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Roy Rolling

(6,941 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 09:19 PM Jul 2013

Where have all the flower (children) gone?

I guess I'm showing my age, but I don't hear the level of social protest songs and strong personalities like there were in the'60s. Maybe they're out there, but when civil rights, corporate greed, and the Vietnam War were hot-button issues, there were counter-culture icons like John Lennon, Abbie Hoffman, Bob Dylan, The Smothers Brothers, Etc., who were willing to challenge the corporate-owned media even if it meant risking their livelihood.

Like I said, getting old is a bitch---maybe they're out there but I still immerse myself in the protest culture almost a half-century old.

C'mon people, prove me wrong and "stick it to the man" once mo' time.

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Where have all the flower (children) gone? (Original Post) Roy Rolling Jul 2013 OP
Ask Mr. Natural! He knows everything. postulater Jul 2013 #1
And don't forget: Rhiannon12866 Jul 2013 #2
Icons of my childhood. LWolf Jul 2013 #28
Mine, too. Rhiannon12866 Jul 2013 #38
My remembrance when Travers passed: LWolf Jul 2013 #40
Thank you! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2013 #41
Didn't they become Reagan Democrats/neo cons/libertarians? alp227 Jul 2013 #3
Um, no. Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #4
Isn't Mike Malloy a Republican? Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #5
Isn't Mike Malloy a Republican? dusty trails Jul 2013 #6
No, I am here and I am to the left of most of this board. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #16
blame it on needing a paycheck datasuspect Jul 2013 #31
I think they became the "me" generation....looking out for number one. shraby Jul 2013 #7
BS pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #8
Yuppies loyalsister Jul 2013 #9
No they didn't. That was merely the right wing meme that you swallowed hook line and sinker. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #20
They became? burnodo Jul 2013 #22
I don't know where you guys get this idea. Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #42
Well, sort of. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #10
Busy, trying to stay alive, TheJames Jul 2013 #11
Welcome to DU, TheJames! calimary Jul 2013 #17
+ 1 ^ yesphan Jul 2013 #27
Greetings! PasadenaTrudy Jul 2013 #34
Right on! calimary Jul 2013 #37
Me too. Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #43
I believe one reason is really simple The Straight Story Jul 2013 #12
Not usually on television or radio except as caricatures. hunter Jul 2013 #13
45 years later RobertEarl Jul 2013 #14
Did someone say protest songs? Zorra Jul 2013 #15
I think Niel Young wrote a song about it Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #18
Nice song. Enthusiast Jul 2013 #21
Still marching burrowowl Jul 2013 #19
Occupy Wall Street B Calm Jul 2013 #23
If it's too loud, you're too old Recursion Jul 2013 #24
Fat Freddy's Cat says that they're still MineralMan Jul 2013 #25
Freak Brothers! PasadenaTrudy Jul 2013 #35
Yup. I have complete sets of all of them, MineralMan Jul 2013 #36
Card-carrying freak here. riqster Jul 2013 #26
they started having kids in the early/mid 70s datasuspect Jul 2013 #29
They got PS3 snooper2 Jul 2013 #30
We grew up. UTUSN Jul 2013 #32
Not me. I never grew up. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2013 #33
Today they are doting grand parents.eom Cleita Jul 2013 #39
Trying to keep the grandchildren's minds open. Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #45
I sorely miss those times. PlanetBev Jul 2013 #44
They were fringe. Isn't that the truth. We used to laugh Cleita Jul 2013 #46
Five movements cames together in a Perfect Storm of the 60s: PufPuf23 Jul 2013 #47
... Scuba Jul 2013 #48

Rhiannon12866

(206,187 posts)
38. Mine, too.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:53 PM
Jul 2013

My mother saw them at their peak and I finally saw them on a reunion tour in the '80s. I also grew up on their music...

Rhiannon12866

(206,187 posts)
41. Thank you!
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 02:41 PM
Jul 2013

I seem to have missed that post. I was very sad, since I knew there wouldn't be another reunion. She was amazing...

alp227

(32,064 posts)
3. Didn't they become Reagan Democrats/neo cons/libertarians?
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 09:46 PM
Jul 2013


blame a right turn in the nation, apathy, authoritarianism, corporatism instead?

dusty trails

(174 posts)
6. Isn't Mike Malloy a Republican?
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 10:26 PM
Jul 2013

"Politically, he describes himself as "a traditional Liberal Democrat
doing his part to return the Democratic Party to its Liberal roots."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Malloy

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
8. BS
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 10:53 PM
Jul 2013

It was a very large gerneration comprising a lot of differing political views.

But you can find plenty of gray-haired '60s protest veterans on the front lines of Occupy today--including many here at DU.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
9. Yuppies
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 11:05 PM
Jul 2013

"out on the road today I saw a dead head sticker on a Cadillac" - Boys of Summer by Don Henley

Farm Aid performance



BTW Ann Coulter is a dead head.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
20. No they didn't. That was merely the right wing meme that you swallowed hook line and sinker.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:45 AM
Jul 2013

That is all.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
42. I don't know where you guys get this idea.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 02:43 PM
Jul 2013

No one I knew who was part of that movement became a Reagan supporter. That sounds like some kind of propaganda to me.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
10. Well, sort of.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 12:28 AM
Jul 2013

This one has been around a while, but it's certainly way past the flower children era (1992). It sort of fits with the theme of the troubles with NSA lately. The songwriter is British.




And this song is American but the video isn't. It was by friends of a Libyan journalist (Mo Nabbous) who was killed reporting on the fight for independence there; the clips are all pieces of film from the reporting during that time. I just think it's very inspiring.

calimary

(81,521 posts)
17. Welcome to DU, TheJames!
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:40 AM
Jul 2013

Good to have you with us! Little ol' hippie chick here. My hair's still free and wild, but it's gone from dark brown to white. Still believe in beads and flowers and incense and Mother Nature. Still rockin' out and hanging with musicians and creative free-spirit types like my guy. Annoying people here on DU! One of my best friends has multi-color hair over her grays. She looks like an Earth Goddess! My best friend still embroiders her jeans! Life is good! Just can't run on fumes like I used to.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
12. I believe one reason is really simple
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 12:59 AM
Jul 2013

We have so much communication now we organize/talk to each other in different and broader ways.

Take twitter for example, you can get a slew of people all discussing the same thing instantly. Here on DU we can 'meet up' with many others in an instant and pass along ideas/beliefs/etc.

If you look back then (and even now) there were always two sides to an issue and each side used some form of media to try to get those who had not fully made up their mind to see things their way (or to change a mind).

As far as music, there are a ton more places to get it than a few radio stations and records outlets.

We have more active people now we just don't take to the streets - but are still effective. A twitter campaign here, emailing, blogging, etc there, and so on. We no longer depend on the few who control the media dictating what is covered (and I post more news stories a day here and at reddit than the networks cover in a week).

More media and choices means less focus for the masses on one or two events - we still get attention to causes but in differing ways.

hunter

(38,334 posts)
13. Not usually on television or radio except as caricatures.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:07 AM
Jul 2013

Therefore we don't exist.

Manipulation of the national media by large corporate powers has become very sophisticated.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
14. 45 years later
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:14 AM
Jul 2013

Know what, man? You can't go home, man.
It's over. Ain't coming back.

Those were the good old days.

The one's who are living the dream ain't on DU. They ain't nowhere to be found. Not unless you get off the roads and wander back into the woods.

They dropped out.

They rest of us? Well, we were gonna change the world, and we did. For the worse. We burned the gas, we plugged into the coal, we built our mansions.

AND GOT A JOB!

We cut our hair, snapped on the tie and got a shoeshine. We bought in to the system.

We became the cogs that the machine runs on. True, some cogs are better than others, but cogs we all became. And the machine, man? It has to keep moving, man. It has to get bigger, stronger, faster. More powerful. If it doesn't it will die. Every time it slows down, the country gets the flu, attacks other countries and generally just gets diarrhea.

But they got a soap for that. And hair cream, and shaving tools. Dude! Nearly everyone shaves!

One circle has come around, tho. If you don't have a script and the dealers to fill that script, life is over, man.

It's been fun, and it's been real. It just hasn't been real fun.

You just can't go home. Keep on trucking!

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
15. Did someone say protest songs?
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:20 AM
Jul 2013

The first three are original protest songs. The last two here are covers of a couple old protest songs you'll probably recognize..

Thanks for asking.










MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
36. Yup. I have complete sets of all of them,
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 11:15 AM
Jul 2013

purchased when they were first published. They're almost all still in print, too, and new copies can be purchased. That's disappointing, in a way, since I thought I might make a buck or two selling my "priceless" collection. Turns out that they are "priceless," in the sense that they aren't worth anything.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,874 posts)
33. Not me. I never grew up.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 11:00 AM
Jul 2013

I'm still a hippy living in a little house. It's still a good way to live. I don't have much in the way of possessions but i never did want a bunch of stuff. Don't have a TV or a computer (I use the library). Am a vegetarian. It's quiet and it's peaceful here.

I still pay attention to what's going on but I don't know what to do about it. I've seen so much of it come and go. None of this stuff is new.

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
44. I sorely miss those times.
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 02:47 PM
Jul 2013

At 62, watching the ascendancy of the Right has been torture for me. These people were on the fringe when I was coming up, now they've been mainstreamed.

Someday, sanity will reign again, but not until the damage done by the Right is complete. By then, the US will be completely unrecognizable.

PufPuf23

(8,842 posts)
47. Five movements cames together in a Perfect Storm of the 60s:
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 03:18 PM
Jul 2013

1 Anti-war

2. Desegregation

3. Free speech

4. Sexual expression

5. Peace and love (flower children).

Plus we had the best music ever; the mixing of cultures and voices was important.

There was much overlap between the movements.

Universities especially were public, were cheap and hotbeds of thought and protest.

There were religious leaders (like MLK, the Berrigans, Bishop Pike, Catholic liberation theology, rebirth of American paganism, rebirth of American Indian religions) allied with the major movements.

I spent the late 66-79s bouncing between Berkeley, San Francisco, and Marin for high school. work, and university and my rural and Indian country Humboldt county home.

My parents did not understand me. I quit hunting age 17. Smoked tobacco a handful of times and never since my teens but learned to like P** age 13.

The arts flourished and the mixing of cultures were syncretic (this happened in religion and life philosophy as well).

Heaven or hell, still proud to be a liberal.

Sadly disappointed in what happened to the USA, World, and our communities, especially post the so-called "Reagan Revolution".

My experience of the present USA is a much meaner and heartless society.

Technology does not always work for good but human understanding of the natural world is always positive.

I did not expect today's world back in the 60s and 70s.

Where have all the flowers gone?





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