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I am glad the President spoke out but I wish he had not because the conversation has switched (Original Post) mfcorey1 Jul 2013 OP
Youre wrong. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #1
Yeah. Black people should just shut up and accept their lot in life. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #2
Pathetic response and so far off base. mfcorey1 Jul 2013 #5
How is it off base? You said he shouldn't have spoken about the case. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #7
Error...I said I am glad he did but the fact that the media has made it total conversation makes mfcorey1 Jul 2013 #13
Switched from what? LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #3
It is a major news item DearAbby Jul 2013 #4
The conversation has opened up and enlarged gollygee Jul 2013 #6
Exactly. nt Lex Jul 2013 #11
Obama walks a VERY thin and self-conscious line on race relations. randome Jul 2013 #8
It has given the conversation HappyMe Jul 2013 #9
I applaud him for speaking Generic Other Jul 2013 #10
What Obama did was a great moment in history RainDog Jul 2013 #12
 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
1. Youre wrong.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 02:25 PM
Jul 2013

I'm so happy POTUS made this hearth felt speach. We can't ignore racism. We have to aknowledge it and grow beyond it.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
7. How is it off base? You said he shouldn't have spoken about the case.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 03:53 PM
Jul 2013

You don't like him weighing in on a case that has the whole country tied up in knots??

Let me guess - NOTHING he does meets with your approval, right?

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
13. Error...I said I am glad he did but the fact that the media has made it total conversation makes
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 07:10 PM
Jul 2013

me wish he had not. Don't twist my words to take your point to the gutter. Damn! Save your vitriol for a cause.

LuvNewcastle

(16,857 posts)
3. Switched from what?
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 02:47 PM
Jul 2013

I've been watching the ABC and CBS news most evenings recently just to see what they cover and what they leave out. They're not talking about anything of any import that I can see. They report on the heat or some other drivel. It's never anything truly newsworthy. They might as well cover the speech; doing any in-depth reporting on consequential matters is not an option.

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
4. It is a major news item
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 03:42 PM
Jul 2013

The President of the United states had to enlighten America on what its like to grow up in America while black. I don't know what you were watching. But I saw the leader of the free world had to admit in America, not everyone is free. Did you hear the tenor of his voice, the frequent pauses, the cast down eyes? This still deeply affects this man, being treated like he was a menace when all he wanted to do was make people's lives better.

This was an historical moment. Damn, I am proud I voted for this man. He is showing real leadership.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. Obama walks a VERY thin and self-conscious line on race relations.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 03:57 PM
Jul 2013

He can neither push 'too much' for better relations nor ignore what is happening right in front of our faces.

He made the call that the office of the President needed to weigh in on this. It does none of us any good to second-guess him.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.
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Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
10. I applaud him for speaking
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 04:54 PM
Jul 2013

I think he knew he needed to acknowledge this life experience he shares with so many other black males. It may be the most controversial thing he has said in his presidency. The ever-cautious politician Obama has accused white America of profiling black youth. He has as much as said white Americans killed Trayvon Martin because they let fear and suspicion cloud their judgment. This is a serious accusation. That our nation's racism is killing kids and creating injustice in America.

I suspect the cry for justice is larger than just one teenager, mfcorey1. Martin is the flashpoint. You carry the fire.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
12. What Obama did was a great moment in history
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jul 2013

He expressed the experience of so many people - especially males who are African-American. Holder noted the same experience. Their concurrences that, yes, this happens to black people in this nation - FOR NO REASON - helps people to understand that the experience is not based upon the actions of someone - but based upon the perception of a group.

He also called for civility for anyone who wants to take out anger in destructive ways - while saying civil demonstrations will not be stopped. He talked about black on black crime as a problem. In other words, he addressed the talking points and the fears of detractors in this moment (and, as his speech indicates, far beyond this moment.)

It's useful to move this conversation beyond the trial of one man and the death of one black teenager - because the issue is not just that one case. The grief is for one person, but the grief is also about this same situation being part of the fear of African-Americans - as Americans. Their lives and their freedoms to simply be are inhibited by the knowledge that perception creates dangers for their lives.

Obama mentioned SYG as a problematic law that states should look at... and THIS is a very good statement from the President regarding the sorts of laws that allow injustices to occur.

He spoke about the complicated issues surrounding the case - yes, the jury spoke, so, yes, "technically" all worked as it should. But, there are factors beneath the entire incident, before the jury spoke, that helped to reach this moment and that jury verdict that are grounded in racism and all the effects of this racism.

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