The Egyptian military has just massacred more than 100 Morsi supporters in Cairo.

[Comrade Grumpy]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/27/morsi-supporters-killed-egypt-cairo

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23474645

At the scene

Quentin Sommerville
BBC News, Cairo

There are pools of blood all over the field hospital. Many of the injured are in bad shape. Some have parts of their head missing - taken out by bullets.

The doctor here, Hesham Ibrahim, says that in the past eight hours more than 100 have been killed - most by bullet wounds to the head and chest. We saw many such wounds. More that 1,000 injured people are here, the doctor says.

The battle has been raging since last night and all morning. The air is thick with tear gas and people are vomiting. We can still hear automatic gunfire.

They closed the doors here at the hospital as they could not accept more wounded, but the ambulances were still arriving.

[Comrade Grumpy]

1. Is it a coup yet?

[Scootaloo]

2. Nope, that's freedom blood filling the gutters at the intersection of Democracy st. and Liberty ave.

[cali]

7. No. Not according the the White House which just

decided that aid can keep flowing to these murderous fucks.

Aid to Egypt Can Keep Flowing, Despite Overthrow, White House Decides

The Obama administration has concluded it is not legally required to determine whether the Egyptian military engineered a coup d’état in ousting President Mohamed Morsi, a senior administration official said Thursday, a finding that will allow it to continue to funnel $1.5 billion in American aid to Egypt each year.

The legal opinion, submitted to the White House by lawyers from the State Department and other agencies, amounts to an escape hatch for President Obama and his advisers, who had concluded that cutting off financial assistance could destabilize Egypt at an already fragile moment and would pose a threat to neighbors like Israel.

The senior official did not describe the legal reasoning behind the finding, saying only, “The law does not require us to make a formal determination as to whether a coup took place, and it is not in our national interest to make such a determination.”

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/26/world/middleeast/aid-to-egypt-can-keep-flowing-despite-overthrow-white-house-decides.html?_r=0

[East Coast Pirate]

9. The senior official at the White House added

"We can pretty much do whatever we want at this point."

[IDemo]

34. "It's not illegal when the president does it!"

[joshcryer]

14. It's been a coup.

[Catherina]

3. The last figure I saw was 70, then

Al Qassemi tweeted this:

@SultanAlQassemi 44m

Egypt photojournalist @mosaaberizing whom I trust more than Al Jazeera or Al Arabiya counts 24 bodies https://twitter.com/mosaaberizing/status/361009780753571840 … v @lilianwagdy

Either way, this is just getting worse and I don't see a happy ending.

[GlashFordan]

4. The Islamists just dont want

A secular government in place.

[dipsydoodle]

8. That has no bearing on their right to protest peacefully

which overall is what they were doing.

[Catherina]

10. Judging by the tweets of Egyptians on both sides of the debate

who I've respected and followed for years, I think it's much more complicated than that. Some from the Brookings Institute was just catching hell from both sides for trying to simplify things like that.

[cali]

15. I don't know Catherina

Maybe I'm simplifying but it looks to me like the military engineered a coup, railroaded Morsi, and are murdering people. Sissi is a strongman and this looks like anything but democracy to me.

Good morning

[Catherina]

24. Good morning Cali

Are you just waking up? I'm just about to go to bed I think. I honestly don't know what's going on because I'm getting it from all sides except half the picture's missing because it's in Arabic and I don't have the same energy I had 2 years ago. And too many external players got involved to thwart all the progress. Since then it's been revolution, counter-revolution, revolution and I'm lost. The MB haven't been angels throughout this and Morsi was awful. One of the last things he did, that caused a huge uproar, was saying he'd let people go fight against Syria with the rebels. That wasn't the smartest thing to say or the right time. Sissi sounds like just what you said and an ass to boot.

I don't know anymore Cali. I don't even have the energy to follow this. They started a revolution and it's still got a ways to go. I just hope it will be the least bloody possible with the best possible outcome for the people.

Nadia El-Awady ?@NadiaE 8m

I can only see the situation in #Egypt going from bad to worse. I see no near resolution of this conflict. I am not optimistic.

Iyad El-Baghdadi ?@iyad_elbaghdadi 1m

Dear Twitter douchebags: Tweet at me that I'm justifying the massacre or blaming the victims = block with extreme prejudice. Thank you.

[cali]

25. Yes, just getting up- well a couple of hours ago

and off to bed with you, so have a restful sleep.

As for Egypt, Catherina, it just looks like the same old same old. the military, particularly from what I know about the Egyptian military, is a dangerous ally in a revolution. The military mindset, backed with all the power, flows toward tyranny.

I didn't trust the military when they ousted Morsi. I trust them even less now.

[cali]

11. that may be true but the military coup

and subsequent actions demonstrate pretty fucking clearly that Sissi and his crew don't want democracy.

[joshcryer]

12. Yeah, because the best response to islamists is wholesale murder.

[GlashFordan]

32. It's been US policy for 12 years now. nt

[Comrade Grumpy]

37. That's just not true. We are not at war with political Islam...

...but with jihadi militants.

The Muslim Brotherhood took the path of democratic participation. Now we see what that got them.

[GlashFordan]

38. Bullshit

MB thugs were throwing teens from rooftops during the protests. During civil insurrection associating yourself with a terroristic organization is naturally unsafe.

[dipsydoodle]

5. "They are not shooting to wound, they are shooting to kill,"

See Reuters link : http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/07/27/uk-egypt-protests-idUKBRE96O13O20130727

This is the "not a coup" Egyptian military in conjunction with the police.

[dipsydoodle]

6. At the scene :

There are pools of blood all over the field hospital. Many of the injured are in bad shape. Some have parts of their head missing - taken out by bullets.

The doctor here, Hesham Ibrahim, says that in the past eight hours more than 100 have been killed - most by bullet wounds to the head and chest. We saw many such wounds. More that 1,000 injured people are here, the doctor says.

The battle has been raging since last night and all morning. The air is thick with tear gas and people are vomiting. We can still hear automatic gunfire.

They closed the doors here at the hospital as they could not accept more wounded, but the ambulances were still arriving.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23474645

[joshcryer]

13. Sounds like they're shooting back.

Is this where DUers now side with the military like they have in other cases where the protesters shot back?

[Catherina]

18. 100 doesn't seem that far off anymore. I hope it's not more but they're adding up quick n/t

[Catherina]

16. Are you ok with me adding a few things from people I've trusted over the years?

Let me know if you're not because in no way do I mean to disrespect any information we have so far.

The situation on my Egypt feed is one of utter grief from both sides. These tweets are from original Jan25 revolution revolutionaries and independent reporters on the ground, with the exception of Ilad who's not on the ground but pulls it in from the same Jan25 people and relays information coming across in Arabic, from the ground.

Iyad El-Baghdadi ?@iyad_elbaghdadi 37m

Another video purportedly from behind Rab3a's barricades of MOI shooting heavily towards the protesters: http://on.fb.me/18ICKOc #Egypt

I haven't seen a single video or picture or report saying the army is directly involved, unless I missed something this is all MOI. #Egypt

Iyad El-Baghdadi ?@iyad_elbaghdadi 34m

Friend @mosaaberizing who's one of the most professional photojournalists I know is down there, says MB only have rocks & fireworks. #Egypt

Rawya Rageh ?@RawyaRageh 35m

Official death toll (at 21 so far) is based on bodies in morgues.. Many bodies still in field hospitals, getting out.. #NasrCity #Egypt

Witchy ?@nagoul1 33m

According to #Egypt's Health Ministry: 21 dead,180 injured in anti-millitary protest in #Cairo. MB is claiming 100's. I can confirm 26 now

Iyad El-Baghdadi ?@iyad_elbaghdadi 23m

Official sources on both sides lie. I'm only trusting independent individual sources on the ground. #Egypt

Iyad El-Baghdadi ?@iyad_elbaghdadi 21m

I don't want to hear any statements from any MB leaders. #Egypt

I don't want to tune in to Aljazeera either. They seem to only see blood in one direction. #Egypt

Iyad has a long history of objectivity and sympathies, for lack of a better word, for the MB. He's one of the best, top resources for factual information. I don't always agree with his political opinions but as far as facts and objectively reporting what's happening, he's excellent.

Iyad El-Baghdadi ?@iyad_elbaghdadi 21m

#Libya is now exploding in anti-MB and anti-Islamist protests, I'm reading that some party HQs are being attacked by protesters.

Iyad El-Baghdadi ?@iyad_elbaghdadi 20m

#Egypt was put on a suicide path in March 2011. The rest is all details.

Marwa Elnaggar ?@marwame 15m

They announced at #Rabaa that there was a car that needed to be moved so ambulances could come through.They were told: its owner was killed.

Iyad El-Baghdadi ?@iyad_elbaghdadi 12m

#Egypt media stopped Ramadan shows to cover the pro-army protests but are showing comedy shows right now. So fair & professional.

If you want to know who's really running the show in #Egypt, just watch who the TV & media suck up to. It's very clear, it's El-Sisi.

Marwa Elnaggar ?@marwame 14m

Let's be clear.This isn't a pro-MB sit-in/demo.I'm looking for the faces of my anti-MB friends/fam among the pictures of the dead/wounded.

Sharif Kouddous ?@sharifkouddous 13m

Inside makeshift morgue crowd is chanting "Sisi you murderer" and "the people demand the execution of the killer"

Sharif Kouddous ?@sharifkouddous 14m

More bodies coming out. So far eight have come out in this group pic.twitter.com/w0LeSNVg5g

Witchy ?@nagoul1 15m

#Fact: Last night's clashes were between #Morsi supporters and police forces- not the army or military police. #Egypt

Witchy ?@nagoul1 13m

It seems that #Sisi is just as politically incompetent as #Morsi and #Tantawi were. God help us all. #Egypt

Sharif Kouddous ?@sharifkouddous 13m

Grief and rage as more and more bodies emerge pic.twitter.com/Jt10bmtElx

Ayman Mohyeldin ?@AymanM 12m

AntiCoup Alliance updates death toll from clashes with police in Nasr City to 120. Min of Health says 20 people killed. #egypt

Mohamed Abdelfattah ?@mfatta7 12m

Do you know what happens to an Egyptian TV crew if they try to film at an MB rally ? Something close to mob-lynching

Iyad El-Baghdadi ?@iyad_elbaghdadi 12m

Last RT: This is true, unfortunately whenever some #Egypt media came near Rab3a they were almost torn apart. Happened with @TheMiinz.

Mohamed Abdelfattah ?@mfatta7 11m

Quite concerning to hear that makeshift hospitals are unable to respond to rising number of casualties.

Iyad El-Baghdadi ?@iyad_elbaghdadi 11m

Just to clarify, ~25 was the number of bodies at Rab3a's morgue; more & more are being brought in. Total reported toll 100+. #Egypt

Ahmed Abulhassan ?@AhmedAbulhassan 10m

This is no longer political and I refuse to enter in any political discussions. Egyptian mentality is heading towards a humanitarian crisis.

Iyad El-Baghdadi ?@iyad_elbaghdadi 10m

It seems that whenever we're covering deaths on one side we're helping a politician on that side. Down with them all. #Egypt

Iyad El-Baghdadi ?@iyad_elbaghdadi 5m

There are still people who are blaming the US for this mess. Typical knee jerk reaction. Fact is, both sides in #Egypt are blaming the US.

Reem Abdellatif ريم ?@Reem_Abdellatif 3m

Anti-MB rally in #Tunis “@AsmaGhribi: Slogans from #brahmi : today will be the downfall of #ennahdha #tunisia ..”

Iyad El-Baghdadi ?@iyad_elbaghdadi 2m

Last RT (AR) claims clashes started with MB tried to march out towards October 6 bridge and have a new sit-in area... #Egypt

What a sad, terrible, awful mess.

[DonCoquixote]

17. We should be staying the hell out

and let the mideast choke on having to solve it's own problem. Morsi is a scum, but he won the election, and needs to sort out the mess he made by trying to usurp more power than he was allowed (trying to kiss Hamas ass in the process), by the same token, this is a coup a coup a coup, and we have no business trying to help those out.

[cali]

20. We aren't staying out. The White House decided that it's sorta maybe not a coup

and the over $1 billion in aid can continue to flow. Whether Morsi is scum or not, he's being railroaded by Sissi, and you're right, it's a coup a coup a coup.

[Catherina]

19. This map claims to show the location of the clashes and tries to establish a timeline:

Iyad El-Baghdadi ?@iyad_elbaghdadi 3m

This map claims to show the location of the clashes and tries to establish a timeline: http://bit.ly/15SWPeT #Egypt

(If you go to the link, the map is larger)

Oh wow, it's in Arabic. Sorry.

[Catherina]

21. Not done killing. Army source: 48 hr deadline over & state of emergency against "terrorism" started

Marwa Elnaggar ?@marwame 43s

They aren't done killing yet. Army source says that the 48 hr deadline is over & state of emergency against "terrorism" started.

[dipsydoodle]

27. The military have created their own definition of terrorism

[Smarmie Doofus]

28. Ah yes. "Terrorism". It's like an old friend, now. Isn't it? n/t

[morningfog]

35. It is the global go to for control and suppression.

[Catherina]

22. video from inside the clashes

Mohamed Abdelfattah ?@mfatta7 3m

Almasry Alyoum video from inside the clashes

… hats off to the courageous videographer

[Catherina]

23. Somewhere on either side there are people sitting in safety profiteering from all the blood...

Iyad El-Baghdadi ?@iyad_elbaghdadi 26s

Somewhere on either side there are people sitting in safety profiteering from all the blood, wondering how to negotiate. #Egypt

Alfred Raouf ?@Kemety 1m

What is the international code of engagement when a police force are being shot at from a crowd building a wall to block a bridge? #SeriousQ

[Solly Mack]

26. K&R

[DCBob]

29. This is getting ugly.

The military needs to back off or this will get out of control.

[Arctic Dave]

31. "Getting ugly"?

No, this is a massacre.

[muriel_volestrangler]

30. Al Jazeera: Doctors say 120 dead

The exact death toll from Saturday's violence was not immediately clear, but Al Jazeera's Hoda Abdel Hamid, reporting from Cairo, says the health ministry has put the figure at 60 killed so far, based on the number of bodies recieved at the morgue, while doctors at the field hospital in Nasr City, where the pro-Morsi supporters have been gathering at the Rabaah al-Adawiyah Mosque for nearly a month, have put the number as high as 120.
...
Army chief General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi had called for a mass show of support on Friday for a crackdown on what he called "terrorism".

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/07/201372774215454742.html

[Comrade Grumpy]

33. Kick.

[morningfog]

36. This has the risk of igniting an Egyptian civil war.

This is horrible.