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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 04:45 PM Jul 2013

Google Engineer Wins NSA Award, Then Says NSA Should Be Abolished

Google Engineer Wins NSA Award, Then Says NSA Should Be Abolished
He would know.

July 26, 2013

Last week, Dr. Joseph Bonneau learned that he had won the NSA’s first annual Science of Security (SoS) Competition. The competition, which aims to honor the best “scientific papers about national security” as a way to strengthen NSA collaboration with researchers in academia, honored Bonneau for his paper on the nature of passwords.

And how did Bonneau respond to being honored by the NSA? By expressing, in an honest and bittersweet blog post, his revulsion at what the NSA has become:

On a personal note, I’d be remiss not to mention my conflicted feelings about winning the award given what we know about the NSA’s widespread collection of private communications and what remains unknown about oversight over the agency’s operations. Like many in the community of cryptographers and security engineers, I’m sad that we haven’t better informed the public about the inherent dangers and questionable utility of mass surveillance. And like many American citizens I’m ashamed we’ve let our politicians sneak the country down this path.

In accepting the award I don’t condone the NSA’s surveillance.Simply put, I don’t think a free society is compatible with an organisation like the NSA in its current form.

In an interview with Andy Cush at Animal, Bonneau went even farther in his critiques of the NSA:

I’d rather have it abolished than persist in its current form. I think there’s a question about whether it’s possible to reform the NSA into something that’s more reasonable…But my feeling based on what I’ve read is that I don’t want to live in a country with an organization like the NSA is right now.

...

... the winner of the NSA award wants, like many privacy rights activists and citizens concerned with the government’s Fourth Amendment violations, for the NSA to be reformed by a political process (like the one which narrowly failed in the House yesterday).

Either that, or have it abolished altogether.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/google-engineer-wins-nsa-award-then-says-nsa-should-be-abolished
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Google Engineer Wins NSA Award, Then Says NSA Should Be Abolished (Original Post) Catherina Jul 2013 OP
Thank you Dr. Joseph Bonneau think Jul 2013 #1
K&R burnodo Jul 2013 #2
Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Jul 2013 #3
K&R I'm sure the M$M will be reporting this story.....nt snappyturtle Jul 2013 #4
It's going to get crowded under the bus. Thanks for posting rhett o rick Jul 2013 #5
Nice one. K & R You scooped me again. ;-) eom 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #6
my husband was a telecommunications engineer and says he now feels bad he was a part of liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #7
There are probably marions ghost Jul 2013 #12
We've got our own self-proclaimed experts here at DU. reusrename Jul 2013 #8
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #9
Wow great marions ghost Jul 2013 #10
Why does he hate Obama?! YoungDemCA Jul 2013 #11
K&R for truth tellers. nt Mnemosyne Jul 2013 #13
Say it with me kids! BrotherIvan Jul 2013 #14

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
7. my husband was a telecommunications engineer and says he now feels bad he was a part of
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 06:45 PM
Jul 2013

creating some of the infrastructure that makes it possible to spy on civilians' phone records.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
12. There are probably
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 10:45 PM
Jul 2013

a number of engineers and other tech heads who are feeling somewhat guilty at this point...but many didn't realize the extent of the surveillance. There's always time to speak out against it as an insider. Strangely, there don't seem to be the usual mass surveillance defenders in this thread. I wonder why...

Thanks for your post. I know there are many in the same boat. for those who don't go along. Not everybody has to do a Snowden, but not participating in it is an admirable choice, if there are any other job alternatives.

 

reusrename

(1,716 posts)
8. We've got our own self-proclaimed experts here at DU.
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 07:08 PM
Jul 2013

They refuse to believe any of this stuff.

"Where's the proof?" they ask.

It's GREAT that more folks who really know what is going on are speaking out.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
14. Say it with me kids!
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:41 PM
Jul 2013
I don’t think a free society is compatible with an organisation like the NSA in its current form.

That right there is all you need to know.
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