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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you have the right to resist law enforcement during an unlawful arrest?
And I don't mean yelling at them. I'm talking about physically resisting.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)jehop61
(1,735 posts)It is up to a judge and/or jury to determine what is lawful.t
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)Haven't you seen pictures of peaceful protestors being carried away?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)rightsideout
(978 posts)I'm not sure how successful you can be against an armed ego-maniac throwing his power, billy club and mace around.
Sorry coppers, that's how I feel about you from what I've seen.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)bet to let your lawyer do the resisting.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)On your way. Not cooperating could result badly, ask yourself "Is this bad enough for me to give my life for", if the answer is no then just cooperate.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)you wind up actually committing a crime by resisting arrest.
You're recourse comes when you go before a judge...theoretically at least.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)and the teacher said " you have as many rights as the arresting officer observes " see him in court, but not for resisting arrest .
galileoreloaded
(2,571 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)galileoreloaded
(2,571 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Exercise and/or TM could help that .
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)And, hypothetically, just because you deem your impending arrest unlawful, doesn't mean it is, in fact, unlawful.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)For example, in Ohio see:
The right to resist an unlawful arrest:
http://www.opd.ohio.gov/RC_Casebook/resisting_arrest.htm#The%20right%20to%20resist%20an%20unlawful%20arrest
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)You may consider it an unlawful arrest.
A court may eventually agree with you.
But if you resist arrest, the police are authorized to use greater force to arrest you, up to and incluiding deadly force.
Resisting arrest is, itself, a crime, so once you resist you havre added a crime to the one that you assume you haven't comtted. If you resist with violence, that is assualting apolice officer, another crime.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)safeinOhio
(32,683 posts)that said....
"You have the right to remain silent, anything you say will be misquoted and used against you".
Sad thing is it's true.
By the way, she was a cop.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Try to fight it when you go to court instead.
struggle4progress
(118,285 posts)John Bad Elk v. United States, 177 U.S. 529 (1900)
... At common law, if a party resisted arrest by an officer without warrant and who had no right to arrest him, and if in the course of that resistance the officer was killed, the offense of the party resisting arrest would be reduced from what would have been murder if the officer had had the right to arrest, to manslaughter. What would be murder if the officer had the right to arrest might be reduced to manslaughter by the very fact that he had no such right. So an officer at common law was not authorized to make an arrest without a warrant for a mere misdemeanor not committed in his presence ...
http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/177/529/case.html
I'm not a lawyer, but I think there are only very limited circumstances under which I would consider resisting an arrest that I considered improper
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)When you're booked, get a lawyer and use the courts to contest the arrest. Resisting arrest is itself a crime, so if you haven't done anything wrong and you resist, you now are guilty of breaking the law.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)But, you would be in the right.
You are better off conceding the arrest and having the charges dismissed.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)So you're taking a serious chance of being killed. But at least you will have resisted, right?
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)The right exists in Canada, thanks to a fairly obscure court ruling earlier this year, but I have no idea what the case law in the US is on that. Either would fall under "have fun giving that defense in court," of course..
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)phillysquatter
(2 posts)no way.. batons and tazers are the law
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)The answer to the first is yes. A law enforcement officer is not a deity, infallible and omnipotent.
Can you exercise it? Depends on the state. Many have statutes that you can resist an unlawful arrest.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)I wouldn't advise resisting arrest, unless you feel you are going to get the death penalty.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)Sagon Penn resisted arrest, killed a police officer and injured two others. He was never convicted, though he went through two trials.
The local news media and much of the public sided with Sagon Penn. Witnesses said the officers racially assaulted Sagon Penn. Sagon Penn was black.
http://articles.latimes.com/1985-04-02/news/mn-19309_1_san-diego-police
http://legacy.utsandiego.com/news/metro/20020704-9999-penn.html
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)police officer who either hadn't identified themselves or wasnt making a completely legal arrest and they got off. Will have to find the case if you need it...
Edited to add: Its definitely not something I would recommend trying
dogknob
(2,431 posts)Everyone else is guilty.
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)But you also have the right of way in a well marked pedestrian crossing but if you step in front of a car you will be right but dead anyways.. do what hey tell you and sue later... Not worth the beating.