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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:54 PM Jul 2013

Anthony Weiner actually pisses me off quite a bit

OK, I confess I never liked the guy. He just struck me as a phony on some level.

The guy has no impulse control and no judgment.

Yes, I know it's his sex life and blah blah between wiener his wife, but the guy knows he lives a public life and he still behaves in this rash way that can do nothing but hurt and humiliate his PREGNANT wife. and then he does it all over again.

who but a total asswipe behaves like that?

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Anthony Weiner actually pisses me off quite a bit (Original Post) cali Jul 2013 OP
you are right. as compared to other politicians--he's a phony. wait-- Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #1
Sorry, I don't buy that for a minute. cali Jul 2013 #6
you might have a point. Leahy is definitely a phony. Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #10
He needs some help Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #2
so no one with mental health problems should ever be "attacked"? cali Jul 2013 #11
Well you called him a "total asswipe" Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #18
But it's a good reason to not run for office Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #39
Somebody with a problem, an addiction. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #3
Amen. Little Star Jul 2013 #4
What pisses me off is that somehow he has to be the Democratic poster boy. MrSlayer Jul 2013 #5
He's not the democratic poster boy and you seem to forget cali Jul 2013 #9
Well, that's what the talking heads were saying. MrSlayer Jul 2013 #13
However, had this NOT come out, just like Vitter and Sanford, karynnj Jul 2013 #76
I have gone back to the undecided column. I will not vote for Quinn. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #7
I have seen a couple of HappyMe Jul 2013 #15
She is a phony. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #20
She helped Bloomberg strike down Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #40
why not Quinn ? JI7 Jul 2013 #16
She is a phony. She is Bloomberg's pick. She did everything he told her to. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #19
She's Bloomberg's "Mini Me." Squinch Jul 2013 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #8
His wife is on TV standing next to him BainsBane Jul 2013 #12
Repeated infliction of pain. Publicly. Ilsa Jul 2013 #55
Well, it appears she's known about it for some time BainsBane Jul 2013 #57
To the point of being in therapy. nt Ilsa Jul 2013 #59
Though I can't say here BainsBane Jul 2013 #58
+1000 n/t Bonhomme Richard Jul 2013 #14
For me, it's not the specifics of the scandal... Demoiselle Jul 2013 #17
Lighten up. jessie04 Jul 2013 #21
I'll respond how I wish, and you do the same, how about that? cali Jul 2013 #22
Hey... Bubba got a "hummer" in the oval office. Didnt bother me. jessie04 Jul 2013 #25
A chacun son gout cali Jul 2013 #29
"Bubba" wasn't stupid enough or exhibionist enought to put Raine Jul 2013 #33
Well...you got me on that one. jessie04 Jul 2013 #36
Ha! Boom Sound 416 Jul 2013 #41
No, but the girl "servicing" him told everyone. Boomerproud Jul 2013 #53
FAIL! Lewinsky was betrayed by a faux confidante, Linda Tripp Divernan Jul 2013 #64
Linda Tripp being a disgusting person does not make that relationship better karynnj Jul 2013 #78
I responded to the incorrect claim that Lewinsky "told everyone" Divernan Jul 2013 #79
He certainly does lead a pubic life... Common Sense Party Jul 2013 #23
LOL leftstreet Jul 2013 #28
No, just my gutter mind seeing what was not in the OP. Common Sense Party Jul 2013 #49
I agree; he lost my respect. babylonsister Jul 2013 #24
I think people's political lives can and should be separate from their sexual lives. nt Bonobo Jul 2013 #26
perhaps, but this is about a lot more than just his sex life cali Jul 2013 #30
I think that sexual impulsiveness does not require that one be impulsive in other ways. Bonobo Jul 2013 #34
Well, if all Weiner did was sex text...you got a point nadinbrzezinski Jul 2013 #37
"a shocking lack of impulse" ?? jessie04 Jul 2013 #80
why? because the likes of you doesn't care for my turn of phrase? cali Jul 2013 #81
So when he sexts that he's just masturbated in the Capitol men's room? Divernan Jul 2013 #66
He should go away, far away, and stay away TheCowsCameHome Jul 2013 #27
Totally agree. nt Raine Jul 2013 #32
"no impulse control and no judgment" frogmarch Jul 2013 #35
Agree 100%.. Punkingal Jul 2013 #38
K&R. ITA! MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #42
I wouldn't be able to vote for him unless Ilsa Jul 2013 #43
She needs to take him to the cleaners. alarimer Jul 2013 #44
Probably should support the Dems from the sidelines Sienna86 Jul 2013 #45
He's a sleazebag. forestpath Jul 2013 #46
His wife is not the main real issue zentrum Jul 2013 #47
100% agree-->treats women as objects, has an alias name for texting, addicted to sex, lies, etc. hue Jul 2013 #48
Why did Schumer kick him out of his Washington office and send him back to Brooklyn? FarCenter Jul 2013 #50
Someday, one can only hope 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #51
What is it with these politicians? Marie Marie Jul 2013 #52
He's a misogynist scumbag. The fact that his politics agree with mine makes no matter. SylviaD Jul 2013 #54
Let (s)he who is without sin, cast the first stone. jessie04 Jul 2013 #70
It appears to me you have him pegged Generic Brad Jul 2013 #56
I'm convinced... MrMickeysMom Jul 2013 #60
I was surprised he continued sexting after he resigned Politicub Jul 2013 #61
I don't care what anyone does for their sexual thrills - but from purely the angle of common sense Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #62
John Edwards davepc Jul 2013 #63
Me too! KT2000 Jul 2013 #65
The man has become nothing more than a pathetic joke. Divernan Jul 2013 #67
He is sad really. Johnny Noshoes Jul 2013 #77
Not all that long ago Iwillnevergiveup Jul 2013 #68
agree 100% Cali. How are ya ?? nt Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2013 #69
Laura, darling, where have you been? cali Jul 2013 #72
I was thinking his comeback was on track madville Jul 2013 #71
But if right wing politicians are not held to the same standards... Blue Owl Jul 2013 #73
Ah the weakest of all arguments. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #74
Gee cali, he never killed no one fadedrose Jul 2013 #75
 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
1. you are right. as compared to other politicians--he's a phony. wait--
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:55 PM
Jul 2013

what I meant is that they are ALL phony and some are just better actors than others.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. Sorry, I don't buy that for a minute.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:00 PM
Jul 2013

Bernie Sanders is not a phony. I've met and spoken with him any number of times. for that matter, Pat Leahy isn't a phony either. Nor is my rep, Peter Welch. Yes, Vermont is a small state and meeting with and speaking with your Senator or rep is not a hard thing to do..

And how about that bit about no impulse control or judgment? Are you now going to claim that all politicians are just like that?

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
2. He needs some help
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:57 PM
Jul 2013

I'm not going to viciously attack someone who may be in need of mental health care.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
18. Well you called him a "total asswipe"
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:08 PM
Jul 2013

I think I'll refrain from such attacks for now. I'm hoping he gets the help he needs.

To me, this seems like a sad story of addiction.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
3. Somebody with a problem, an addiction.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 07:59 PM
Jul 2013

Look, we have our local episode of the young and the restless in San Diego, with Mayor Filner, who was Congressman Filner, why our local tempest is now national... and we have had how many others in BOTH parties do this?

They used to piss me off. Then I used to go "their family problem." (after reading the complaint against Filner I almost expect more than a civil suit)... but at this point... it has to be more than just people with lack of self control.

And the power of political office does not help.

Yes, I think we can sincerely start asking if we need to start looking at some of this as more than just control issues, or quite frankly in at one least one case sexual battery.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
5. What pisses me off is that somehow he has to be the Democratic poster boy.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:00 PM
Jul 2013

And Vitter or Sanford aren't the posterboys of the GOP. No one even brings it up with them.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
9. He's not the democratic poster boy and you seem to forget
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:02 PM
Jul 2013

that Sanford led titillating headlines for quite some time. If Weiner hadn't done it again, literally on the heels of the other times, he wouldn't be in deep shit.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
13. Well, that's what the talking heads were saying.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:04 PM
Jul 2013

Obviously they're full of shit but that's how the media would play it.

karynnj

(59,507 posts)
76. However, had this NOT come out, just like Vitter and Sanford,
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:05 AM
Jul 2013

the story would likely have been that he got past it to win, or at least make a strong run to be mayor of NYC in spite of the earlier episodes.

I think many might be as concerned with the completely dishonesty of a humble apology while continuing to do what he then said was a huge mistake. Not to mention, there is the riskiness of this habit. How likely is it that at some point he is played by a Republican operative - with the full test to be released say the week before an election or that he sends inappropriate material to someone actually under age. (I don't think claiming that the facebook account said 18 would affect how it is viewed by people.)

 

Boom Sound 416

(4,185 posts)
40. She helped Bloomberg strike down
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:58 PM
Jul 2013

Twice voted term limits for mayor and council

She's out in my book

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
19. She is a phony. She is Bloomberg's pick. She did everything he told her to.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:08 PM
Jul 2013

I just don't like her.

Response to cali (Original post)

Ilsa

(61,707 posts)
55. Repeated infliction of pain. Publicly.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:33 PM
Jul 2013
“It took a lot of work and a lot of therapy to get to the place I am now,” Abedin said. “It was not an easy choice. But I made the decision to stay in this marriage. It was a choice I made for me, my son and our family.”

Doesn't sound like this was something she was okay with. Why does he want to publicly hurt her like this?

BainsBane

(53,093 posts)
57. Well, it appears she's known about it for some time
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:35 PM
Jul 2013

So has had a chance to deal with it. She seems to think it has stopped. I hope she's right.

BainsBane

(53,093 posts)
58. Though I can't say here
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:36 PM
Jul 2013

What I thought when I saw her with him on TV without risking a jury hide. Let's just say I was thinking of vengeance for her.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
17. For me, it's not the specifics of the scandal...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:07 PM
Jul 2013

..it's the appalling inability to keep it secret.
As English aristocrats allegedly used to say: "Do anything you like my dear...just don't do it in the street and frighten the horses."

 

jessie04

(1,528 posts)
21. Lighten up.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:12 PM
Jul 2013

Laugh a little......with all the horrible things in the world, this is minor.

I predict he'll still win the mayoral job.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
22. I'll respond how I wish, and you do the same, how about that?
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:14 PM
Jul 2013

good.

And I predict that he'll drop out within 10 days.

You don't come back from this shit- particularly when you handle it as badly as he has.

Raine

(30,541 posts)
33. "Bubba" wasn't stupid enough or exhibionist enought to put
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:37 PM
Jul 2013

his "hummer" out on the internet either.

Boomerproud

(7,970 posts)
53. No, but the girl "servicing" him told everyone.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:15 PM
Jul 2013

What's the difference? It's still part of Clinton's legacy especially since he was a serial adulterer.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
64. FAIL! Lewinsky was betrayed by a faux confidante, Linda Tripp
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:50 PM
Jul 2013

You could not be MORE wrong, and evidently have no familiarity with the history of how Lewinsky was manipulated and tape-recorded by a woman posing as a confidante/mother figure!

http://articles.latimes.com/1998/oct/03/news/mn-28942

It was Tripp who single-handedly precipitated the scandal with what appeared to be a stunning act of personal betrayal. It was Tripp, an obscure government worker, who befriended a desperate and none-too-savvy Lewinsky, then voluntarily delivered the incriminating tapes to independent counsel Kenneth W. Starr.

How could Tripp have done it? What were her motives? How could Lewinsky have walked so blindly into the trap? The answer that appears to emerge from transcripts of the tapes, plus grand jury testimony and other documents released Friday, is that resentment over what Tripp saw as her own mistreatment by the White House turned her into an implacable, self-commissioned secret agent bent on revenge.

Like a police detective building a bond of friendship with a suspect, Tripp made herself more than Lewinsky's confidant. She became her counselor, her surrogate mother, her lifeline in a sea of troubles.

"I think I look at you as a mom," a tearful Lewinsky declared in one conversation.
"I know that," Tripp answered.
In another, Lewinsky told Tripp, "We have a really unique relationship, you know."
"There's a lot of mother-daughter there," Tripp suggested, offering to help Lewinsky find a therapist.
"You're a victim," the older woman said. "I think you should see someone simply because I think--(sigh)--it would help you cope. Because until this comes to a head one way or another, you aren't going to be Monica. Do you know what I mean?"

karynnj

(59,507 posts)
78. Linda Tripp being a disgusting person does not make that relationship better
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:22 AM
Jul 2013

There is no justification for the President of the United States having a sexual relationship with an intern. In fact, the first detail known of the start of their relationship - that she flashed her underwear should have led to a discreet note to personnel to fire her.

On a personal level, it was sad hearing that she thought he would divorce Hillary and marry her -- when in reality, he was still forgetting her name. (and he is a person known to have incredible skill at remembering names and faces. It is far sadder that Clinton put Hillary through the humiliation of having to repeat his lies on this - especially if she did not know the truth.

The difference between Weiner and Clinton is that at the point where it was clear that Clinton's Arkansas issues were not over, he was President and he had real accomplishments that set him apart from alternatives. (In retrospect, you wonder if an enraged Democratic party had persuaded Clinton to step down, how history would have changed. Gore would have continued the same policies and had a year or so to be seen as the Eagle Scout President with the same political positions that Clinton had Would he then have the same job approval or higher? Not clear, but it could have meant not President Bush II. )

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
79. I responded to the incorrect claim that Lewinsky "told everyone"
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:38 AM
Jul 2013

You're mistaken to interpret that as justification for Clinton. I have never respected Clinton since the Lewinsky debacle. It was Linda Tripp who TAPE RECORDED Lewinsky. And Clinton was not fool enough to sext with multiple total strangers. I agree there is no justification for the President of the US - OR ANY MARRIED MAN AND/OR BOSS having a sexual relationship with an intern.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
30. perhaps, but this is about a lot more than just his sex life
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:29 PM
Jul 2013

it displays a shocking lack of impulse control and judgment.

Sorry, but that is not a good thing in a chief executive.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
34. I think that sexual impulsiveness does not require that one be impulsive in other ways.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:39 PM
Jul 2013

In fact, I think sex often plays a role for allowing impulsiveness and other attributes to be played out, manifested and expressed.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
37. Well, if all Weiner did was sex text...you got a point
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 08:51 PM
Jul 2013

I still think he needs help.

What is developing in San Diego is already border line criminal...as in actual sexual battery.

So I am not sure about that, and damn shame by the way.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
66. So when he sexts that he's just masturbated in the Capitol men's room?
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:05 PM
Jul 2013

That doesn't seem particularly separate to me. Nor does sexting from his Capitol hill office.

So, what new details of Weinergate are brought forth in today's excepts? Well Weiner was very proud of his Johnson ("It's a big office and you know that's not the only thing here that's big&quot , may have once masturbated in Congressional bathrooms ("'I had to do some wiping in the bathroom hehe,' he wrote minutes later.&quot , may have some longstanding issues with his in-laws ("They just believe I should be Muslim or convert… it makes for a lot of uncomfortable meetings" and "they are a bit backwards thinking&quot , didn't like his former rival and now replacement Bob Turner ("Just another rich businessman trying to buy himself an election… like Bloomberg.&quot and sometimes sexted while using an avatar with a photograph of his niece's face—presumably to keep his identity hidden.

http://gothamist.com/2011/10/11/weiner_sext_partner_pens_book_that.php

Her writings expose how Weiner, 47, sent explicit messages from his congressional office and even boasted about masturbating in the House toilets.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079436/Shamed-congressman-Anthony-Weiner-wanted-threesome-ANOTHER-MAN-sext-mistress-Traci-Nobles-claims.html#ixzz2Zvcv2WYI
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Ilsa

(61,707 posts)
43. I wouldn't be able to vote for him unless
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:10 PM
Jul 2013

his wife came out and said they have an open marriage, and she is doing the same thing. Not "allowed to do" the same thing, but doing it...

Okay, I don't think I could vote for him then, either. I think his judgment and impulse control are messed up, too.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
44. She needs to take him to the cleaners.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:12 PM
Jul 2013

Then run for mayor herself and beat his sorry cheating ass.

Some men are just pigs.

Sienna86

(2,150 posts)
45. Probably should support the Dems from the sidelines
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:26 PM
Jul 2013

He appears to have a compulsion but I'll leave that to the mental health professionals. I would not run for office if I was in his shoes; I wouldn't want to further embarrass my spouse and child if nothing else. Certainly makes me question his judgement.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
47. His wife is not the main real issue
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:31 PM
Jul 2013

The main issue is that with this lack of impulse control he hurts any progressive things he might be able to do for NYC if he gets elected, because he can be blackmailed, or the other shoe can drop at any time and really hurt his constituents by strengthening his right wing opponents just when he's trying to get something passed.

Right now his presence in the race hurts all New Yorkers who want to defeat Quinn, because he draws votes away from DeBlasio, which given this scandal, increases her chances of winning. Ugh.

I hate it when politicians (like Clinton) risk throwing us under the bus because of their sexual narcissism.

hue

(4,949 posts)
48. 100% agree-->treats women as objects, has an alias name for texting, addicted to sex, lies, etc.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:31 PM
Jul 2013
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
50. Why did Schumer kick him out of his Washington office and send him back to Brooklyn?
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:43 PM
Jul 2013

This behavior probably goes back a long ways.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
51. Someday, one can only hope
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:04 PM
Jul 2013

that someday we will transcend our shame-based neo-Calvinist sexual fixations
and fetishes about the sex life of the "rich & famous".

It's a very unhealthy lop-sided litmus test, often used by people with dubious
agendas to blackmail otherwise decent people into doing their bidding.

I honestly believe we are better than that, and it's conceivable that we could
collectively rise above this kind of crooked back-door influence dealing.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
52. What is it with these politicians?
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:12 PM
Jul 2013

Some want to "do" everybody and others don't want anybody to "do" it all. I guess it keeps things interesting and diverts our attention from the big picture.

SylviaD

(721 posts)
54. He's a misogynist scumbag. The fact that his politics agree with mine makes no matter.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:25 PM
Jul 2013

He should drop out immediately. I'm not covering my eyes to his reprehensible actions any longer.

Generic Brad

(14,276 posts)
56. It appears to me you have him pegged
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:33 PM
Jul 2013

Those who strive to lead should represent the best in us, not the worst.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
60. I'm convinced...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:38 PM
Jul 2013

You can't be under 50 in politics and NOT be at least a little bit of an ass.

I wish it didn't come down to sex, but it often does. We have gone beyond the point of transparency when immature, though smart legislators do things you just wish the hell they wouldn't.

Unless you're Republican and over 50, sexually repressed... then you either wait for other men in public restroom stalls or through some after hours glory hole, and then are excused by your "brethren".

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
61. I was surprised he continued sexting after he resigned
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:39 PM
Jul 2013

The New York mayoral race just got more cray cray.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
62. I don't care what anyone does for their sexual thrills - but from purely the angle of common sense
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:42 PM
Jul 2013

impulse control for someone in public life - the phrase "poor judgment" would be putting it mildly.

KT2000

(20,591 posts)
65. Me too!
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:58 PM
Jul 2013

I have had it with politicians who think their rewards in politics are to behave like idiots and forget about any loyalty they should have for their constituents. I'm just sick of them.
Of course what he did to his wife is much worse. As for Weiner, he is not to be trusted.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
67. The man has become nothing more than a pathetic joke.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:11 PM
Jul 2013

The Carlos Danger Name Generator
Use our widget to get a name like Anthony Weiner’s alleged sexting pseudonym.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/low_concept/2013/07/carlos_danger_name_generator_use_our_widget_to_get_a_name_like_anthony_weiner.html

This link is to an on-line "widget". I played and got the on-line name, Benito Catastrophe.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
68. Not all that long ago
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:20 PM
Jul 2013

(because I remember it!) JFK got a major pass from the press for all his playing around; consequently, not many people knew about his sexual appetites. It simply wasn't reported. I wonder how he would fare in today's 24 news cycle, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc. He couldn't stop himself either, and that sounds like addiction to me.

Alcoholics Anonymous, 4th edition, pg. 24:

"The fact is that most alcoholics, for reasons yet obscure, have lost the power of choice in drink. Our so-called will power becomes practically nonexistent. We are unable, at certain times, to bring into our consciousness with sufficient force the memory of the suffering and humiliation of even a week or a month ago. We are without defense against the first drink."

Or snort coke or slam meth or lose the rent money at Black Jack or expose ourselves over the internet.

madville

(7,412 posts)
71. I was thinking his comeback was on track
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:19 AM
Jul 2013

Kind of like Gavin Newsom successfully recovered from his problems. I hope Weiner gets the help he may need or enjoys himself out of the public eye. One thing is for sure though, you can't do these things while in or running for public office.

Blue Owl

(50,532 posts)
73. But if right wing politicians are not held to the same standards...
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:50 AM
Jul 2013

then it's fair game IMO.

If David Vitter, Larry Craig, etc. are all allowed to have indiscretions and continue their political careers, then why not Weiner?

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
74. Ah the weakest of all arguments.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:52 AM
Jul 2013

We the party of the liberated woman, who is encouraged to stand up, and not be diminished by society can now say that the other side is worse, so we'll just go with it too.

Embracing what we object to in others, is not the party I've come to know, and love.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
75. Gee cali, he never killed no one
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:55 AM
Jul 2013

If he did he'd be sending pics of the corpses so we were spared that . . .

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