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AzDar

(14,023 posts)
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:03 AM Jul 2013

Soooo, I'm guessing that those condemning Anthony Weiner would also have impeached Clinton, right?

I mean, it's not that it's something, however distasteful and odd others may find it, that happened between adults... it's the LIES, and the POOR JUDGEMENT, amirite?

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Soooo, I'm guessing that those condemning Anthony Weiner would also have impeached Clinton, right? (Original Post) AzDar Jul 2013 OP
Apples and oranges, in this case. Smarmie Doofus Jul 2013 #1
critical thinking: have a serving. cali Jul 2013 #2
Getting sucked off by the intern was a pretty shabby thing imo AngryAmish Jul 2013 #3
Why is everyone surprised by the reaction? ProSense Jul 2013 #4
here on DU? Maybe a couple of comments, but really? NOT cali Jul 2013 #12
If Clinton would have continued his scandalous behavior DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #5
Clinton's sexual appetites had been known well before he became POTUS Fumesucker Jul 2013 #10
He wasn't getting oral from interns DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #14
When did the Democractic Party become.. 99Forever Jul 2013 #6
I don't question his moral choices as much as his judgement. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2013 #8
He did...Carlos Danger. I think Carlos The Jacker may have been more appropriate, personally... AzDar Jul 2013 #11
more like oh noez, the asshole has less impulse control and judgment cali Jul 2013 #13
Throw in NAFTA, repeal of Glass-Steagall ... GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #7
Bill Clinton has a ton of substance behind his record. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #9
I defended CLINTON against wingnuts, condemned him as an individual, nothing for WEINER UTUSN Jul 2013 #15
Ask any experienced prostitute about the general variety of sexual inclinations of much of the Zorra Jul 2013 #16
Yes. Impeaching the president is the same as saying someone should drop out of a mayoral race. cthulu2016 Jul 2013 #17
I don't think he should drop out, I think he should lose. Happyhippychick Jul 2013 #18
I think someone should ask Tony this 'If you are such a proponent of liberal Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #19
Nope... devils chaplain Jul 2013 #20
I defended Weiner when the scandal first broke . . . markpkessinger Jul 2013 #21
Couple of things... Pelican Jul 2013 #22
 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
1. Apples and oranges, in this case.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:07 AM
Jul 2013

If Weiner were in congress, I'd vote to keep him there.

But we're trying to pick a DEM candidate for mayor here and I want to vote for someone who is at least TRYING to win.

It's not Anthony.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. critical thinking: have a serving.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:08 AM
Jul 2013

I condemned Clinton but didn't think he should have been impeached. You don't seem to grasp that one can condemn what he did and his reckless ass behavior without thinking he should have been impeached. If Weiner boy wants to keep running for Mayor, that's his business, but I look forward to seeing this guy going away and not fucking coming back.

And bullshit on those saying he was a leader. He was not.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
3. Getting sucked off by the intern was a pretty shabby thing imo
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:10 AM
Jul 2013

Do I think he should have been impeached over it? No. But losing one's law license over it was an appropriate penalty.

My personal line was whether or not he suborned perjury, personally or through others. He did not so he should have remained in office.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
4. Why is everyone surprised by the reaction?
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:11 AM
Jul 2013

I mean, anyone remember the faux outrage over President Obama complimenting Kamala Harris.

I know it's not even remotely the same thing. Still, if people were outraged by that, why would anyone expect Weiner's situation to spark less outrage?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
12. here on DU? Maybe a couple of comments, but really? NOT
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:29 AM
Jul 2013

and yeah, it's about as silly and sucky a comparison as you could make. No surprise.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
5. If Clinton would have continued his scandalous behavior
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:11 AM
Jul 2013

If Clinton would have continued his scandalous behavior after it was discovered it would have been much harder defending him. Most folks were willing to give Weiner a second chance. He blew it.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
10. Clinton's sexual appetites had been known well before he became POTUS
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:26 AM
Jul 2013

The phrase "bimbo eruptions" comes to mind.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
6. When did the Democractic Party become..
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:16 AM
Jul 2013

.. just another party filled with bigoted prudes.

"Oh noez... that one likes icky sex stuff! Under the the bus with him!"

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
8. I don't question his moral choices as much as his judgement.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:18 AM
Jul 2013

If he's going to cyber (lol at the thought of the mayor of NY cybering) he should at least use an alias.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
11. He did...Carlos Danger. I think Carlos The Jacker may have been more appropriate, personally...
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:27 AM
Jul 2013

But... big ups for the attempt, Mayor Weiner.

GeorgeGist

(25,322 posts)
7. Throw in NAFTA, repeal of Glass-Steagall ...
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:17 AM
Jul 2013

a jar of Vaseline and you got yourself an orgy. AMIRITE?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. Bill Clinton has a ton of substance behind his record.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:25 AM
Jul 2013

Not all of it good, but no one can argue that Clinton didn't care about policy, didn't understand it, and wasn't willing to work his ass off, and work with whomever necessary, to get something done.

Also, earning a vote and avoiding impeachment are two different standards.

UTUSN

(70,725 posts)
15. I defended CLINTON against wingnuts, condemned him as an individual, nothing for WEINER
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:32 AM
Jul 2013

I condemned both CLINTON and the intern for being selfish about their petty appetites, CLINTON moreso for making us waste our resources on defending him instead of on working on our agenda, for squandering the rare opportunity to occupy the power seat. Besides the Rethug nefariousness.

WEINER is now known before he takes the seat and we have something of a choice ahead of being in the seat.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
16. Ask any experienced prostitute about the general variety of sexual inclinations of much of the
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:40 AM
Jul 2013

human male species.

Bring cash and refreshments if you wish her/him to go into detail.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
17. Yes. Impeaching the president is the same as saying someone should drop out of a mayoral race.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:42 AM
Jul 2013

Exactly the same.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. I think someone should ask Tony this 'If you are such a proponent of liberal
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:05 AM
Jul 2013

views of sexuality, why have you refused to so much as mention your State's laws which allow discrimination against the transgendered in employment and housing? Why are you silent about the sufferings of others and yet vocal about your own right to be as you wish to be, wife, kid, passel of internet sex partners, and voters who must not question any of it?'
The attempts to champion freedom and liberality fail because NY is behind other States and Weiner has never said a word to support those his State abuses.

devils chaplain

(602 posts)
20. Nope...
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:21 AM
Jul 2013

Not condoning it, but President Clinton did would men in power tend to do when offered the opportunity.

Weiner clearly has a problem that runs deeper than that. Many will deny that it exists, but the man is a sex addict and it's a dangerous thing. He needs to check into a rehab; he can consider running for office again after seriously working on his problem for a couple of years.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
21. I defended Weiner when the scandal first broke . . .
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:23 AM
Jul 2013

. . . I thought Democratic Party officials were utterly ridiculous in forcing him out of Congress, particularly in light of what has been allowed to stand on the other side. I am not interested -- nor, I think, are most New Yorkers -- in the sexual peccadilloes of my elected officials.

When he announced his mayoral run, I stood up for him -- indeed, I was seriously considering voting for him. At most, I argued, he had been guilty of a colossally stupid lapse in judgment (hardly a unique fault for an elected official). But if getting forced to resign from Congress wasn't enough to make him realize he needs to keep his phone out of his pants, what is? Given that he continued doing this even after being forced out of Congress bespeaks a real issue concerning maturity and judgment. And I have to wonder, were he elected, how many more of these embarrassing press conferences would we have to endure? Whatever policy objectives he may have in mind, a long, slow drip of a never-ending, salacious scandal will seriously impede his ability to function, and that is simply not fair to the city.

New Yorkers may be very open minded when it comes to sexual foibles, but we really hate seeing an amateur act in what is supposed to be a professional gig -- and Weiner's candidacy is looking more and more like the Anthony Weiner Amateur Hour.

 

Pelican

(1,156 posts)
22. Couple of things...
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:24 AM
Jul 2013

1) When Clinton caught initially caught he at least had the courtesy to lie well and plausibly. Weiner's were intellectually offensive...

2) Weiner is no Bill Clinton

3) Even if he were, if Clinton got caught on a national stage again after having been nuked in place the first time then he would deserve the boot just for excessive amounts of stupid...

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