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Eugene

(61,900 posts)
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 03:43 PM Jul 2013

Michigan attorney general backs pensioners in Detroit bankruptcy

Source: Reuters

Michigan attorney general backs pensioners in Detroit bankruptcy

Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:34pm EDT

(Reuters) - Michigan's Attorney General Bill Schuette, a Republican, said on Saturday he would defend retirees who risk losing public pensions because of Detroit's bankruptcy, putting him at odds with the city's emergency manager appointed by fellow Republican Governor Rick Snyder.

Schuette, an elected official, said the Michigan state constitution is "crystal clear" in stating that pension plans are a contractual obligation that may not be diminished or impaired.

"Retirees may face a potential financial crisis not of their own making, possibly a result of pension fund mismanagement," Schuette said in a statement.

The attorney general said he would file in federal bankruptcy court on Monday on behalf of the pensioners affected by the biggest municipal bankruptcy filing in U.S. history.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/27/us-usa-detroit-idUSBRE96Q0A220130727
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Michigan attorney general backs pensioners in Detroit bankruptcy (Original Post) Eugene Jul 2013 OP
Good for him. duffyduff Jul 2013 #1
He is not a good guy etherealtruth Jul 2013 #9
I'll take what I can get. n/t duffyduff Jul 2013 #12
Charged with what? Bunnahabhain Jul 2013 #14
A face saving move and nothing more.n/t WovenGems Jul 2013 #2
rallying against Snyder and the city manager... chillfactor Jul 2013 #3
He really has no choice etherealtruth Jul 2013 #11
I'm sure there are worse things but... Bay Boy Jul 2013 #4
kr HiPointDem Jul 2013 #5
He's doing his job. roamer65 Jul 2013 #6
K&R forestpath Jul 2013 #7
Contractual obligation -- what a concept. LiberalAndProud Jul 2013 #8
might there be one honest person among that band of thieves? rurallib Jul 2013 #10
Give credit where it is due. mick063 Jul 2013 #13
Nothing surprising in the Michigan AG's actions. branford Jul 2013 #15
 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
1. Good for him.
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 03:45 PM
Jul 2013

We need a lot more people speaking out against this criminality.

Snyder and Orr (I think it is) need to be criminally charged.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
9. He is not a good guy
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 06:32 PM
Jul 2013

He really has no choice but to uphold the Michigan Constitution. I fully believe he will do it in a half assed way ... he is even more right-wing than our scum governor (Snyder)

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
3. rallying against Snyder and the city manager...
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 04:06 PM
Jul 2013

is hardly a face-saving move..he has put his political future at risk......

how about some accolades for a republican who is doing the right thing for a change...

Bay Boy

(1,689 posts)
4. I'm sure there are worse things but...
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 04:47 PM
Jul 2013

...losing (or worrying about losing) your pension has to be right up there as a worst case scenario.
But maybe that's because I'm within sight of retiring.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
6. He's doing his job.
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 04:56 PM
Jul 2013

As Attorney General of the State of Michigan, he swore to uphold our constitution. The Michigan constitution is clear on this issue, so he's doing his job. Hopefully he does it well.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
8. Contractual obligation -- what a concept.
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 05:03 PM
Jul 2013

If corporations were held to the same bankruptcy standard, our economic landscape would be much changed.

Good for Schuette! Regardless of party affiliation, his integrity is evident.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
13. Give credit where it is due.
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 06:59 PM
Jul 2013

He is a Republican anomaly with respect to the issue of protected pensions.

Perhaps because he holds an elected position. Perhaps because there are some Republicans with a sense of decency.

I don't know why, but I give him his due for doing what is right. There are many that would not take such a public stance.

I wonder if Rahm Emanuel would take such a position?

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
15. Nothing surprising in the Michigan AG's actions.
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 09:15 PM
Jul 2013

As the State Attorney General, both legal obligation and politics demand that he defend Michigan's constitution. Stating that you want to protect pensioners is really a no lose political proposition, even for a Republican. I would also assume that he will advise that it is his opinion that the DIA artwork should similarly be protected.

However, the devil is in the details. Schuette is definitely aware that federal bankruptcy courts are notoriously independent, and his actions, while possibly and mildly persuasive (and even if in good faith), will likely have little ultimate impact on the court's decisions concerning the pension obligations (and art). Note that although bankruptcy courts consider and often incorporate state law into bankruptcy plans, federal bankruptcy law overrides state law, even the state constitution. Also, the court will appoint one or more committees to actually represent the interests of the pension and health plans. As an attorney, I am more interested if Schuette also takes any position on the status of the remaining unsecured debt. Don't be surprised if Schuette both advocates for protecting the pensions and art while simultaneously discussing the sanctity of the general obligation bond debt, including how failure to satisfy such debt will result in much higher longer term borrowing rates for Detroit and other Michigan cities and town, and could adversely affect the entirety of the municipal bond market. Advocating both positions would effectively cancel each other out as a matter of policy.

Regardless of the above, I'm greatly saddened that Detroit has reached such a nadir. Even without the formal bankruptcy and the City's obligations to the retiree pension and health plans, Detroit is borrowing money under seemingly usurious conditions and still miserably failing to provide basic city services. It would be bad enough if the choice was between funding the pension and heath plans OR providing services and maintaining infrastructure, but it appears that Detroit cannot provide either in its current condition. Add in the fact of the cost to remove unsafe and abandoned buildings, the rapid and continued flight of its tax base, both businesses and individual taxpayers, the poor condition of its schools (70% drop-out rate!), outrageous levels of violent crime, etc., I cannot fathom how Detroit can reasonably recover for generations.

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