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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSoooo, I'm guessing that those condemning Anthony Weiner would also have impeached Clinton, right?
I mean, it's not that it's something, however distasteful and odd others may find it, that happened between adults... it's the LIES, and the POOR JUDGEMENT, amirite?
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)If Weiner were in congress, I'd vote to keep him there.
But we're trying to pick a DEM candidate for mayor here and I want to vote for someone who is at least TRYING to win.
It's not Anthony.
cali
(114,904 posts)I condemned Clinton but didn't think he should have been impeached. You don't seem to grasp that one can condemn what he did and his reckless ass behavior without thinking he should have been impeached. If Weiner boy wants to keep running for Mayor, that's his business, but I look forward to seeing this guy going away and not fucking coming back.
And bullshit on those saying he was a leader. He was not.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Do I think he should have been impeached over it? No. But losing one's law license over it was an appropriate penalty.
My personal line was whether or not he suborned perjury, personally or through others. He did not so he should have remained in office.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)I mean, anyone remember the faux outrage over President Obama complimenting Kamala Harris.
I know it's not even remotely the same thing. Still, if people were outraged by that, why would anyone expect Weiner's situation to spark less outrage?
cali
(114,904 posts)and yeah, it's about as silly and sucky a comparison as you could make. No surprise.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)If Clinton would have continued his scandalous behavior after it was discovered it would have been much harder defending him. Most folks were willing to give Weiner a second chance. He blew it.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)The phrase "bimbo eruptions" comes to mind.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)He wasn't getting oral from interns after the Lewinsky story broke.
99Forever
(14,524 posts).. just another party filled with bigoted prudes.
"Oh noez... that one likes icky sex stuff! Under the the bus with him!"
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)If he's going to cyber (lol at the thought of the mayor of NY cybering) he should at least use an alias.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)But... big ups for the attempt, Mayor Weiner.
cali
(114,904 posts)than my dog.
GeorgeGist
(25,322 posts)a jar of Vaseline and you got yourself an orgy. AMIRITE?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Not all of it good, but no one can argue that Clinton didn't care about policy, didn't understand it, and wasn't willing to work his ass off, and work with whomever necessary, to get something done.
Also, earning a vote and avoiding impeachment are two different standards.
UTUSN
(70,725 posts)I condemned both CLINTON and the intern for being selfish about their petty appetites, CLINTON moreso for making us waste our resources on defending him instead of on working on our agenda, for squandering the rare opportunity to occupy the power seat. Besides the Rethug nefariousness.
WEINER is now known before he takes the seat and we have something of a choice ahead of being in the seat.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)human male species.
Bring cash and refreshments if you wish her/him to go into detail.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)Exactly the same.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)views of sexuality, why have you refused to so much as mention your State's laws which allow discrimination against the transgendered in employment and housing? Why are you silent about the sufferings of others and yet vocal about your own right to be as you wish to be, wife, kid, passel of internet sex partners, and voters who must not question any of it?'
The attempts to champion freedom and liberality fail because NY is behind other States and Weiner has never said a word to support those his State abuses.
devils chaplain
(602 posts)Not condoning it, but President Clinton did would men in power tend to do when offered the opportunity.
Weiner clearly has a problem that runs deeper than that. Many will deny that it exists, but the man is a sex addict and it's a dangerous thing. He needs to check into a rehab; he can consider running for office again after seriously working on his problem for a couple of years.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts). . . I thought Democratic Party officials were utterly ridiculous in forcing him out of Congress, particularly in light of what has been allowed to stand on the other side. I am not interested -- nor, I think, are most New Yorkers -- in the sexual peccadilloes of my elected officials.
When he announced his mayoral run, I stood up for him -- indeed, I was seriously considering voting for him. At most, I argued, he had been guilty of a colossally stupid lapse in judgment (hardly a unique fault for an elected official). But if getting forced to resign from Congress wasn't enough to make him realize he needs to keep his phone out of his pants, what is? Given that he continued doing this even after being forced out of Congress bespeaks a real issue concerning maturity and judgment. And I have to wonder, were he elected, how many more of these embarrassing press conferences would we have to endure? Whatever policy objectives he may have in mind, a long, slow drip of a never-ending, salacious scandal will seriously impede his ability to function, and that is simply not fair to the city.
New Yorkers may be very open minded when it comes to sexual foibles, but we really hate seeing an amateur act in what is supposed to be a professional gig -- and Weiner's candidacy is looking more and more like the Anthony Weiner Amateur Hour.
Pelican
(1,156 posts)1) When Clinton caught initially caught he at least had the courtesy to lie well and plausibly. Weiner's were intellectually offensive...
2) Weiner is no Bill Clinton
3) Even if he were, if Clinton got caught on a national stage again after having been nuked in place the first time then he would deserve the boot just for excessive amounts of stupid...