What really pisses me off re the RW spin re black men in America and Trayvon Martin

[malaise]

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Trayvon Martin comes from a two parent family
Both parents (though divorced like so many others) were involved in his upbringing
His brother is a college student
His mother has a Masters degree
They have done everything right and yet all we hear about are single mothers having too many children, committing crimes and killing one another

Enough with these diversionary tactics - call them what they are - racist scumbags obfuscating the reality of their gun culture and the slaughter of an innocent teenager.
Don't buy their bullshit!!

[hlthe2b]

1. It is the usual racist players exploiting their audience's inherent bigotry and hate...

May the Hannity's, Limbaughs, O'Reilly's and others of the world rot in their self-made hell.

[malaise]

2. THey are exposing themselves big time this time around

Because the Martin family does not fit their fuggin' caricature of Afro-American families or our families.

[oberliner]

10. You wouldn't know it from the way they describe him

They make him fit the caricature. Hannity especially has been hammering the drug angle repeatedly. It's disgusting.

[malaise]

11. They are playing the race card non-stop

They day poor people realize that they should fear Hannity and Scumbaugh (and not fellow downtrodden poor people) is the day change will come.

[oberliner]

23. Amen

And I think it continues to work with their audience for some reason.

[noiretextatique]

3. and if you call them on their racism

You are playing the race card. And the other problem: some who claim to be democrats parrot the same crap.

[freshwest]

4. +1

[malaise]

7. Well said

They are never racist

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

20. And then turn around and act like the victim when called out on it. There are racist Democrats.

There are racist liberals. Thanks for this!

[XemaSab]

5. And there's the whole

"XOMG, he smoked weed! He was caught writing WTF on the wall! He tweeted about drinking robitussin! He had a picture of himself with GRILLS! OHNOES!" as though this obviously meant that he was destined to be dead or in jail by the time he was 20.

At my high school my lily white friends and I thought it was fun to dress up like crips and go to the mall. There were ALL KINDS of drugs... I never heard about heroin and ADD drugs weren't in yet, but weed was everywhere and I heard about 'tussin, powder cocaine, acid, shrooms, and ALL THE BOOZE. Graffiti wasn't common, but there were kids who went around tagging. And you know what? Most of these kids got into 4-year schools right out of high school and they're professionals today.

It's a shitty and racist double standard to point to a black kid doing something "bad" and make it like it's the sign of a terrible human being when a white kid doing the exact same things would be considered "typical."

[malaise]

8. If smoking weed was supposed to destroy one's life

Most college kids and professionals would have been in prison ages ago. The drug laws were to lock up young black men and it's that simple. The private prisons rose with those laws - just follow the money.

[XemaSab]

15. It's time to decriminalize all drugs

Even heroin and crack and meth.

These drugs destroy families, true, but so does taking people out of the community for 10 years and dropping them back on the street with nothing to show for themselves. And militarizing the police just creates antagonism in the community.

(It's not just about life in the 'hood, either. There are the same problems with white people in Redding, and it creates broken families and generational poverty, and makes poor people more susceptible to being crime victims themselves.)

[malaise]

17. I dare someone to ask Hannity about meth

and poor white families - he won't touch it. And yes neither poor whites or poor blacks put those drugs in their neighborhoods - not in the beginning. Others brought it there.

[noiretextatique]

26. i went to a prestigious, exclusive college

There were tons of drugs on campus...everything from weed to heroin. One ever went to jail...except a black guy who sold weed. The white heroin dealer did not.

[etherealtruth]

6. I think of that "first" twit juror's ...

... use of the phrase "those people"

in order to set that murdering scum Zimmerman free, one would have had to conclude that the murdering scum reasonably feared Trayvon Martin.

I believe the jury had to believe that black men are drug crazed and randomly violent/ murderous ... if one accepts (or worse holds dear) that right wing meme ... the jury could understand and relate to the murderous scum Zimmerman fearing for his life.

I believed that was the defenses entire plan ... play to the racist fear of black men ... and everything would fall into place.

It did. I was deeply saddened and alternately enraged, but not surprised.

[malaise]

9. I don' t think Zimmerman was afraid of Trayvon Martin

I think he wanted to play hero for that women in the complex who was robbed and decided that he would target that teenaged boy. If he was really afraid he would never have left his vehicle. That's all bullshit after the slaughter.

[gollygee]

12. I agree

If he were scared he wouldn't have left his vehicle, or he would have gone back to his vehicle. I think one person was scared, and that's Trayvon Martin. And as it turned out, he had very good reason to be scared.

[malaise]

13. Yep Trayvon's life is over

But every living day of Zimmerman's life will be hell - mark my word. He will pay one way or the other.

[noiretextatique]

24. he concocted a racist tale he knew would resonate

with enough white people to allow him to walk...and he was right.

[gollygee]

25. Which is very sad

I really think you have to do some mental gymnastics to turn a skinny teenage kid into a big hulking brute who can kill a martial arts trained adult man with a sidewalk. But racism allowed people to do those mental gymnastics. There is no justice.

[noiretextatique]

31. racism isn't based on logic

and you are correct: you really have to do some serious mental twists and turns to buy zimmerman's bs story. unless of course you think just like he does and consider black teenagers "suspects."

[malaise]

34. And he succeeded

which should not have surprised me but it did

[noiretextatique]

37. i had a little hope based on the DNA evidence, or lack thereof

but B37 confirmed that the juror didn't pay attention to that evidence.

[Spirochete]

32. Of course he wasn't afraid

If i was in mortal terror for my life, to the point of using a gun, does anyone think I'd pull the trigger just once?

[Dustlawyer]

18. Both sides thought women would make the best juror. One side thought mothers would go their way,

the other knew they could scare these women with the scary young black man theme!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

21. Most of us black people knew what the deal was. They wanted mostly white women because white women

have been taught to fear black men the most.

[NOLALady]

14. Maybe

they should focus on the family and upbringing of Georgie Z.

[malaise]

16. Don't hold your breath

but Truth will out - everything about GZ will be public knowledge.

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

38. With what the public already knows about GZ's character,

I usually ask pro-Zimmerman people if they would want their daughters to end up with a man like him. That usually stops them in their tracks.

[malaise]

39. Only way to make them face reality

Soon and very soon he'll blow up like a propane tank and they'll tell us they had no idea he was a danger to humanity.

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

40. Except for the fact that all of the warning signs were already there.

BTW, when they say he's not a danger to humanity, they mean he's not a danger to "white" humanity.

My prediction is that he'll be dead or in jail by the time he's 35.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

19. Shouldn't be surprising. Look how they treat the president and his wife.

[Cali_Democrat]

22. Bingo!

Obvious racists are obvious.

[edhopper]

27. This is a particularly

pernicious and ugly line of thought.
Somehow the "black community" is responsible for the behavior of all it's members.
If an innocent man is shot by a black man it is because the "black community" can't control it's men.
If the innocent man is black, he is partially at fault because he did not do enough to control the other black men.
If the black man is shot by a white man, well there aren't really any innocent black men after all.

[malaise]

29. Well said

[uponit7771]

33. +1

[brush]

28. Here, here! 100% agreed. nt

[malaise]

30. Thanks brush

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

35. Right!

Because if there's anything the Bush-voting, Palin-supporting, Limbaugh-listening, Fox News-watching wing nuts value it's education, academic achievement, and knowledge!

It's good to know that I'm not the only one that's noticed the blatant double standard when it comes this topic. Most Zimmerman supporting RWers can barely hide their contempt for education and the professionals that try to provide it. They constantly refer to public school teachers as "greedy union thugs". They look down on most white people who worked hard to obtain an education, however, these same people are quick to judge minorities on their educational achievements. Could you imagine if Barack Obama attended multiple colleges in a half dozen years in order to obtain a bachelor's degree?

It's like in the 90's, and early 2000's when several black Basketball players decided to forgo college and jump to the NBA after their senior year of high school. Remember how many people were up in arms over Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, and Lebron James becoming instant millionaires straight out of high school? Remember how these same people ignored, and continue to ignore the fact that the vast majority of pro hockey and baseball players also don't have college degrees? Remember how they also ignored the fact that during that decade Martina Hingis, Anna Kournikova, and Jennifer Capriati were competing in major tennis tournaments in their training bras? (Also overlooking the fact that Pete Sampras, and Andre Agassi NEVER even graduated high school?!)

I mean goddamn, Sarah Palin, Rick Perry, and Steve Stockman are a collection of fucking idiots, Kristi Noem got elected to the house with only a high school diploma, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity dropped out of school, Dana Perino didn't know (until recently) about the Bay of Pigs, or the Cuban Missile Crisis, Harriet Myers and Monica Goodling are the products of religious diploma mills! Not to mention all the other willfully ignorant and terminally stupid people that compose this nation's modern conservative movement. And none of it matters to the average RW joe sixpack! The same people who will give those I mentioned in this paragraph a pass for poor achievement are the same racist morons who will put the academic achievements (or lack thereof) of minorities under a microscope.

[malaise]

36. Excellent post

Should be an OP