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Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 05:57 AM Jul 2013

zimmie SHOULD have looked a little something like this: (Dialup warning Hvy Pctures)

Last edited Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:34 AM - Edit history (1)

IF what he says happened, REALLY happened as he said it did:

AND this:
Or this:
Perhaps?
For your perusal:
'Amember this:
Just take a peek:
Ring a bell?
This:
Wow a miracle he didn't get at least ONE of these:

?w=360&h=381
Didn't have this:
His lips should have had bruises seeing as how Trayvon was "squeezing, in the attempt to suffocate him:
Hell, NOT mark inside the lip:
EVEN Chimpy McFlightsuit looked like this after passing out on Superbowl sunday a few years back: NOT EVEN THIS!
How about THIS?
Nope, Just this and it had to be ENHANCED to be seen! Ths is NOT the result of having one's head slammed REPEATEDLY into a sidewalk!
This:
This:


And because he eas getting his ass whipped after STALKING, ATTACKING A MURDERING A CHILD, THIS BEAUTIFUL BOY:
?w=590&h=481 DESERVED, In the opinions, MINDS, and HATEFUL TAH-WISTED WORDS of so many DISTURBED people to end up like this:
Armed with only a bag of SKITTLES, ARIZONA TEA & THE BUTTON OF HIS RECENTLY DECEASED COUSIN...REALLY??!! What kind of fucked-up fuckery is this?

That FUCKED UP jury might have set this son of a bitch free but I will NEVER believe the shit that cowardly, child molesting, boy murderer says and he probably should be worried every fucking day as hell that someone, someday soon will stand THEIR ground and draw just a LITTLE faster than he ever could. NONE are so blind as those who WILL NOT see!

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zimmie SHOULD have looked a little something like this: (Dialup warning Hvy Pctures) (Original Post) Ecumenist Jul 2013 OP
Let's hope that woman who he molested as a child till 19 Politicalboi Jul 2013 #1
Thugs who get a free ticket out of prison Warpy Jul 2013 #26
looking for a reason to hate? hfojvt Jul 2013 #2
get over yourself. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #3
I can't hfojvt Jul 2013 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Ecumenist Jul 2013 #9
i think you posted to the wrong person. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #11
OHH. Gosh, I am so sorry, HiPoint. Please forgive me. I AM SORRY! Ecumenist Jul 2013 #12
no worries. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #14
REALLY? How the fuck did you extrapolate that fuckery about me hating, (hating who? I don't Ecumenist Jul 2013 #16
these weren't your words? hfojvt Jul 2013 #18
You can read but COMPREHENSION is NOT your strong point. Being angry about the latest Ecumenist Jul 2013 #19
I would urge you to read Martin's book "Stride toward Freedom" hfojvt Jul 2013 #23
Oh Please, you don't know who the fuck you're talking to....FOR ME, IT'S NOT A BOOK of Ecumenist Jul 2013 #24
Funny how hfojvt has no snappy comeback for this. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2013 #25
Yep, it's almost 24 hours since that post and the only thing I've heard from hfojvt is crickets & Ecumenist Jul 2013 #29
Agreed. And here's another pertinent example brush Jul 2013 #5
I got into an accident last year with a dude on a motorcycle XemaSab Jul 2013 #6
Okay. But Zim had no hidden injuries either. madashelltoo Jul 2013 #7
difference is that he didn't claim to be pummelled in the face, grabbed by the lips, Ecumenist Jul 2013 #8
Zimmerman was not hospitalised, he wasn't hurt. The marks on him do not support his story. Hoyt Jul 2013 #27
No, they don't yet in the zeal to justify Trayvon's murder, people who have shown a great deal of Ecumenist Jul 2013 #31
Yup. Zoeisright Jul 2013 #10
Zoe, I've ALWAYS felt he realised what he'd don and KNEW he needed to come up with a "plausible" Ecumenist Jul 2013 #32
Graphic video of someone being killed in a fistfight XemaSab Jul 2013 #13
You know, Xema, I am amazed and shocked at your posts. I have always admired and followed Ecumenist Jul 2013 #15
I've always liked your posts too XemaSab Jul 2013 #17
Here's the problem, though. Xema, He should have NEVER gone after that child IN THE FiRST PLACE Ecumenist Jul 2013 #20
Obviously going after TM was stupid in retrospect XemaSab Jul 2013 #21
Actually, Z's case was a lot flakier...There were witnesses and pertinent info LEFT out of the Ecumenist Jul 2013 #22
I think Zman made up his story after he murdered an unarmed kid. Hoyt Jul 2013 #28
Me too. Just watching him on video going through the motions looks like he's trying to remember Ecumenist Jul 2013 #30
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
1. Let's hope that woman who he molested as a child till 19
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:17 AM
Jul 2013

Presses charges. There may be more children out there who have fallen victim to this monster. Especially if this POS makes any amount of "blood money". Where's Gloria Alred? Just like with OJ, maybe he can go back to jail for other crimes. And I'm sure those guys in prison would welcome him with open knives, I mean arms of course.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
26. Thugs who get a free ticket out of prison
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 09:32 PM
Jul 2013

usually do get busted on other charges sooner or later and end up there.

Response to HiPointDem (Reply #3)

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
16. REALLY? How the fuck did you extrapolate that fuckery about me hating, (hating who? I don't
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 04:10 PM
Jul 2013

know who or what you're talking about), from a graphic depiction o what he should have looked like IF he's suffered the beating he claimed he suffered. WOW, project much? I don't hate ANYONE who hasn't purposely hurt me or mine. Get help quick, fast and in a hurry, cuz DAMN!

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
18. these weren't your words?
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 04:29 PM
Jul 2013

"That FUCKED UP jury might have set this son of a bitch free but I will NEVER believe the shit that cowardly, child molesting, boy murderer says and he probably should be worried every fucking day as hell that someone, someday soon will stand THEIR ground and draw just a LITTLE faster than he ever could."

Nope, nothing hateful there.

Did you happen to read the link I posted?

I highly recommend it, not because of the author of the post, but because of the real author. I happen to find the example of Martin Luther King to be quite inspiring and also somewhat humbling.

I know that makes me a bad DUer in the eyes of some, but there it is.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
19. You can read but COMPREHENSION is NOT your strong point. Being angry about the latest
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 05:05 PM
Jul 2013

in a LONG history of folks getting away with murdering people of color by using FLAT OUT LIES AND OBFUSCATIONS and looking forward to get a BIG GULP of his own medicine DOES NOT TRANSLATE to me hating him or people like him. DAMN you really need help, both remedial reading and psychological.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
23. I would urge you to read Martin's book "Stride toward Freedom"
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:06 PM
Jul 2013

His house was bombed - his wife and one year old baby were inside.

He writes on page 137

"By this time the crowd outside was getting out of hand. The policemen had failed to disperse them, and throngs of additional people were arriving every minute. The white reporters inside the house wanted to leave to get their stories on the wires, but they were afraid to face the angry crowd. The mayor and police commisioner, though they might not have admitted it, were very pale.

In this atmosphere I walked out to the porch and asked the crowd to come to order. In less than a moment there was complete silence. Quietly, I told them that I was all right and that my wife and baby were all right. "Now let's not become panciky," I continued. "If you have weapons, take them home, if you do not have them, please do not seek to get them. We cannot solve the problem through retaliatory violence. We must meet violence with nonviolence. Remember the words of Jesus 'He who lives by the sword will perish by the sword' I then urged them to leave peacefully. "We must love our white brothers," I said "no matter what they do to us. We must make them know that we love them. Jesus still cries out in words that echo across the centuries: 'love your enemies; bless them that curse you; pray for them that despitefully use you' This is what we must live by. We must meet hate with love."

I say that Martin provides an awesome example of the way the best people should respond to murderous violence towards even themself.

Now you may say that he is a proven failure, since he was killed at a young age. But he is honored every year on a national holiday (even if many of the people honoring him do not read his books or even try to follow his teachings) and the person who threw that bomb is buried in an obscure grave.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
24. Oh Please, you don't know who the fuck you're talking to....FOR ME, IT'S NOT A BOOK of
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jul 2013

stories and recounting history BUT a VERY real thing. I have 7 relative lynched between 1919 & 1960: a racist farmer tried to set fire the little wooden house my Grandmother was in with her NEWBORN BABY: an uncle had to flee his nice home and prosperous farm in MISSISSIPPI in the dark of night. because a little birdie warned him that the "night Riders" were on the way to first beat, mutilate then burn him in said home BUT not before taking a few things they wanted because a n*gger wasn't supposed to have things nicer than they did.; the Klan in Rice Texas road on my Greatgrandfather and family, ( they called his the white n*gger) because...you got it., He was too prosperous. I'm sure the fact he was Irish married to a LITERAL "Ebony Beauty", didn't help. That part of my family REFUSED TO RUN. Instead, they laid a trap. They positioned themselves in the HUGE oaks, willows and elms,with guns loaded with rock salt, Aiming for the glutes, legs and arms/ The Klan showed up on Horseback & my 7 great uncles, ggrandfather & a various cousins & friends Unloaded on them. Apparently, these morons didn't expect black folks to fight back....and they couldn't get out of there fast enough.
The next morning, Grandpa went into town to talk to the sheriff but was shocked at what he saw.

His friends, (the sheriff, 1 on his deputies, the MAYOR, the pastor at the largest white church in the county and many others he played poker & dominos with), were LIMPING, ON CRUTCHES, IN SLINGS. He turned heel and rode him BUT needless to say, they NEVER again bothered with my GGranfather WILL.

This is REAL to me as I have been followed through stores with enough money to buy anything I wanted: brother has had POLICE TRAIN GUNS on him, (holds a degree in Physics, w/a minor in both astronomy and astrophysics),, as he pulled up to his OWN HOUSE: father was arrested at gunpoint for an armed robbery,police claiming that he fit the description and was released when the booking officer compared the description: the perp was about 5'8", 130lbs bald with a yellow complexion, while my father is DARK reddish brown, at the time, 6'6", 250lbs & a FULL HEAD OF HAIR! Hell, when I was a newlywed, my husband and I went to park in one of the parks along the Sacramento River, where alot of people go, at dusk. We were talking and the next thing we know, LIGHTS ARE TRAINED ON US AND AT LEAST 10 red laser dots on us. There were at least 5 cruisers, around us. They asked why we were there and who we were. Luckily,we'd just gotten married and had a copy of our licence in the car. I was then told that they thought I was a prostitute and Brian, my john because there'd been alot of that sort of activity in the area...REALLY??! Even if that's been the case, did it REALLY require 10 cops, 5 cruisers and at least one shotgun? In fact, I'll NEVER again darken the door of John Ascuaga's nugget because in the late 80's, I was there for New Years with my , then fiance. I was standing behind him while he played Black jack. I was PULLED away by what I can only assume was security and told to leave because they though I was a HOOKER? W...T...F!
Save your books and read them yourself because it's NOT a book for me but reality & there's NOTHING you can say to change that fact.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
25. Funny how hfojvt has no snappy comeback for this.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 09:24 PM
Jul 2013

I'm sorry that these heinous, inexcusable travesties happened in our country.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
29. Yep, it's almost 24 hours since that post and the only thing I've heard from hfojvt is crickets &
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 03:56 PM
Jul 2013

tree frogs! lol! Go figure...

brush

(53,784 posts)
5. Agreed. And here's another pertinent example
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:39 AM
Jul 2013

Thanks for posting these gruesome photos of what beating victims really look like afterwards. And what they don't look like (the zimmerman photos).

The link below is to a story on a guy that got knocked cold after banging his head once on concrete, not the 20-30 times that lying zimmerman claimed had done to him yet he was able to get up and walk away with scratches only.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023254619

The jury must have been predisposed to acquit. How could they not see through zimmerman's lies?

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
6. I got into an accident last year with a dude on a motorcycle
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 09:51 AM
Jul 2013

He had a scrape on his chin. That was his only visible injury.

Oh, and he also had a broken leg, a broken collarbone, a ruptured spleen, and a concussion resulting in amnesia, and his hospital stay cost over a million dollars.

But just looking at his external injuries, he was "fine."

madashelltoo

(1,698 posts)
7. Okay. But Zim had no hidden injuries either.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 10:16 AM
Jul 2013

From day one it was obvious Trayvon had not done what Zim said. He got away with murder. For now.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
8. difference is that he didn't claim to be pummelled in the face, grabbed by the lips,
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 01:59 PM
Jul 2013

the victim of an attempted suffocation, had his nose pinched during the same attempt & had his head "REPEATEDLY"into a concrete sidewalk!! There's NO WAY things happened /like he claimed and all he got were the boo-boo's that DIDN'T require a visit to the hospital, a CT, ONE STITCH or even an appropriate bandage! NO FUCKING WAY!

i've suffered falls onto concrete, ( skating accidents), hit, my head ONCE and gotten a GOOSE EGG, DUCK EGG, (DUHICKEY, for those from the south & Midwest), a visit to Emergency & a sleepless night under my mother's watchful eye. I'm not sorry to tell you that what he said happened and HOW it happened is a bunch of straight out fuckery....PERIOD!!

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
31. No, they don't yet in the zeal to justify Trayvon's murder, people who have shown a great deal of
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 03:59 PM
Jul 2013

common sense are outing themselves as closet racists. NOTHING THIS SOB said makes sense when put into a narrative of what happened... SMDH

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
10. Yup.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 03:31 PM
Jul 2013

Those fucking piddly little scratches the murderer had were self-inflicted. That weenie little piece of pus should be rotting in jail.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
32. Zoe, I've ALWAYS felt he realised what he'd don and KNEW he needed to come up with a "plausible"
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 04:01 PM
Jul 2013

story to justify the murder of a kid and had someone give him a boo-boo or two.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
15. You know, Xema, I am amazed and shocked at your posts. I have always admired and followed
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 04:08 PM
Jul 2013

your posts. Goes to show that that not all are the humane reasonable & decent human beings they at first appear to be, which will change my habits. & BTW, I NEVER said anything about being killed, HOWEVER I would point out that this person DOUBTLESSLY ended up LOOKING like he'd been beaten, NOT to mention the BRAIN DAMAGE and/or broken neck THEY WOULD HAVE and last but certainly NOT least, the visit to a hospital, either ICU or the Morgue. DAMN.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
17. I've always liked your posts too
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 04:23 PM
Jul 2013

I think Zimmerman THOUGHT he was getting a worse ass-kicking than he was actually getting, and in that respect he was full of it.

This case is problematic for a variety of reasons, and there aren't easy answers.

I know Zimmerman's injuries don't look bad at all, but saying "He looked fine on the outside and therefore he was lying about being afraid for his life" is ignoring the realities of TBI and also ignoring the fact that Z's a coward.

If it was a woman who ventilated her husband after he broke her nose and scraped up the back of her head, would we be so dismissive of her injuries? Would we be saying that she should have waited until her injuries were more severe to use her firearm?

We know the cops showed up two minutes later and that Zimmerman would have probably been fine, but Z didn't know that. Hindsight is 20/20.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
20. Here's the problem, though. Xema, He should have NEVER gone after that child IN THE FiRST PLACE
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 05:19 PM
Jul 2013

because there's NOTHING suspicious about wearing a hoodie in the rain, walking through a complex or talking aon the phone, What made him a "suspect" in fat fuck's eyes was the color of his skin. He and his "lawyers" actually made a point of saying the reason he followed Tray was because there'd been break-ins by black males. If he truly was acting as some crazy iteration of NW, ( which by the way WAS NOT in place at that condo complex. early on, the National spokesperson for NW said that there was NO Registered branch there. Besides, NW trains all it's branch members to OBSERVE, hence Neighbourhood "WATCH&quot , why the hell didn't he tell Trayvon that he was NW and was just watching because there'd been break ins in the complex? That LIAR said the reason he didn't tell him who he was was because "HE WAS SCARED"...UH, WTF? REALLY??

Nope, he was looking to play billybadass with his new gun and Trayvon was just the punk, ( NOT was I heard and I've listened to it NUMEROUS times...he said C**N, not pUHnk. I have an ear for language and I KNOW WHAT I HEARD!) to die that night.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
21. Obviously going after TM was stupid in retrospect
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 05:34 PM
Jul 2013

and probably racist, but being stupid and racist doesn't make him Hitler.

Z was the adult and the man with the gun. That makes him responsible for what went down.

However, the physical evidence didn't support the prosecution's version of events, their witnesses were flaky, Trayvon's own dad said that he didn't think Trayvon was the one screaming on the 911 call... The prosecution's case sucked, and no amount of hand-wringing on DU is going to change that.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
22. Actually, Z's case was a lot flakier...There were witnesses and pertinent info LEFT out of the
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 05:55 PM
Jul 2013

courtroom that jurors, "FOUND OUT ABOUT" after deliberating. Me and countless people think that it's a more than a little shady that juror was the wife of Omara's FRIEND, anoher lawyer and they were allowed to visit with their families when they were supposed to be sequestered and she jumped up in front of cameras to talk about her BOOK DEAL? REALLY? How the fuck did she get a book deal SO FUCKING QUICK? NOPE, as a member of a family who have COUNTLESS stories of being followed, attacked AND lynched, I don't buy this fuckery. His story was so full of holes it whistles in a high wind.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
30. Me too. Just watching him on video going through the motions looks like he's trying to remember
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 03:57 PM
Jul 2013

what he said and to try to make it make sense.

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