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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm noticing some heavy spinning going on to down play the DOJ investigation.
regarding the Zimmerman case. Anyone else catching it?
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)and after much thought, chose not to respond.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)found no evidence that Zimmerman is a racist.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)ananda
(28,862 posts)And didn't Z have that racist website that was conveniently removed?
madville
(7,410 posts)I think Zimmerman could have acted racist in his profiling of Trayvon but I don't think he hates black people like we think of when we are talking about traditionally vocal racist people.
I'm sure in Zimmerman's mind he is not a racist, he would point out his black date to the senior prom, his former black business partner, his black relatives that lived with him, or the black children he mentored.
I would say he could have commited a racist act by profiling but does not have a history of being a racist.
It will be tough for a federal civil rights case to be made on what we think his mindset was though, that isn't solid evidence.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Convenient.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)and people tend to calm down. That gives the government time to put together a plan to react to any blow back when they give their pat answer that there has been an investigation and they have found that nothing needs to change and there is nothing the federal government can do. It works both ways. If the media can play it down, then when the people are let down, they can say, "See. We told you there was nothing to see here." Then folks can go back to watching American Idol and Dancing with the Stars.
Mojo Electro
(362 posts)Drag Trayvon's family through another case that will result in yet another acquittal? The original charges were only brought because of public pressure, and the same would be the case if they decide to go forward and have another crack at Zimmy. The evidence is not there.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)I'll bet the same was said in De LaBeckworth's defense too......
Mojo Electro
(362 posts)In the De La Bleckworth case, that would have been dead wrong.
In the Zimmy case, it's probably true.
See the difference?
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)X_Digger
(18,585 posts)At the time, they wondered if the state thought it couldn't get the charges past a GJ.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)You know, the type that supported SYG laws -- otherwise known as "license to kill black/brown people" among most of the gun culture.
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)She's a law'n'order wharrgarble type who lets her mouth write checks her ass can't cash. Like another poster I know..
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)wercal
(1,370 posts)Few places are as idealogical homogeneous as you suggest Florida is...the same Florida that voted for President Obama. And, since you should really be talking about the county and not the entire state, 46 percent of Seminole County voted for President Obama.
Maybe the entire state of Florida isn't filled with roaming bands of hood wearing KKK members trying to get onto juries. It might be possible that is was a complicated case, and the jury erred on the side of the defendent. Geeze this is the state that just acquitted Casey Anthony...but for some reason, this acquittal is different, and everybody in Florida must be a racist?
If I lived in Florida, I would take great exception to your emotional and hyperbolic characterization of several million people.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Spazito
(50,340 posts)so don't 'worry' about them. They, more than many, understand the way the 'justice' system works, wouldn't you agree?
Mojo Electro
(362 posts)Because they hope for (and would expect) a conviction. (not the only reason they support it)
That doesn't make it a good idea IMO.
Spazito
(50,340 posts)it would be more credible to me, however, were your posts indicating support for them instead of opposition to an investigation of possible civil rights violations visited upon their son resulting in him lying dead, shot in the heart for walking home from a convenience store wearing a hoodie in the rain.
Mojo Electro
(362 posts)Of course I have empathy for them, they tragically lost their child in a terrible situation that never should have happened. My personal feelings have nothing to do with whether going forward with a federal case is a good idea. The subject of the thread was the possible court case, and supporters/detractors thereof. So that is what I commented on.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)The WH knew and knows there will be no federal charges because they would be legally without merit. The possibility was something DOJ tossed out to placate public mood in real-time, with the expectation that interest/demand for such an action would fade.
The WH does not want anyone actually expecting such charges because they will not be forthcoming.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)seems to be the deciding factor in everything
madville
(7,410 posts)Zimmerman didn't kill Trayvon because he was black. He killed him because GZ was a coward and was getting his ass kicked.
I just don't see how they can make this a hate crime for a federal murder or civil rights charge based on that defense and that is largely accepted as what happened.