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Stinky The Clown

(67,800 posts)
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 11:50 AM Jul 2013

It sad, and imparts a feeling of hopelessness, to watch the news media speak of Helen Thomas.

They all mention her comments about the Palestinians, of course.

They talk about her record as a pioneer for women journalists, how 10 presidents deferred to her. All the usual, pro-forma stuff one would expect from someone reading a pre-prepared obit from the news room's ready-files.

I would rather they all took inspiration from her. Asking the hard questions. Never backing away from the truth. Being tenacious in followup.

Helen Thomas may well be the very last real journalist, real *reporter*, real *working* newsman, any of us will ever know.

Thank you for your service, Ms. Thomas. Our society is well and truly diminished with your passing.

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It sad, and imparts a feeling of hopelessness, to watch the news media speak of Helen Thomas. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jul 2013 OP
I will miss her, as I miss Molly Ivins and others. PDJane Jul 2013 #1
When the media reports that which its wealthy owners wants...when we are fed NRaleighLiberal Jul 2013 #2
Excuse me... PCIntern Jul 2013 #3
Are you seriously comparing what is going on in Israel with Irish immigrant descendants in USA? uppityperson Jul 2013 #10
No... PCIntern Jul 2013 #17
Oh sure, because it's instant death to go to Germany in the 21st Century. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #19
She said the "Jews should get the hell out of Palestine" PCIntern Jul 2013 #21
Do you know the difference between Israel and Palestine? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2013 #4
Helen's words about what a journalist's job is...and how she saw hers: Triana Jul 2013 #5
oh baloney that she's the last real journalist. what was Michael Hastings? cali Jul 2013 #6
I agree with you, but they are seen as more "alternative." deurbano Jul 2013 #7
Don't forget Amy Goodman! Fuddnik Jul 2013 #9
KNR. DirkGently Jul 2013 #8
What news media? You mean the capitalist propaganda machine? nt valerief Jul 2013 #11
A talking head libodem Jul 2013 #12
A true liberal. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #13
As always, excellent post Stinky. n/t madmax Jul 2013 #14
She adhered to a higher standard than they did. Warpy Jul 2013 #15
Give 'em Helen Heaven, Thomas! ;-) Gus Lammas Jul 2013 #16
The trouble is, all these things you see on TV are done by people who never knew her DFW Jul 2013 #18
Thank you for posting azurnoir Jul 2013 #20
I hope we will one day again see true journalists. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #23

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
1. I will miss her, as I miss Molly Ivins and others.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 12:03 PM
Jul 2013

And yes, we are diminished. The people who should be there to take her place don't seem to be there.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
2. When the media reports that which its wealthy owners wants...when we are fed
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 12:13 PM
Jul 2013

what the various industry lobbyists tell us we can eat and scoff at science that may indicate possible harm, when it is decided which groups to dissuade voting by making it more difficult - and when we are continually bombarded with fear mongering....

land of the free? and let's not even get started on the other part.....

PCIntern

(25,550 posts)
3. Excuse me...
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 12:17 PM
Jul 2013

the comments were not so much about the Palestinians but about the Jews needing to return to their homelands in Europe...you know...the homelands that attempted to ERADICATE them. Imagine a journalist in Israel stating that the descendants of Irish immigrants to the United States should return to Ireland. That would play real well here...Sheesh.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
10. Are you seriously comparing what is going on in Israel with Irish immigrant descendants in USA?
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 01:25 PM
Jul 2013

Mind boggling.

PCIntern

(25,550 posts)
17. No...
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:15 PM
Jul 2013

don't pick a fight where there isn't one. It is just as outrageous for her to tell those immigrants to go home as it would be to tell Americans to go "home".

PCIntern

(25,550 posts)
21. She said the "Jews should get the hell out of Palestine"
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 07:59 PM
Jul 2013

what world are YOU living in? About whom else would language like that be tolerated except Jews? It's par for the course, though, isn't it?

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
5. Helen's words about what a journalist's job is...and how she saw hers:
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 12:22 PM
Jul 2013

"My goal is to seek the truth wherever it leads me. I think that's the role of journalists & that we have fallen down on the job" -Helen Thomas

THESE are the words the talking heads need to be repeating over and over both internally and externally today and every day...or they need to GET. OUT. of that field.

Period.
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. oh baloney that she's the last real journalist. what was Michael Hastings?
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 12:23 PM
Jul 2013

What is Matt Taibbi?

Hyperbole. It's what Stinky is having for breakfast.

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
7. I agree with you, but they are seen as more "alternative."
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 12:55 PM
Jul 2013

She was part of the mainstream for many years.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
12. A talking head
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 01:38 PM
Jul 2013

Reading copy off of a telepromptor does not equal a journalist. You could animate a cartoon for that.

She may well be the last real journalist.

DFW

(54,387 posts)
18. The trouble is, all these things you see on TV are done by people who never knew her
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:52 PM
Jul 2013

They just drag up some archived clips and some articles, and voilà instant bio.

Canned like a two-person portion of Chef Boy-Ar-Dee ravioli, and just about as authentic.

At least they are trying. I can't expect that everyone knew her personally.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
20. Thank you for posting
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 04:58 PM
Jul 2013

and I remember the reaction(s) here when Ms Thomas's 'interview' with Rabbi David Nesenoff made the 'news'

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