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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWho here has a recent passport? The new ones are quite beautiful, and meaningful.
I renewed mine a couple of months ago. This is probably my 4th passport. The pages in the current one have pictures representing the US, whether a cactus, wheat, an eagle, the Rocky Mountains, cowboys, liberty bell, Mt. Rushmore, transcontinental railroad, bears, totem poles, and space... The quotes are very inclusive, even when it comes to animal rights:
We send thanks to all the Animal life in the world. They have many things to teach us as people. We are glad they are still here, and we hope it will always be so.
--excerpt from the Thanksgiving Address, Mohawk version
I like Eisenhower's:
Whatever America hopes to bring to pass in the world must first come to pass in the heart of America.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)Hey! Hope you're doing well.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)I'm doing great here at the Arctic Circle! Lots of reindeer! We're washing the sleeping bag, and it's still in the campground drier.
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)I'm in back of the back of beyond in rural Louisiana for another 16 months.
I take a lot of bug photos. lol
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)Lots of mosquitos where I am, btw. Thank god for benedryl.
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)But it's retirement!
We've narrowed it down to Washington state or back to Germany. Depends. Anything can happen between now and then.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)Something to really look forward to (me in particular since I've been sleeping every morning until about 11:00 a.m.)
I'm looking at 2018 or 2019....either Germany or...Oregon/Washington? It will be tough to leave all this travel behind in Europe, though I love the river culture of the Pacific northwest.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)mainer
(12,022 posts)We finally caught up to Europe.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)You can still use the unchipped credit card here, but it does make sense to have them chipped and available with a pin code for security.
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nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I got to renew mine. Combined with my Mexican passports that will be like 16th travel document. My mom had the common sense to get my first when I was three and needed to travel for medical reasons.
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)you needed a passport to travel to Mexico for medical reasons?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But hey, I said I needed one to travel for medical reasons. That implies outside of Mexico. Is this to hard to comprehend?
Oh and I forgot, you do need a passport to travel to Mexico these days.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)People have been telling me for years that I should always have a valid passport.
I will get one when I know I will need it (I have no connections outside the country). If I need ID, I will use my drivers license.
There's no sense in me paying ~$100 for something that will get no use.
(I have a very old passport from when I was a child. I have not left the country since. I haven't traveled for leisure since 2005, and my travel for work is all domestic as I work in US politics).
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Since I got family outside the US and have been challenged at elections by poll workers.
I will add, as a daughter of a holocaust survivor, that is also a compulsion.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)As for voting, I'm a perennial absentee voter (I work on campaigns for a living and I'm never around to vote in person).
I also vote in a state without voter ID laws, but my drivers license should do the trick.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Whipped it out, voted, and called the registrar. Saith poll worker has not worked my precinct ever since
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)did the poll workers even know how to assess it? Great reason to keep yours updated, though.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Or to Canada or Mexico?
I love to travel now that I'm retired so I have to give up something else to do it. Maybe the OP is doing the same thing. Maybe she/he saves up money the way I do, not buying a new car or having a very reduced budget for clothes or eating out in restaurants.
Or maybe a job requires travel in foreign country. You don't know and why should you even care?
And yes, the U.S. passport is nicely designed.
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)...this extravagant travel?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)That have never ever travelled outside the US...I know, icky.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)in a super nice camper, 6.7 meters, frig, freezer, shower, 'garage' to store all the European wines.
Sleeping bag is in the drier and I'm relaxing with a dry reisling studying my cool passport.
Wish you were here!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I would not mind, but will have to pass on the Riesling. Will a late suffice? I got an espresso machine that works on the fire.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)But it's a good way to save money, when you make your own, especially in Scandinavia. Sweden is particularly expensive.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)That sounds great.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)It doesn't get dark, and the weather has been between 75-85, perfect, and unusual for these parts. Lots of reindeer, so careful driving is a must. I went to a husky farm yesterday and gave back-rubs to about 100 Alaskan/Siberian dogs and a little puppy (father unknown). Tonight I had a Finnish sauna. Saunas are everywhere.
There's a lot to do up here, summer and winter, so think about it! Finland isn't so expensive, and the people are really nice.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)Just being nasty to be nasty
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Can you explain that meaning to me?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)was that any person that requires a passport is either fabulously wealthy or travels on the taxpayer dime.
I know, made very little sense to me, either.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)That's news to me. In fact, when I had my passport stolen several years ago in Europe I had to get a train to the nearest U.S. consulate and give them $100 in cold hard cash to get an emergency passport. Since then I have always traveled abroad with enough U.S. dollars to cover the cost of one of those, just in case. But mostly I am just super careful.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)is news to me, too, and likely everyone else that has one
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Fees are listed in a pdf here:
http://travel.state.gov/pdf/PassportFeesprintable_Feb2013V3.pdf
Aerows
(39,961 posts)it certainly isn't free!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)ejpoeta
(8,933 posts)lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)it's nice to have on hand when going to the polls....$10 a year for voting security. It's a good payoff.
JI7
(89,252 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)it's called this crazy thing known as "being employed".
greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)I did stay with relatives in two countries (Luxembourg and Belgium) but there's nothing wrong or unprogressive about foreign travel. IMO, it broadens the mind and is an educational experience in many respects.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Only the very liberal, rich, coastal elite...travels unlike real Americans.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I don't know when they started that crapola, but it seemed unnecessary to me.
It's not like all of us were smuggling backbacon into the United States.
Well, sure, some of them were, but not all of us.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)Are you Sarah Palin in boy's clothing?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and travels anywhere outside of the US? Having a passport doesn't mean you are a "jetsetter" it means you've actually set foot out of the US at least once.
Revanchist
(1,375 posts)I've never had a passport but have been to Italy, Spain, Greece, France, Israel, Egypt, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Thailand, Singapore, Abu Dhabi, and Mexico. Of course, that was all due to military service, but I didn't need a passport.
LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)I need to renew mine soon.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)It's the classiest passport I've seen to date--very USA. I'm sure it must be the doing of the Obama Administration...change happens in small ways.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)It is nice - even if it came out under Bush
Last renewed mine in October 2008 and it is the "new" one
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)but whoever came up w/the idea of turning the passport into a "walk through history" in its few pages provided had a lot more foresight, creativity and American spirit than Bush ever did.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And don't live in the usual suspects. Once I got challenged.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)since only about 20% of Americans have one. Could this be another ploy by the GOP to hinder the vote of those "snooty passport carrying liberals," or whatever Sarah Pallin called us?? (She didn't have one and probably still doesn't.)
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)are the nicest group of people you can find. All are either Americans or (a few) are Canadian. We
are a little bunch of art and history nuts, way past the age where we care about what people think of us but respectful in every place we go, just squeezing every bit of travel opportunities out of each trip! Sarah Palin would HATE our company and, believe me, the feeling would be mutual!
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)Rick Steves the travel guru. I was riding my bike in a park in Norshopping, Sweden and he was walking in my direction. He smiled and moved on. I wasn't absolutely positive until I checked his website, and yes, he's in Sweden this summer, among some other countries. An exhibit of the Titanic was in town, so maybe he went to that, as I had. I'm not too familiar with his books, but I looked him up, and he gave a super interview on Salon awhile back, expressing his political views, dovetailed to travel views. I was impressed.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)At my advanced age, I prefer Road Scholar to make arrangements that I used to do...I don't like hassling with air fare and room arrangements, preferring to "curate" the art/history experience. RS lets me do that and it's liberating to me.
But, boy, do I learn a LOT from people like Rick (except that I suspect I know more about the art)...
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)RS is the Dixie Chicks of travel. Who knew?
I made the plans of this trip for the 1st three weeks as there were dates that had to be established. It took up a lot of my time for ferry schedules, meeting friends, getting married (!), etc. Now we're ad-libbing, and it sure helps to have the GPS.
We've been meeting a lot of people while camping, and we've exchanged several addresses.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)My RS trips have enriched my life in so many ways. But that is now, where I am in my life...
You are in a different time sphere and it is wonderful that you have done this! BEST of luck to you in your new married life and may you be happy forever!
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)It's my first, and I'm 60. It's his 2nd, and he's 70. We've known each other 13 years (what's wrong w/#13? . We hope, above all else, to maintain mobility in our later years so we can continue to learn and understand.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)When I went to Europe. His travel show has been on Oregon Public Broadcasting for quite some time.
I just donated to OPB and got a whole bunch of his stuff including over 100 show on DVD.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)I don't get it here.
He sounds like a very generous person and a reasonable thinker.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)They are gorgeous and it's nice to have a passport ready to go if you need it.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)the US passport looks so "top drawer" compared to everyone else's!
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)I just like to have it handy on a moment's notice should I decide to go South of the Border, Down Mexico Way.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)GentryDixon
(2,953 posts)Stupid, I know. When I renewed I had to pay like it was my first. It was over $100.00. My new photo shows an old woman, versus the hot chick on my old passport. But, I must say it is much classier.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)...and spent about $20 until I got a decent head shot in a photo automat where ALL pictures look sucky.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)somewhere for our 25th anniversary even if it is just to British Columbia. We're in WA, so we're close by.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)However, it makes me sad to hear Americans say they can't afford travel. Even the Russians get at least 5 weeks of paid vacation. I just met a computer programmer from Murmansk who was loving her time in Finland, understandably so since who the hell wants to live in Murmansk?
A couple of US college kids visited me last month, and one didn't have health insurance. That is unacceptable in the rest of the world, and it's just wrong in the US.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)I know they have gotten pricey since I last had one. What is the cost now?
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)The "rah rah USA" stuff annoys me.
This is not my blog but I agree with her. http://www.marketplace.org/topics/life/i-dont-want-ugly-american-passport
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-215_162-3414706.html
So, complaining about something so superficial as the way the passport looks might seem a little like kicking the poor schlubs in the consular service when they're down. Unfortunately, the newly redesigned U.S. passport -- that document so many folks have waited in Soviet-length lines to acquire, and which they'll no doubt thumb through as they wait in even longer queues at our borders next year -- is tacky enough to make you want to do just that. Apparently, someone forgot that passports are mainly meant to be read by, you know, foreigners. Plastered like a NASCAR vehicle with cheeseball patriotic clip-art that might have been swiped from The Colbert Report's opening credits, the new books spill jingoism the way traveling Americans once spilled hard currency.
(clip)
The problems only start once you open your passport. On the inside front cover is a Fort McHenry illustration accompanied by the last four lines of the "Star Spangled Banner," apparently in Francis Scott Key's handwriting. Why is this quotation in actual handwriting? It's unclear. Other than an inexplicably capitalized passage from the Gettysburg Address that I fear will make overseas consular officers feel as if Lincoln is shouting at them, the thirteen other inspirational quotes in the book are all printed in the same sober Times Roman-style font.
Except, of course, for the text on the page opposite the passport-holder's photo and personal information. That page contains the preamble to the constitution, complete with "We the People" in its original 18th-century typeface. It's hard to say what foreign passport-stampers are supposed to make of a preamble to a document that isn't, in fact, contained in this particular little blue book. But perhaps they'll just focus on the page's graphic elements: A fierce-looking bald eagle that takes up half the page, accompanied by smaller illustrations of grain and a flapping American flag.
The passport's subsequent pages -- the ones that are supposed to be used for foreign visas and entry stamps -- follow along with illustrations as predictable as a junior-high American-history project. Cacti! Mountains! Independence Hall! A gargantuan rendering of the Liberty Bell! The whole romantic panoply, from coast to coast. Literally: There's a New England schooner sailing through pages ten and eleven, a Mississippi paddleboat floating towards the edge of page 17, and some sort of Pacific Northwest image involving a salmon-eating bear and a totem pole on pages 24 and 25. I suppose it goes without saying that the pages in between feature cowboys, bison, a train, and the Statue of Liberty.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)except for countries like Russia. Their customs people seemed confused by all the fancy pages; they stamped me on the last one.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)Think I can sleep now.
Thanks for the great conversations, ya'll! Nite.
PS Santa sends his love.
Butterbean
(1,014 posts)All I know is I needed something RFID blocking to carry it in 'cause it's chipped. It got frisked almost as much as me on my trip overseas. Good times.
locks
(2,012 posts)I have very little money but worked hard and with help of my daughters and granddaughter have had the joy of visiting Europe, Provence, Spain, Portugal, Machu Picchu, Galapagos, Mexico, Africa and Costa Rica. Although there are some real travel hassles as you get older I know there is nothing like seeing the beauty in so many parts of the world and to learn how other people live. Highly recommend Rick Steves trips (he is on PBS TV here every week) and my friends recommend Overseas Adventure Trips. Get in shape and get a passport just in case you get the chance!
If you can't leave the country, there are so many wonderful sights and people in the US.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)jaw dropping stuff to see across the pond per the pics in the passport.
Galapagos?? In my dreams! How was Equador? I've never been to South America.
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)not even the US very much, so much world to see, so much $$$$$
I hope someday, just like I hope my career will finally happen in my 40s once I get my BA, that I can have a real job with enough income and actual 'vacay' then I could start traveling for once
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)Under one's own power and camping, prices drop immensely. I did that in my 30s in Europe. Best time of my life. There are even bicycles available these days with little motors.
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)that when they hit 18, I am selling everything and hittin the road... I'll backpack across Europe and then go live in the Ashram for a while
Life begins at 50!
liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)It has landscapes from Yellowstone, Arches and other federal landmarks.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)Not sure if the same as what you're referring to. Mine doesn't expire until 2018, but the pages are getting full. May have to get a new one by next year.
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)Where have you been to fill all those passport pages?
You can get extra pages sewn in rather than apply for a new one.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)I've been to Dominican Republic, England, France, Italy, New Zealand...but my multiple business trips to Hong Kong with multiple transits back and forth to mainland China have filled up most of the pages.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Well, I give the application and a check to pay the fee as a gift.
Mine has expired--I have to get a new one, myself!
lebkuchen
(10,716 posts)There are lots of people with dual citizenships. Those carrying a US passport in addition to another country's are wise NOT to let it expire due to difficulties in ever getting it back.
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)Never felt the need to leave the U.S. since, so I don't have one.