See how safe guns make us!

[napkinz]

9. We're Number 1!!!!!

[awoke_in_2003]

18. I've had some low moments in life...

and have, on more than one occasion, considered ending it. Had a gun been in the house I may have.

[SunSeeker]

19. Glad you're still with us.

[awoke_in_2003]

22. Thanks...

my issues have been worked out, luckily.

[Nunliebekinder]

44. Whether or not guns are safe or make us safer is utterly irrelevant.

I don't hold safety as the highest ideal. If you do, may I suggest locking yourself in a padded room? You'll be safe from all of the scary things outside, including guns.

[SunSeeker]

79. Um no, I don't think I'm the one who should be locked in a padded room. nt

[billh58]

83. Zombies and sock puppets

certainly have a limited set of canned responses don't they?

[Nunliebekinder]

89. I'm not the one posting the same, tired comics

Over and over, somehow assuming that I'm making a novel point.

[billh58]

90. Of course you're not --

at least under this screen name...

[freshwest]

3. Just doing the right thing...

Teaching gun safety early...



Protecting the unborn...



Stopping Obama...



http://www.atheistrev.com/2013/01/the-obama-faked-newtown-to-take-our.html

[billh58]

4. But I've just been

assured by the Head Gungeoneer that the "gun problem" doesn't exist in this country, and we are just being self-delusional if we believe that anything will be changed.

Gunz are good, gunz are great, now it's time to celebrate...

[friendly_iconoclast]

66. I'm sure you firmly believe that what you just posted is true.

[billh58]

70. That is the

general theme of the Gungeon, and that resistance to the proliferation of gunz in this country is futile. Opponents to NRA/Gungeon domination will be assimilated.

Go on about your business. There is no gun problem in the United States. There is absolutely nothing you can do to stop us anyway.

Except, that there IS something that the majority of Americans can do, and responsible gun owners like Gabby Giffords are making that perfectly clear. A new generation of Americans has grown up with horrific and frequent episodes of gun violence and the highest gun death rate in the civilized world, and they WILL make their voices heard. THAT is what I firmly believe.

The days when the NRA could purchase politicians to pass obscene SYG and CCW laws and promote the lax oversight of gun buyers are coming to an end. Maybe not in my lifetime, but at least I can have the satisfaction of knowing that I helped in the fight against gun insanity.

[friendly_iconoclast]

73. I must say it's good to see you posting outside the protected enclave.

That said, can you give us an example of what you mean by "obscene...CCW laws"?

Would these be laws that have actually resulted in an increase in crime- or merely an increase
in 'pollution' by guns (as one Prohibitionist here terms it)?

[billh58]

82. Those you term "prohibitionist"

many people would call "realists." Some CCW laws are indeed obscene when they allow anyone to carry a gun in public for any reason -- mainly just because they want to. I don't believe that the Second Amendment gives blanket approval for bearing any kind of arms anyplace, anytime, for any reason. I also believe that Heller left that interpretation wide open.

That the NRA has bullied, bought, and otherwise forcefully persuaded corrupt politicians to enact lax CCW and gun buyer laws in certain parts of the country, is undeniable. Florida is a good example of bad law leading to obscene results. My state, Hawaii, on the other hand has some very sensible gun laws and practices (mandatory registration including private transfers and sales, rare issuance of CCW based on need, among other reasonable regulations) which have resulted in the lowest gun death rate in the nation.

The assertion that more gunz equals less crime is an unproven and highly suspect correlation touted by the NRA as fact. In fact, better communication between law enforcement agencies, improved forensic techniques, and a myriad of other factors have greatly contributed to a reduced crime rate over the years. CCW and SYG laws not so much.

Lastly, I actually post outside the Gun Control Reform group quite often, but it IS more civil and mature over there.

[ileus]

5. My kids and I are about to head to the range to plink with the AR and SR's

If the new SR continues to perform flawlessly it's going to become the new Home Defense pistol. I'll let the kids take turns plinking with the AR (22 conversion bolt installed) and the SR22 while I let the barrel cool down between magazines.

Wish us luck...

[secondvariety]

6. Hope no one

breaks into your house while you're gone.

[Deuce]

7. Good one...

[ileus]

23. The wife and daughter stayed behind.

She had her EDC my EDC the HD AR and Mossy at her service.

[secondvariety]

45. But, what if

the criminal had a WTF16 or a BS72? What you really need is a LOL Model 2000.

[pkdu]

72. WTF16 or BS72.....Duzy!.....nt

[Iggo]

60. EDC, unh, AR, unh-unh, MOSSSSSYYYYYYYY!!!!

Phew!

[dothemath]

64. fear

wtf are you so scared of?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

77. From my experience, a lot of gun nuts are assholes....

So there is a real fear that someone they pissed off is looking for them to give them a much deserved punch in the mouth.

[billh58]

84. Yep, it's that

"mine is bigger than yours" attitude that they can't back up without the leverage of a gun.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

85. Used to be a time when it was considered to be the sign of a wimp to hide behind a gun...

When someone said, "Let's settle this like men" it didn't mean you each whip it out to compare calibres.

[billh58]

86. I believe that wimps

continue to hide behind guns and to go on the Intertubes and brag about their calibers...

[Paladin]

8. Why do you need any luck?

Don't those firearms render you invincible?

[SunSeeker]

10. Funny, when I go to the beach with my kid, I never think to ask people to wish us luck.

Of course, no guns are involved...

[billh58]

11. And in other news,

over 200 million Americans will NOT be teaching their kids how to fire deadly weapons and kill people today.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

17. why do you hate the 2nd amendment? Gundamentalists want to know.

[ileus]

25. His rounds downrange were just for plinking...

I was working with the lifesaving firearm. Well I lie, I did let him fire 3 single shot rounds with the 45 because he like the big boomer. LOL

[ileus]

24. No wish us luck no one gets hurt...

We had a pretty good round...50 more rounds with the SR45 no issues. My son shot the SR22 60 times between cool downs for the 45. Not bad for about an hours shooting light on the farm.

[Paladin]

43. Everybody sees what you're attempting. It's not working. (nt)

[Electric Monk]

13. Good luck not shooting or being shot by your kids

That's what you asked for, right?

[Arkansas Granny]

15. +1

[ileus]

26. Exactly....you got it right.

Safe trip #1800 or so for me, safe trip #50 or so for my 8yo son. As they always say, firearms safety is no accident.

[dorkulon]

63. There's always a first time

and usually it's also the last time. Seriously, good luck.

[Robb]

16. Disgusting. Imagine a thread about a kid electrocuting herself, just one dead child.

Then imagine my only response was to type glibly about how me and my kids were gonna go re-wire the basement for the new clothes dryer, and what kind of wire we were gonna use. And then I typed "Wish us luck."

I'd sound like a fucking sociopath.

[historylovr]

21. +1

[ileus]

28. My son helped me install a new drum bearing and

heating element in the dryer Wednesday. (bearing went bad while the element was a preventive maintenance item since I had it totally torn down)

Having worked with AC from 20kv to household 120 I've taught him a healthy respect for current and voltage relationship. Of course I've also taught him the in's and out's of Mountain Biking, Road riding and motocross. Add that with his experience with firearms and he's a pretty knowledgeable little turd. Of course experience is the best teacher and everything must be reinforced with repetition for several more years. Just like in his football "career" he knows every encounter builds on the next.

[snort]

48. Well put.

[rdharma]

55. Sock ...

[rdharma]

69. Who is this "bongbong" who had y'all so thoroughly pwned?

[friendly_iconoclast]

74. Look around the basement, or perhaps on your hard drive.

You'll probably find some indication...

S'okay- the former sharesunited also stoutly denies they've returned as Loudly...

[rdharma]

75. This is why I don't trust y'all with guns.......

You "see" stuff that isn't there!

[beevul]

78. Uh huh...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=31605


Deny away.

[rdharma]

80. I see this is addressed to me..... what the heck are you babbling about?

Like I said..... they "see" stuff that isn't there!

[billh58]

87. Researching that many threads

kind of looks like obsessive/compulsive behavior doesn't it? Yet another reason why some people shouldn't have guns.

[ileus]

71. Snork....

Rd seems too intelligent to be goinggone.

[uponit7771]

91. +1

[Nanjing to Seoul]

20. there's a skill a kid will need in life. . .firing assault rifles. I'm a hunter and own six guns

and anyone with an AR is just nuts.

If I ever move back to the States and if my wife and I have children, my kids will learn how to shoot. . .hunting rifles.

Using an M4, AK-47, M-16 or anything like that to teach shooting is just stupid.

[ileus]

29. I have a 3-9x42 ordered for his 7mm-08

He's finally outgrown his red dot we've had on his deer rifle for the past three years. We'll be moving his red dot to his crossbow when the scope comes in.

We don't have any real assault rifles just you run of the mill mid grade semi-auto AR's. I've set one up for hunting with a 4x12x50 scope, one for general plinking with a simple set of open sights and CMMG 22 bolt (never fired the 556 BCG), and one for shooting 3 gun and HD use. Light recoiling, low noise, easily adjustable for all four of us makes them the perfect family fun time rifles.

[Duckhunter935]

31. That is the great think about the AR platform

Even the 5.56 is a small round and the rifle itself is modular so change the upper and have a different caliber weapon or shorter/longer barrel.

[ileus]

33. There's so many great reasons it's so popular

It's just a great general all around rifle the whole family can enjoy, at the range, in the field, or in competition. On a more serious note invest in the proper parts or brand and you can have a great home defense firearm.

[NJCher]

46. what I don't understand

Is that the world is full of beautiful things: art, nature, and animals are only a few.

Why would you choose a rifle as something "the whole family can enjoy?"

It seems to focus on death, as there is only one purpose for a rifle. Why not focus your children on the beauty of life?


Cher

[niyad]

57. makes one wonder, doesn't it?

[Duckhunter935]

62. Most people can enjoy more than one thing

[aikoaiko]

35. And the jury results are in.....

..and I was hoping for a 6-0 smackdown, but 5 - 1 is pretty good.

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[Duckhunter935]

30. like these?

http://www.remington.com/product-families/firearms/centerfire-families/autoloading-model-r-15.aspx

http://www.remington.com/en/product-families/firearms/centerfire-families/autoloading-model-r-25.aspx


Remington is excited to announce the Model R-25, a modular repeating rifle designed for big game hunters. The Model R-25 is available in 243 Win., 7mm-08 Remington and 308 Win.; three of today’s most popular short action hunting cartridges.

[friendly_iconoclast]

65. Don't kid yourself- your hunting rifles are just as deadly as any AK or AR.

Even moreso at distances much past 200 meters or so.
In fact, if your hunting rifles had been in Vietnam, they would have been Army-issue sniper rifles:



In fact, Army snipers still use what is basically a hunting rifle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M24_Sniper_Weapon_System

The M24 Sniper Weapon System (SWS) is the military and police version of the Remington 700 rifle, M24 being the model name assigned by the United States Army after adoption as their standard sniper rifle in 1988. The M24 is referred to as a "weapons system" because it consists of not only a rifle, but also a detachable telescopic sight and other accessories.

The M24 SWS had the "long-action" bolt version of the Remington 700 receiver because it originally was to use the .30-06 Springfield M72 Match cartridge. It turned out there was an insufficient amount of these rounds in a single lot of manufacture, so the operational requirement changed to use the dimensionally smaller 7.62×51mm NATO M118 Match Grade cartridge.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

88. Three of my guns are historic vintage rifles from previous wars. they cannot fire. I'm a historian

One is a 12 gauge shotgun. One is a 30-06 that I use twice a year (once to callibrate, one day to fun). The last is a .22 i used for target practice with a former army buddy,

All guns that can be fired are under lock and key with trigger locks in a locked gun case. ammo is in a different location. I have the only key. Since the vintage guns cannot be fired, they are on display.

I have taken every precaution. I have no doubt of what you say. . .but I, unlike gundamentalists, see my guns as the danger they are and act accordingly.

On top of that, when I went hunting, unlike the amateur nutjobs, I made sure I followed the idea of knowing what I was shooting at before I squeezed the trigger, to avoid shooting a deer in a red hat or a large, flesh colored squirrel.

[snort]

47. Clap Clap Clap

[Logical]

49. I am not anti-gun, but WTF would you post this here? Just to piss people off? Nice way....

to educate people. Stupid Stupid post.

[Iggo]

61. Yep, more ammo for the anti-gunfucker crowd.

[otohara]

54. Plinking - How Cute

along with all your other crazy gun talk - really adorable

[Iggo]

59. AR, SR, unh-unh-unh...

[moondust]

14. Ho hum. Collateral damage.

It's a small price to pay so that everybody can have quick-and-easy deadly force at their fingertips--anytime, anyplace. You never know when you're going to need deadly force at your fingertips.

(How do those weirdos in Britain and Japan and Australia live without it? )

[madinmaryland]

32. I see this thread has been invaded with gun porn and their purveyors.

[Doctor_J]

34. The US. Laughingstock of the civilized world

Heartfelt thanks to the nra and all the other gun nuts.

[stillwaiting]

52. All of those other countries are just jealous of our freedom.

[napkinz]

36. kick

nt

[ManiacJoe]

37. Robb, thanks for this thread.

I realize that it was not your intension, but the other folks did add a goodly amount of humor for a good laugh although that probably was not their intent either.

[Robb]

39. Yes, the Progressive Gun Squad(tm) are hilarious.

Sad to hear you find kids getting shot to be funny, though.

[ManiacJoe]

40. Sad to hear that you thought you read that.

> Sad to hear you find kids getting shot to be funny, though.

Since nothing I wrote could be even remotely interpreted that way, better luck next time.

[Robb]

41. Have you read Tom Tomorrow's "glib sociopath" toon?

It might help you understand why people might think laughing about dead people isn't actually funny.

[ManiacJoe]

42. I probably have not read it as...

... I find Tom Tomorrow neither funny nor insightful on a regular basis. Feel free to post a link.

ETA: never mind, it is posted above.

> It might help you understand why people might think laughing about dead people isn't actually funny.

If I can help explain it to you, you just need to ask. However, if you think I was laughing at the dead people, you really need to work on your reading comprehension.

[friendly_iconoclast]

67. Oh, don't be such a poopyhead; posting cartoons is fun.

It's not a bit slacktivist, no sirree-

It enables you to feel like you're actually 'done something' while providing amusement for those
that already agree with you....

[malaise]

38. Great thread as usual

I love keeping up with the responsible gun owners.

[abelenkpe]

50. K&R nt

[heaven05]

51. zimPIGS

everywhere in this ......oh what's the use, fuck civility! Stupidity, backwardness, ignorance, racism, bigotry, loss of human rights and civil and voting rights are THE hallmarks of amerikkkan culture, today. And all these are touted as exceptional and exemplary by FAUX News, RushPIG, Hannity, Beckless and the 47% that voted for romSHIT. Who could have figured with a history such as ours?

[ErikJ]

53. This thing doesnt work!

#40. JAMESTOWN, LA, 7/26/13: A Castor man lost his life today after putting a gun to his head and pulling the trigger. It wasn’t suicide. Bienville Parish Sheriff John Ballance said Seth Randall Rushing, 20, had pulled the trigger of a .22-caliber pistol four or five times but it misfired. “For whatever reason he put the gun to his head and pulled the trigger one more time and it discharged. He immediately fell to the ground,” Ballance said. Rushing had been with a group of other young men who were riding four-wheelers during the early morning hours. They returned around 2:30 a.m. to a residence on Watts Road in the Jamestown community and began unloading items from their ATVs. Rushing took the gun from his four-wheeler and attempted to fire it. When it misfired, Rushing commented to the others, “This thing doesn’t work.” And that’s when he pointed it at his head.

[rdharma]

56. Chuck D. could have predicted that would happen. nt

[Eleanors38]

58. Attention shoppers: You may resume hating. The economy is recovering.

[Scurrilous]

76. K & R

[SammyWinstonJack]

81. That's a whole lot of carelessness. With guns.

It's almost as if people don't realize that guns can be deadly.