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live love laugh

(13,124 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:38 PM Jul 2013

This is s-s-s-cary

I don't think I have ever seen a weather map where every city in the entire country was red like this--and this is an improvement from earlier in the week when there was no orange at all.

I know it's July but this is not normal--or maybe it is...the new normal. Either way it's bad.


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This is s-s-s-cary (Original Post) live love laugh Jul 2013 OP
Surprisingly FL is not that hot. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #1
Rather mild---all the rain cooling us off... trumad Jul 2013 #10
I lived in Miami most of my life. RebelOne Jul 2013 #14
And here in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles we are having ANOTHER kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #21
SoCal has already broken some heat records this year pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #23
When we have a hot day in the west SFV now, you can't lean up against anything. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #24
I hear you! I remember it well! pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #27
It got up to 85 up here today... {{{{SWELTERING}}}} cherokeeprogressive Jul 2013 #36
You mountainfolk always have to rub it in :) pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #41
It can't be hot while it is actually raining. nt morningglory Jul 2013 #35
We have had a very mild summer in DFW. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #49
104 here today in So. NV. premium Jul 2013 #2
OMG SUMMER. Brickbat Jul 2013 #3
I expected your response--this map was the closest I could find to the one I saw on the news earlier live love laugh Jul 2013 #7
There being one high pressure system over most of the country is abnormal starroute Jul 2013 #28
Scary? For a second there I had palpitations when I didn't see any blue states! pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #4
LOL! calimary Jul 2013 #6
lol. nt live love laugh Jul 2013 #12
DUzy - you're too good malaise Jul 2013 #13
It was an "Elizabeth, I'm coming to join you" moment pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #22
Bwaaaaaaaah malaise Jul 2013 #25
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times... JNelson6563 Jul 2013 #34
It was the worst of times, it was...the worst of times pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #38
But... but.. global warming / climate change / whatever the term is, is a myth! Initech Jul 2013 #5
so does everyone does realize this is just the beginning of it, right? limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #8
I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area lunatica Jul 2013 #9
The coldest winter I ever spent thelordofhell Jul 2013 #26
We've had mild summers for the last few years Ratty Jul 2013 #43
Well this was June 2013 - the globe's 5th warmest June since records began in 1880 malaise Jul 2013 #11
Wow. "...the 340th consecutive month with global temperatures warmer than the 20th century avg." live love laugh Jul 2013 #15
Check out the Burt link as well malaise Jul 2013 #16
Floods, tsunamis, fires...worldwide. I didn't even know about a lot of these. live love laugh Jul 2013 #17
Heaven? malaise Jul 2013 #18
ROMNEY WON!!! See!!!!! underpants Jul 2013 #19
It's been cool and comfy here in the high desert Warpy Jul 2013 #20
No rain, perfect temps here in the PNW for the past 2 months. ErikJ Jul 2013 #29
Oregon coast - mid 60's. Shrike47 Jul 2013 #30
I'm smack in the middle of the r-r-r-ed area. ReRe Jul 2013 #31
Record LOW temps in West Arkansas last week. bvar22 Jul 2013 #32
Don't forget the winter tornadoes Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #33
Yes...the East to West is realtively New... KoKo Jul 2013 #42
"...the Jet Stream has Changed and that's why we are getting the East to West." live love laugh Jul 2013 #54
98 in Philly ... worse tomorrow nt PCIntern Jul 2013 #37
It has been a long time since Winter asjr Jul 2013 #39
yes! +1...Depending on ones age...to have observed..what you say is true KoKo Jul 2013 #44
Yup. Too true Ratty Jul 2013 #46
94 here. JoeyT Jul 2013 #40
I set my A/C for 87 pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #47
Meanwhile in Puerto Rico today malaise Jul 2013 #50
Thanks for the news pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #52
It's chilly here in San Francisco kimbutgar Jul 2013 #45
Been average or below average for Houston for most of July. Igel Jul 2013 #48
It has been in the lower nineties in Indy this week. Brigid Jul 2013 #51
I want my climate back BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #53

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
14. I lived in Miami most of my life.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:56 PM
Jul 2013

It may get hot and humid, but at least there are sea breezes to help cool it off. I now live in the Atlanta, Georgia, area. In the hot days of summer, there are no breezes, just still hot air. People complain about the humidity here in the summer, but I don't find it that bad as compared with South Florida humidity.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
21. And here in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles we are having ANOTHER
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:30 PM
Jul 2013

weirdly mild summer so far.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
23. SoCal has already broken some heat records this year
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:54 PM
Jul 2013

It's more normal at the moment (currently 104 here in the Antelope Valley), but we had some early heat waves and more are expected.

I grew up in the SFV, and I remember the hot days as the ones where my buddies and I would be sitting in my backyard, leaning against the block wall, repeating the same old hot-day conversation: "What do you wanna do?" "I dunno, what do you wanna do?" "I dunno, what do you wanna do?" ...


 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
24. When we have a hot day in the west SFV now, you can't lean up against anything.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:09 PM
Jul 2013

You'll get 3rd degree burns.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
27. I hear you! I remember it well!
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:32 PM
Jul 2013

We sat on the shady side of the wall, but the heat was enervating. And with no A/C, it was just as bad indoors. If we were lucky, one of the neighborhood parents would throw us in the car and take us to Crystal Plunge, a small public swimming pool in Panorama City. I have to say, though, that the hi dez is even worse!

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
36. It got up to 85 up here today... {{{{SWELTERING}}}}
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:04 PM
Jul 2013

I'll be glad when that damn fire in Idylwild is out... it was SMOKEY up here today.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
41. You mountainfolk always have to rub it in :)
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:18 PM
Jul 2013

Our 105 today was fairly seasonable for the L.A. County hi dez.

I know that fire is not far from you, and a 35 square mile burn area with 6,000 evacuated is pretty big. I hope they're getting a handle on it.

The Powerhouse fire gave us all the smoke I want to eat for this year...but the fire season started very early, and we know there's more to come for the Southwest.

Stay safe up there!

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
2. 104 here today in So. NV.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:41 PM
Jul 2013

quite normal for this time of year, in fact, we're a couple of degrees below normal.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
3. OMG SUMMER.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:44 PM
Jul 2013

That map is difficult to read and looks alarming because of the range at the bottom. If the map listed only colors for 60-110, and used a dozen gradations of color instead of 50, it would look very different -- dare I say, normal.

live love laugh

(13,124 posts)
7. I expected your response--this map was the closest I could find to the one I saw on the news earlier
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:47 PM
Jul 2013

this week which was all red, no gradations.

The weatherman said the entire country was/is under a dome of stagnant, hot air.

That did not/does not seem normal.

But you're right--it is summer.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
28. There being one high pressure system over most of the country is abnormal
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jul 2013

Usually a series of highs and lows follows one another. But I saw something on Weather Underground a few days ago saying there were just two huge highs with a tiny trough of low pressure between them -- and that the two highs were already starting to merge at the northern end.

I'll see if I can find it again.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
4. Scary? For a second there I had palpitations when I didn't see any blue states!
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:45 PM
Jul 2013

When I saw 'weather map' I started to relax...but then that just made me scared all over again. Thanks a lot!

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
38. It was the worst of times, it was...the worst of times
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:06 PM
Jul 2013

Out of the frying pan, into the fire...perhaps literally.

Elizabeth, I'm coming to join you...

Initech

(100,097 posts)
5. But... but.. global warming / climate change / whatever the term is, is a myth!
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:46 PM
Jul 2013

At least that's what the Heritage Foundation would have you believe.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
9. I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:49 PM
Jul 2013

It looks like one of the cooler places. That off shore wind keeps us very cool. Thank God! I'm not good in hot weather.

Ratty

(2,100 posts)
43. We've had mild summers for the last few years
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:23 PM
Jul 2013

Like you I REALLY hate hot weather so I'm cool with it (though I haven't had a good crop of tomatoes in a while). Used to be we'd have maybe three or four weeks total of blistering hot heat throughout the summer. But for the past few years we've had maybe one week of really hot weather the whole summer long, if that. We had, what, 3 days of heat about a month ago?

malaise

(269,144 posts)
11. Well this was June 2013 - the globe's 5th warmest June since records began in 1880
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:50 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2467
<snip>
June 2013 was the globe's 5th warmest June since records began in 1880, according to NOAA's National Climatic Data Center (NCDC). NASA rated it the 2nd warmest June on record. The year-to-date period of January - June has been the 7th warmest such period on record. June 2013 global land temperatures were the 3rd warmest on record, and global ocean temperatures were the 10th warmest on record. June 2013 was the 340th consecutive month with global temperatures warmer than the 20th century average. Global satellite-measured temperatures in June 2013 for the lowest 8 km of the atmosphere were 5th or 4th warmest in the 35-year record, according to Remote Sensing Systems and the University of Alabama Huntsville (UAH), respectively. Wunderground's weather historian, Christopher C. Burt, has a comprehensive post on the notable weather events of June 2013 in his June 2013 Global Weather Extremes Summary.

live love laugh

(13,124 posts)
15. Wow. "...the 340th consecutive month with global temperatures warmer than the 20th century avg."
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:01 PM
Jul 2013

It's not "just hot" or "just summer" as I'm sure you are aware.

Thanks for the factual info.

live love laugh

(13,124 posts)
17. Floods, tsunamis, fires...worldwide. I didn't even know about a lot of these.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:07 PM
Jul 2013

Again thanks and heaven help us all.

Warpy

(111,319 posts)
20. It's been cool and comfy here in the high desert
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 06:16 PM
Jul 2013

for over a week now, northerly winds bringing us moisture and cooler air. The monsoonal flow has been cut off completely by this weather pattern but the rain 8 days out of 10 has been welcome in the parched high desert.

The pattern is supposed to start breaking down tomorrow and we'll be back to baking in a dry oven. For today, the clouds have started rolling in and the sun has gone away for the balance of the evening.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
29. No rain, perfect temps here in the PNW for the past 2 months.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:36 PM
Jul 2013

Except for 2 days of near 100 degrees. Heaven on earth.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
31. I'm smack in the middle of the r-r-r-ed area.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:51 PM
Jul 2013

So far, the electricity has held. I don't go out until after dark, when it's only 80 degrees.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
32. Record LOW temps in West Arkansas last week.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:51 PM
Jul 2013

Don't want to sound like I'm gloating, but this has been a BIZARRE Spring/Summer here.
First EVER snowfall in May.

We set RECORD LOW temps last week.
We have been able to sleep without A/C almost every night this July.
Daytime temps are hot in the afternoon this week, approaching 100,
but NOT the 110+ we have seen almost every July day for the last 3 years.

We have NEVER been able to sleep without A/C in July for the 8 years we have been here,
AND
it is now RAINING, ending a 1 month dry spell.

BUT the bizarre thing is that the rain/Thunderstorms have been moving from EAST to WEST.
That almost NEVER happens in this part of the country.
Anybody who has ever watched Storm Chasers KNOWS that the Summer pattern for storms
is West to East.

We had to research this afternoon to see if it is possible to have a Tornado move from East to West,
and it IS possible, but very rare.

Its crazy,
but we'll take the cool nights,
especially after the last 3 years of DROUGHT/ HEAT HELL.

Our Veggies and Melons are REALLY loving it.

Forecast LOW tonight 68F.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
33. Don't forget the winter tornadoes
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:01 PM
Jul 2013

Although March and April have traditionally been worst months for tornadoes in Arkansas, Northwest Arkansas has recently been having tornadoes in December/January, including the New Year's Eve tornado that damaged a good part of Cincinnati (Washington County). And a few years ago, there was a big snow in NWArk on Halloween. These kinds of weather events never happened while I was growing up there.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
42. Yes...the East to West is realtively New...
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:20 PM
Jul 2013

If you are over 50...you might know how true that has been. And that "strange" disturbance "Off the NC Coast" for the last two years...(no one says more than that)...but, I'm a Weather Underground Fan...and Dr. Jeff Masters has pointed out that the Jet Stream has Changed and that's why we are getting the East to West.

Glad to see someone else post about that who has observed and knows how odd an occurrence that is.

live love laugh

(13,124 posts)
54. "...the Jet Stream has Changed and that's why we are getting the East to West."
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 10:03 AM
Jul 2013

It's always been west to east--you could count on that.

You don't know what to expect with this change which is even scarier.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
39. It has been a long time since Winter
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:14 PM
Jul 2013

was winter, Spring was spring, Summer was summer and Fall was fall. And you could tell the difference.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
44. yes! +1...Depending on ones age...to have observed..what you say is true
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:23 PM
Jul 2013

for those of us who've been around awhile.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
40. 94 here.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:16 PM
Jul 2013

And going on our 4th week of rain every single day, so 78% humidity, expected to top 85% tonight.

I'm giving serious consideration to breaking my "No air conditioner" rule and justifying it by claiming it's necessary for my computer.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
47. I set my A/C for 87
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:32 PM
Jul 2013

But usually end up re-setting it to 85-86. Only out of concern for the computer, of course.

Okay, I'll admit it--I'm a wimp!

malaise

(269,144 posts)
50. Meanwhile in Puerto Rico today
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 09:50 PM
Jul 2013

The NWS of San Juan just informed more rainfall than the 8.43 inches originally reported and the new rainfall total is a historic record rainfall of 9.11 inches that fell before 5 PM EDT. This ranks as the second biggest total for one day in San Juan,more than when Hurricane Hugo moved thru.

From the Jeff Masters Comments page at Weather Underground - and it's still raining in Puerto Rico

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
52. Thanks for the news
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 10:02 PM
Jul 2013

I hadn't seen anything about that yet. I hope that doesn't mean flooding putting people at risk.

I've never been there, but just the mention makes me think of Rita Moreno in my favorite musical...


kimbutgar

(21,174 posts)
45. It's chilly here in San Francisco
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:24 PM
Jul 2013

So chilly I'm wearing a sweatshirt to keep warm instead of turning on the heater.

That said we've had unseasonable warm weather last week that was out of the ordinary.

Anyone who says the planet's not warming is ignorant or propagandized. Increased flooding, heat waves,unseasonable weather and excessive heat and wild fires shame on you for your denial.

Igel

(35,337 posts)
48. Been average or below average for Houston for most of July.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 09:08 PM
Jul 2013

End of June and the first few days were scorchers. Then it backed off.

The west Oregon temps seem within normal. The coast might be a bit warmer, but that can vary a bit. After all, it's mid July.

You're complainting that the temperatures aren't in the 60s. I suspect that in some places they might be, but they don't show up. High up in the Rockies, for instance.

A record average might be that there are a really high temperatures or just that lots of places are at the high end of normal all at the same time.

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