Americans turn against Edward Snowden

[alp227]

The American people, who once defended Edward Snowden’s leaks of sensitive intelligence information gathered by the U.S. government, are starting to turn against him.

A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows that a majority of Americans — 53 percent — now say the Snowden should be charged with a crime for his leaks. That’s up from 43 percent less than a month ago.

Over that same span, the percentage saying Snowden should not be charged has dropped from 48 percent to 36 percent.

Much of the movement comes from conservatives and moderates, who are now more likely to say Snowden should be charged with a crime. Among conservatives, 56 percent believe he should be charged, and 40 percent feel “strongly” about it.

full: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/07/24/americans-turn-against-edward-snowden/

[polichick]

1. Unless you think those corporations (WaPo and ABC) speak...

for the people, this poll is meaningless.

[Whisp]

18. unless the polls express your opinion.

someone here posted the old poll like it had meaning. I can't recall who, but someone in the SnowMe cult.

[olddots]

2. printing stats is not like printing news

it's more like trying to create news .

[nil desperandum]

4. Stats

That reminds me of that Twain quote, "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.."

I think pollsters can be capable of all of that and more from time to time depending on where they get their paycheck.

[Cali_Democrat]

3. You mean to tell me...

Fleeing to Russia and divulging US secrets to foreign countries has turned Americans against him? Perhaps his hiring an ex-KGB lawyer and seeking Russian citizenship will bring Americans back to his side....

Oh.....

[99th_Monkey]

5. Americans are M$M brain-washed Idiots.

At least the ones who knew better initially, knew that Snowden is
the real deal whistle-blower he claims to be, yet mysteriously allowed
their views to be sucker-punched with smears being echoed by M$M.

[OilemFirchen]

14. An interesting perspective.

Snowden, "former" Paulite who believed that leakers should be shot in the balls, "evolved". Greenwald, one-time George Bush fanboy, "evolved".

The American public, once-upon-a-time civil libertarians... devolved.

Very astute, friend!

[Whisp]

19. Those two evolved so much I'm sure they are up to crawling up on some sandy beach about now.

Darwin would be interested.

[Cha]

26. Excellent response.. mahalo, Oilem

[bowens43]

7. beat that dead horse.....

do you really think it matters what tthe American people think? The Constitution doesnt give a flying fuck what they think. What this administration has done to the american people is vile and illegal.


but yes, you keep bleating long enough and loud enough and the sheep will follow

[randome]

20. And you keep pointing out to the rest of us which of Snowden's claims are true.

But beware! You will be asked to cite evidence!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[Cha]

27. You're the one "beating a dead horse".

[Wednesdays]

8. Because the Teevee says he is

Then he is.

[Scurrilous]

9. That poll goes against how I feel on this subject, ergo it sucks!

[arely staircase]

10. trying to defect to Russia doesn't win many American hearts and minds

come to think of it, giving the goods up to the Chinese is generally thought of negatively.

[liberal N proud]

13. Exactly

[frylock]

12. well there goes his shot at miss america or president of the united states of america..

that really sucks. of course, it doesn't change fuckall on the unfettered surveillance, but I suppose this is a big relief to the surveillance state supporters that will achieve a smug sense of satisfaction to know people think snowden is a big poopyhead.

[randome]

21. 'Unfettered surveillance'. Nice phrase but you have no evidence it's occurring.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[struggle4progress]

15. The picture emerging from recent polls is somewhat confusing but seems to run along these lines:

large numbers of folk have no idea who Snowden is; those who know are more inclined to view him as a whistleblower rather than as a traitor, but only a handful support him, and most think he should be prosecuted for his acts -- and although people are increasingly uncomfortable with the NSA story, a majority still seem to support the NSA

[AllINeedIsCoffee]

16. Snowden Worshipers: "I am concerned about the civil liberties of the American people."

Then a poll comes out showing Americans don't worship their hero:

"FUCK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE... THEY'RE STUPID... WHAT THE FUCK DO THEY KNOW?"

That's how you talk about people you're concerned about, right there.

[Cleita]

22. I'm reading so much hyperbole here. First, we who think that Snowden will be treated like

old shoe leather should he come back to face the music, are not Snowden lovers, nor are we Snowden worshippers. We are people who have some real concerns about how our security agencies and government are going on some really scary power trips with very little regard for human rights these days. We want answers and your juvenile name calling doesn't serve anything except to make you look like you belong back in junior high. Grow up!

[AllINeedIsCoffee]

23. I'd rather be in junior high than an ideological bubble. nt

[Cleita]

25. You are the one in the ideological bubble.

Wake me up when you have an epiphany about those whom you depend on to protect you and find out they are only spying on you to make money from you and keep you in line if you don't like they way they are doing it.

[Cha]

28. I'll have to give you the ol +1

[RobertEarl]

17. But GWB walks?

Really? The American people just look the other way as Bush walks away.

And you think ABC poll is worth even mentioning in the wake of thousands dead in Iraq? Have you no sense of shame? We know ABC does not.

[Cleita]

24. Heard a good one on the radio today on a station I don't listen to very much but have

to while I'm driving around running errands. It was about Hamid Karzai, the corrupt Bush puppet we have been propping up to run Afghanistan. Some high level military mucky muck was being interviewed and he said that the Taliban will have him hanging from the highest lamppost the minute we are gone so we are going to have to give him enough money to get himself and his family out of there before that happens.

REALLY? Why do we have to do anything for any of those Bush Administration shit heads? Why I thought we went into Afghanistan to wipe out the Taliban and now we are going to turn it back to them? Oh, I'm all for leaving, but I'm also all for arresting Bush for these bad deals he made at taxpayer's expense. If he wants to save Karzai's ass, I want him to do it on his dime not ours.

[RobertEarl]

31. Good point, Cleita

What sucks is we have homeless vets here and we are gonna end up making sure Karzai gets a home. Bush people must feel he is more important than our vets?

Wonder if ABC will ever have a poll on that situation?

[bahrbearian]

29. I can't wait till next year when Obama gives Chimpy the " 5 Thousand Points of Light Award"

Watch Chimpys Opinion Poll #s Soar.

[RobertEarl]

32. And where did our OPer go?

Are they scairt of the question above about where is their shame?

Posting an ABC poll as if it were of some importance, when ABC was all for the war on Iraq. Where is their shame? Have they none at all? Just letting ABCnews wag their tail?

[Mojorabbit]

30. This speaks volumes

"Much of the movement comes from conservatives and moderates" I am sure they are getting the Snowden is a traitor treatment in the rw news.

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. And the popularity of POTUS is dropping like a rock

and NSA is one reason.

Makes zero sense.

(of course propaganda also works and now it is legal)