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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 03:39 AM Jul 2013

A woman fell to her death from the Texas Giant rollercoaster Friday night

A woman fell to her death from the Texas Giant rollercoaster Friday night at Six Flags Over Texas as horrified fellow passengers watched. The Arlington amusement park confirmed the death but released few details beyond reporting that its medical staff and city paramedics had responded immediately. The victim’s name was not released.

Six Flags officials offered their condolences to the woman’s family as investigators began to study the cause of the accident, which occurred after 6:30 p.m. Although the ride was closed, the park remained open through the evening.

Early attention was beginning to focus on witnesses’ reports that the woman’s safety restraint may have come undone. Carmen Brown of Arlington was waiting in line as the victim was being secured in for the ride. She said she believed that the woman’s son was on the ride with her.
Brown said the woman had expressed concern to a park employee that she was not secured correctly in her seat.

“He was basically nonchalant,” Brown said. “He was, like, ‘As long as you heard it click, you’re fine.’ Hers was the only one that went down once, and she didn’t feel safe. But they let her still get on the ride.”

She said the victim fell out of the ride as it made a sudden maneuver.
“The lady basically tumbled over,” she said. “We heard her screaming. We were, like, ‘Did she just fall?’”

Investigators were interviewing witnesses on the ride, some of whom reported that the woman had been thrown from the rollercoaster as it rounded a turn. Arlington police declined to comment on the accident.
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http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metro/20130719-woman-falls-to-her-death-from-six-flags-texas-giant-roller-coaster.ece

@joshfleak: Literally just witnessed someone fly off of the Texas giant two seats in front of me.

Gak!

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A woman fell to her death from the Texas Giant rollercoaster Friday night (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Jul 2013 OP
her son was next to her ? how horrible and sad JI7 Jul 2013 #1
Wow. . and I love roller coasters. . . B Calm Jul 2013 #2
Good grief malaise Jul 2013 #3
That is why I wont get on the damn things if you paid me!! darkangel218 Jul 2013 #4
Most of them are designed so an unsecured bag of flour wouldn't be ejected. Igel Jul 2013 #5
Shit happens. Millions to one chance. You should stop riding in cars also. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #13
Yeah they go all day with thousands of people on them Rex Jul 2013 #14
Its a personal choice. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #21
If "potentially endanger my life" means 500 million to 1 then OK. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #23
Yea. Its a possibility. Can you guarantee me i wont be that unlucky person? darkangel218 Jul 2013 #24
from wiki: darkangel218 Jul 2013 #27
LOL, give me drowning stats and bee sting stats. Then we will talk! Logical Jul 2013 #28
The stats of other types of accidents can not and will not invalidate darkangel218 Jul 2013 #29
Yes it does. "dangerous" is a relative term. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #30
No, it does not. nt darkangel218 Jul 2013 #32
A little more research and you would have your reasons..... Logical Jul 2013 #33
I still win, give it up. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #34
Here you go. Go away now.... Logical Jul 2013 #35
Go away? wow, nice style of debating darkangel218 Jul 2013 #36
LOL, next time you are in an argument, cutting one sentence from Wiki does not.... Logical Jul 2013 #37
Statistics dont lie. Rollercoaster accidents have happend and will continue happening. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #38
4 deaths a year with how many riding rollercoasters? Millions tammywammy Jul 2013 #40
And thousands more injured. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #41
You're most likely going to be hurt or injured at traveling carnival carnival rides tammywammy Jul 2013 #43
Perheps. or crossing the street. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #45
My sister lives with a neck injury from a roller coaster rainy Jul 2013 #68
Pretty high relative to? Still waiting. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #52
Relative to not getting on the ride. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #55
So is swimming. Do you swim? Smoke? n-t Logical Jul 2013 #56
Swimming is healthy. its a sport. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #58
Swimming is the same thing. Entertainment. Enjoyable. 3500.... Logical Jul 2013 #59
Swimming is not just enterteinment. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #60
Yes, the people flocking to the beach are there to do aerobics. But will you... Logical Jul 2013 #61
So swimming is not a sport, and has no other health benefits darkangel218 Jul 2013 #63
"Go away now"?? FU, in principle. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #47
Meh, he's upset. I must have hurt his feelings. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #51
You hurt my brain. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #53
Awww!! thats hard to believe, since youre the one who started this. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #57
Then for fuck's sake put her on Ignore TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #70
Because of course one's need of a car IS THE EQUIVALENT of one's need of a carney ride. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #46
Brown said the woman had expressed concern to a park employee ronnie624 Jul 2013 #6
Yep. Minimum wage employees given the task of keeping people alive Horse with no Name Jul 2013 #7
I don't think the article mentioned the employee's wage. ronnie624 Jul 2013 #8
I bet he heard 100 comments a day like that. I love the DU..... Logical Jul 2013 #12
Have to agree, the "eyewitness" is not credible Rstrstx Jul 2013 #17
Thanks for the great information. Math is hard for some people. n-t Logical Jul 2013 #18
So is Chaucer in the original. And BTW: Statistics are, frankly, irrelevant to the WinkyDink Jul 2013 #48
I also wondered how she could see anything. tammywammy Jul 2013 #19
You're right. I shouldn't have said it. ronnie624 Jul 2013 #69
I think the point is lack of oversight burnodo Jul 2013 #15
That is HORRIBLE!!! They need to change their regulations. tblue Jul 2013 #26
Plaintiff injury attorneys must be lining round the block for this one Brewinblue Jul 2013 #9
Just got home last night from Cedar Point. MuseRider Jul 2013 #10
Um, last night: Boat on Cedar Point ride rolls backward down hill; 7 hurt The Straight Story Jul 2013 #11
Well that just sucks but it has MuseRider Jul 2013 #16
My daughter told me that when she has gone on the Texas Giant Horse with no Name Jul 2013 #39
Agreed... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #42
Sitting for those seconds before MuseRider Jul 2013 #44
Just what I was thinking. Soundman Jul 2013 #65
Oh ho ho be very excited. MuseRider Jul 2013 #67
Second fatality since the park opened in 1961! FarCenter Jul 2013 #20
I've been going to that park for decades Major Nikon Jul 2013 #71
I used to avoid roller coasters like the plague. ananda Jul 2013 #22
Wooden coasters are real bone-shakers. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2013 #64
I worked at Kings Island, OHIO JesterCS Jul 2013 #25
Did they ever reopen the Son of Beast? B Calm Jul 2013 #49
And the message to the Arlington police officers investigating RB TexLa Jul 2013 #31
One time at Disneyland I was on the Matterhorn and some people near us said "we're not fastened in Raine Jul 2013 #50
Virtually the same thing happened to me years ago on the Demon at 6Flags Gurnee, WI. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2013 #66
Oh man, what a horrible way to die dgilmour32863 Jul 2013 #54
Question 90-percent Jul 2013 #62

Igel

(35,359 posts)
5. Most of them are designed so an unsecured bag of flour wouldn't be ejected.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 12:13 PM
Jul 2013

Every curve is matched by an inclined track with the height of the seat sufficient to keep you in.

This one might be different.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. Yeah they go all day with thousands of people on them
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 04:02 PM
Jul 2013

yet ONE person dies and it is all hair on fire. Funny that.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
21. Its a personal choice.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 04:50 PM
Jul 2013

I'm not going to potentially endanger my life just for a few minutes of adrenaline rush. Not my thing.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
24. Yea. Its a possibility. Can you guarantee me i wont be that unlucky person?
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 04:58 PM
Jul 2013

Like I said, its a personal choice. Or do you have something against that?

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
27. from wiki:
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jul 2013

2005
According to the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission:[10]

There were more than 15,000 amusement ride-related injuries in 2005 in the U.S.
2003
The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission reported the following in 2003:[11]

From 1987 to 2000, there were an estimated 4.5 amusement ride-related deaths per year.
There were 3 deaths in 2003, 2 deaths in 2002, and 3 deaths in 2001.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
29. The stats of other types of accidents can not and will not invalidate
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 05:38 PM
Jul 2013

..the simple fact that rollercoaster rides are still dangereus.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
35. Here you go. Go away now....
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 05:53 PM
Jul 2013

Most (18) from Medical Conditions. Which I assume you blame on the ride?
11 employees, which would not impact you! Here is one employee story "Fell from roller coaster catwalk; was intoxicated". Who do you blame for that?

Here are a couple more:
Ejected from ride after freeing himself from safety restraints
Hit by roller coaster while crossing track
Hit in head by roller coaster while trimming weeds under track
Struck in head by patron’s legs while in restricted area

Sorry, keep trying.

Results: Forty people, ranging in age from 7 to 77 years, were killed in 39 separate incidents. Twenty nine (73%) deaths occurred among roller coaster patrons. Eleven fatalities resulted from external causes related to injuries from falls or collisions. Eighteen people died from medical conditions that might have been caused or exacerbated by riding a roller coaster; 15 were the result of intracranial hemorrhages or cardiac problems. Eleven (28%) deaths involved employees; all were caused by injuries.

http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/11/5/309.abstract

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
37. LOL, next time you are in an argument, cutting one sentence from Wiki does not....
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 06:00 PM
Jul 2013

turn out well. Math is hard I am sure. Statistics also. Keep reading!


 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
38. Statistics dont lie. Rollercoaster accidents have happend and will continue happening.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 06:05 PM
Jul 2013

You can't deny that. 4 deaths / year in the US alone is a pretty high number.

You still lose.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
40. 4 deaths a year with how many riding rollercoasters? Millions
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 06:07 PM
Jul 2013

4 is really not a high number when you consider millions of people ride them.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
41. And thousands more injured.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 06:11 PM
Jul 2013

And any one if the "millions" riding could wind up part of this stat.

A few minutes of adrenaline rush is not worth losing your life for.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
43. You're most likely going to be hurt or injured at traveling carnival carnival rides
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 06:13 PM
Jul 2013

Than a theme park.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
45. Perheps. or crossing the street.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 06:22 PM
Jul 2013

Or eating popcorn. But that's not the point.

If you think a few minutes of excitementis worth your life , its your choice. 4 death a year are huge number, for something you don't have to do, but chose to do just to get a rush out of it.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
58. Swimming is healthy. its a sport.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 06:46 PM
Jul 2013

Can be dangerous, yes. But it provides more than just a hormone rush.

And no I don't smoke. You shouldn't either, if you do.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
59. Swimming is the same thing. Entertainment. Enjoyable. 3500....
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 06:49 PM
Jul 2013

deaths a year from drowning. I suggest you immediately stop.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
61. Yes, the people flocking to the beach are there to do aerobics. But will you...
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 07:07 PM
Jul 2013

now stop swimming?

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
63. So swimming is not a sport, and has no other health benefits
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 07:49 PM
Jul 2013

.. except entertainment??



Have a nice evening Logical!


 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
57. Awww!! thats hard to believe, since youre the one who started this.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 06:43 PM
Jul 2013

I was simply commenting on my choice.

But its okay, vent away. We all have bad days.


TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
70. Then for fuck's sake put her on Ignore
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 05:54 AM
Jul 2013

But nooooo, you had to go derail a thread about a terrible accident that killed a woman just because another member doesn't like roller coasters and thinks they aren't worth the danger. Well whoopdie fucking doo! What the hell do you care what she thinks? I don't like them either and don't think the danger of injury or having your stomach heave up is "fun" either. So sue me.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
6. Brown said the woman had expressed concern to a park employee
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 12:25 PM
Jul 2013

that she was not secured correctly in her seat.

“He was basically nonchalant,” Brown said. “He was, like, ‘As long as you heard it click, you’re fine.’ Hers was the only one that went down once, and she didn’t feel safe. But they let her still get on the ride.”

Fucking idiot.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
7. Yep. Minimum wage employees given the task of keeping people alive
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 12:27 PM
Jul 2013

You don't care much about them but you expect them to keep your customers safe?

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
8. I don't think the article mentioned the employee's wage.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 12:36 PM
Jul 2013

I think he should have taken his job of making certain everyone was secure, more seriously.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
12. I bet he heard 100 comments a day like that. I love the DU.....
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 03:59 PM
Jul 2013

You call a person you do not know and based on a half-ass news story a "fucking idiot". LOL, typical of the I am perfect crowd.

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
17. Have to agree, the "eyewitness" is not credible
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 04:25 PM
Jul 2013

She told the press that her restraint only made one "click" while everyone else's made 3. This is a complete lie since the ride in question does not use a ratcheting type system to secure people in, it uses a hydraulic system which is silent. She also said she saw her fall off the ride while waiting in line. The area where they recovered the body is not visible from the station. She's full of it. Funny how nobody else came forward to corroborate up her story yet it's spread like wildfire and accepted as gospel.

And by the way the odds of a coaster fatality that is not the fault of the rider is about one a half billion to one. From the scant news we know so far that may well be what happened, as unlikely as it is. But the ridiculous anecdotes about how such-and-such a ride is unsafe are just that.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
48. So is Chaucer in the original. And BTW: Statistics are, frankly, irrelevant to the
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 06:26 PM
Jul 2013

HORROR of this story, just like they are irrelevant to stories of death-by-shark.
http://news.sky.com/story/1116058/shark-attack-teenage-girl-killed-off-reunion

But then, human reactions are hard for some people.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
19. I also wondered how she could see anything.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 04:35 PM
Jul 2013

When you're in the Texas Giant station you can't see the ride.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
69. You're right. I shouldn't have said it.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 01:20 AM
Jul 2013

I was taken by the horror of the story.

Personal attacks against me are unnecessary, however. I can be compelled by sound logic.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
26. That is HORRIBLE!!! They need to change their regulations.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 05:21 PM
Jul 2013

If someone states they don't feel secure, move them to another car. How difficult would that be?

Brewinblue

(392 posts)
9. Plaintiff injury attorneys must be lining round the block for this one
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 12:42 PM
Jul 2013

The park employee's apparent level of negligence is astounding. The settlement will be quick and enormous!

MuseRider

(34,120 posts)
10. Just got home last night from Cedar Point.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 03:37 PM
Jul 2013

We were never on a ride that was not physically checked, we were always asked and then they pulled on the belts several times. Their mechanisms were to the point of discomfort if you are smaller like I am, they tighten up and hold you so tight it is uncomfortable. Wow, never did one of the kids running those rides shirk that check. They were obviously bored and hot but they did it. And they worked as a team with no less than 6 on the really extreme rides.

This is sad and scary. They need to be sued to the point of paying those kids well and making sure they had a team for reinforcement.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
11. Um, last night: Boat on Cedar Point ride rolls backward down hill; 7 hurt
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 03:55 PM
Jul 2013

SANDUSKY, OHIO — A boat on a thrill ride at an amusement park that bills itself as the best in the world accidentally rolled backward down a hill and flipped over in water when the ride malfunctioned Friday, injuring all seven people on it.

Operators stopped the Shoot the Rapids water ride after the accident, which occurred on the ride's first hill, the Cedar Point amusement park said. Park police officers, medical technicians, ride operators and park visitors waded into the water and helped the passengers off the boat.

Cedar Point officials wouldn't say how the boat landed after rolling downhill. But witnesses told the Sandusky Register newspaper the boat flipped on its side or upside down.

Matthew Orr, of Euclid, was at the park and said people were belted into the boat and were trapped.

http://www.freep.com/article/20130720/FEATURES07/307200052/Cedar-Point-ride-rolls-backward-down-hill-7-hurt

MuseRider

(34,120 posts)
16. Well that just sucks but it has
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 04:23 PM
Jul 2013

nothing to do with someone not checking riders being securely seated. That was what I was addressing and I think the point of the article.

Mechanical malfunctions are different but are horrible. Top Thrill Dragster was shut down a good part of the 2 days we were there, they seemed pretty cautious but perhaps not. I hope the injured are OK. WOW.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
39. My daughter told me that when she has gone on the Texas Giant
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 06:07 PM
Jul 2013

that two different people usually came by and checked it.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
42. Agreed...
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 06:12 PM
Jul 2013

Amusement parks around where I live always seem to have separate "help everybody strap in+check" and "manually double-check the restraints before releasing the ride" -phases...

And even after that I personally check how secure it is...

MuseRider

(34,120 posts)
44. Sitting for those seconds before
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 06:21 PM
Jul 2013

the Top Thrill Dragster took off I spent making certain I was buckled in. It would not have mattered, it took about 30 minutes for my brain to comprehend what it had just experienced. Our first ride in the park, blew my mind right up. If it had launched me or slammed me face first into the dirt I would never had known.

 

Soundman

(297 posts)
65. Just what I was thinking.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:55 PM
Jul 2013

We go to Cedar Point Every year and I have never not had a good tug or pull to check the safety restraint. Kind of exited to try out the gate keeper next month.

MuseRider

(34,120 posts)
67. Oh ho ho be very excited.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:28 PM
Jul 2013

I doubt we will ever be back there so I bought the Fast Lane Plus. The first day we rode it about 3 or 4 times. I was not crazy about it, the harness would ratchet so tightly that as we waited to get off I could hardly breathe. The second day I figured it out, I just had to push out on it to keep that from happening then I really enjoyed the ride. We prefered the left side, especially in the front car but both were fantastic. Still, my overwhelming favorite was Millenium Force. That first drop is to die for. We had enough fun to consider the 14 hour drive again some year soon before we are too old or our already getting old sons get paired up and we can't afford it

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
20. Second fatality since the park opened in 1961!
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 04:45 PM
Jul 2013
Friday’s accident was the second ride fatality for a guest at the park since it opened in 1961.

In 1999, Valeria Cartwright of West Helena, Ark., drowned when a Roaring Rapids raft capsized. Ten other people were injured in that accident.

In March 2006, passengers on the park’s Texas Tornado ride reported injuries when the ride slowed rapidly and several of its swings collided.

In another amusement park accident Friday, a boat on a thrill ride at Cedar Point in Sandusky, Ohio, rolled backward down a hill and flipped over in water when the ride malfunctioned, injuring all seven people on it.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
71. I've been going to that park for decades
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:04 AM
Jul 2013

The people they have running the rides are either very young or look as if they have made some bad choices in their lives. I can't think of any I would trust to make sure I was strapped in properly. I'm surprised they don't have more accidents than they do.

ananda

(28,876 posts)
22. I used to avoid roller coasters like the plague.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 04:50 PM
Jul 2013

Then one time in my late forties I rode the Texas Cyclone at Astroworld,
and it was extremely unpleasant. So that is the only time I ever rode on
a big roller coaster. I never rode Greased Lightning either. But I liked
the smaller twisty turny kinds and other kinds of rides.

Still, I think the coasters are safe for the most part. There have been
accidents over the years, but not that many I don't think.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
64. Wooden coasters are real bone-shakers.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 07:55 PM
Jul 2013

I rode the Texas Cyclone at Astroworld and was sore for two days.

Astroworld had a bunch of steel coasters that were fun and a lot smoother. I don't know why they shut the place down. Maybe too much competition from Fiesta Texas in San Antonio??

JesterCS

(1,827 posts)
25. I worked at Kings Island, OHIO
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 05:16 PM
Jul 2013

for 2 summers. I got to see all the behind the scenes work and such that went on. I Would get in at 7am, and there were already mechanics walking the tracks of coasters checking everything. Park didnt open til 10.

Its pretty safe. Kings Island has had its share of deaths too. Though the ride/s in question no longer exist.

 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
31. And the message to the Arlington police officers investigating
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 05:41 PM
Jul 2013

"Be sure to conduct a through investigation, we wouldn't want anything missed when something involves one of the biggest creators of revenue for the city of Arlington and our department."

Raine

(30,540 posts)
50. One time at Disneyland I was on the Matterhorn and some people near us said "we're not fastened in
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 06:32 PM
Jul 2013

right". The workers didn't hear them and were ready to start the ride and they kept trying to tell them they weren't fastened securely. My boyfriend and I started screaming really loud "THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T FASTENED, FASTEN THEM IN"!!! Finally they heard us all and came over and got them fastened securely, sure was an eye opener to me that you have to really check and then really YELL!

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
66. Virtually the same thing happened to me years ago on the Demon at 6Flags Gurnee, WI.
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:04 PM
Jul 2013

Only we headed well up the first rise before they stopped us. We sat there for 20-30 minutes while the technicians came and secured the kid that was loose.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
62. Question
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jul 2013

What additional Constitutional Rights do we have to give back to our on government to keep roller coasters 100% safe?

4 deaths per year is 4 too many for this patriotic DU poster!

-90% Jimmy

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